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gbghg
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Posted - 2013.03.10 15:39:00 -
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So once a week I have to put over 3mil sp back into the same skills, and I have to do this every week until release? no thank you |
gbghg
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Posted - 2013.03.10 17:53:00 -
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Soozu wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:This game, as part of the eve universe, is supposed to be hard. There is no reset button and your mistakes will have consequences. Deal with it and give up on your help me I made a mistake and need a hug from my momma ways. Repent! REPENT!! RE-PE-NT!!! BETA BETA BETA Actually, there is very little I would change in my own builds long term, but I would however thoroughly enjoy a week or so as a dropship captain will full mods or other builds during the BETA as something to do other than grind away. I am not at all surprised by the negative responses from this crowd which despite some great people... is full of elitist trollish type internet QQ OP "momma" scrub speakers unable to reply with a meaningful response. I enjoy this game, but will not wave the DUST IS GREAT NOTHING NEEDS TO CHANGE JUST WAIT WAIT WAIT crowd. Right now it's a lobby shooter and very has little to offer people but despite that, it's being advertised as just about finished. Playing around with different builds during the BETA, might be fun and enticing to people who they are sure to lose otherwise. Like it or not there WILL be a reset and I did include the option to opt out of resets. So I guess we can assume each no, is a selfish one. Soozu
There's nothing to stop you skilling into dropship's or something else right now. The main reason a lot of us dislike ideas like this is that it'll end up with everything being flavour of the week. If you want to be a dropship pilot you should invest time, isk, and sp into learning to fly one and properly fit it, if we go with a system like your's while it would provide a little variety it would devalue the worth of the sp system and the profession you find within it. Besides if we did this we would just end up with loads of poorly fitted tanks everywhere and that would be annoying. |
gbghg
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Posted - 2013.03.10 19:40:00 -
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Soozu wrote:A few good responses now so thank you. However, most seem to ignore all the points I made and simply say this is not the EVE way or have noted the fact I suggest this during BETA, and not long term. Suggesting if I want to try being a dropship pilot by putting in the skillpoints for it... well that doesn't go with the EVE way at all of picking a setup and sticking with it.
I say let's face facts, DUST 514 is not EVE, DUST is trying to appeal to a different crowd, but the game ain't ready. Refunding the SP is a temporary fix to a big problem, DUST lacks content and this would give people something to play with while we wait.
As far as saying a refund on SP for sure won't happen, I'm just going with what the Devs have said they're considering / planning and what people are sure to demand when all the new race goodies and gear come out.
There is a clear difference between people in game, and the hardcore [EVE] people who spend time on these forums. People I've spoken to in game all want to see this. Most are not EVE players, they didn't have the advantage of understanding the menu's modules and skill point system that most forum users seem to. [--> Read as overly confusing.] They want this and seeing as how the game is still in BETA open or closed, they're the majority and I think should get it. After all, they're playing catch up and it's not EVE players who will make DUST 514 a success.
You shouldn't generalise not all of us are eve players, there are more than a few regulars on this forum who just came straight into dust, all of us ****** up our sp allocation at some point. I screwed mine up when I started playing the beta again after it moved to tranquillity, in fact I messed it up so bad I restarted on this character. So I understand where you guys are coming from when you complain and the game does do a poor job of explaining things, but you guys have always had the option to ask for help before you spend any single sp points, it falls to us the players to help new players understand what to do. Besides i believe there's a saying in eve "there is no wasted sp" chances are your probably going to end up using those skills at some point. |
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Posted - 2013.03.10 20:37:00 -
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Soozu wrote:gbghg wrote:Soozu wrote:A few good responses now so thank you. However, most seem to ignore all the points I made and simply say this is not the EVE way or have noted the fact I suggest this during BETA, and not long term. Suggesting if I want to try being a dropship pilot by putting in the skillpoints for it... well that doesn't go with the EVE way at all of picking a setup and sticking with it.
I say let's face facts, DUST 514 is not EVE, DUST is trying to appeal to a different crowd, but the game ain't ready. Refunding the SP is a temporary fix to a big problem, DUST lacks content and this would give people something to play with while we wait.
As far as saying a refund on SP for sure won't happen, I'm just going with what the Devs have said they're considering / planning and what people are sure to demand when all the new race goodies and gear come out.
There is a clear difference between people in game, and the hardcore [EVE] people who spend time on these forums. People I've spoken to in game all want to see this. Most are not EVE players, they didn't have the advantage of understanding the menu's modules and skill point system that most forum users seem to. [--> Read as overly confusing.] They want this and seeing as how the game is still in BETA open or closed, they're the majority and I think should get it. After all, they're playing catch up and it's not EVE players who will make DUST 514 a success. You shouldn't generalise not all of us are eve players, there are more than a few regulars on this forum who just came straight into dust, all of us ****** up our sp allocation at some point. I screwed mine up when I started playing the beta again after it moved to tranquillity, in fact I messed it up so bad I restarted on this character. So I understand where you guys are coming from when you complain and the game does do a poor job of explaining things, but you guys have always had the option to ask for help before you spend any single sp points, it falls to us the players to help new players understand what to do. Besides i believe there's a saying in eve "there is no wasted sp" chances are your probably going to end up using those skills at some point. Thank you, and you're right I shouldn't generalize. But the difference between people I've discussed it with in-game and those on the forums is a 180 point of view.
I'm guessing the majority of players you spoke to just spoke from a personal viewpoint, on the forums there were a couple of really long threads about the subject where pretty much everyone pitched in and debated it, and one of the most common opinions was the one you're seeing in the above posts |
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