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Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.03.10 13:51:00 -
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Cookie what time zone are your players mostly? |
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Posted - 2013.03.13 23:07:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Good corp with good ppl and good talent.
I am going to have to politely disagree. But you don't have to take my word on it, how bout a wager Mavado?
Obviously Subdreddit and Giant are gearing to butt heads, seems to me an ideal time for me to get some payback after our last bet?
Giant loses, for a week you put "I wish I was in TEST", Hyperlink included, in the bottom of posts
We lose and for a week I put the same for EoN and the related hyperlink (or SyNergy) website in my submissions. You know I am good for it.
Agreed? |
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Posted - 2013.03.14 15:22:00 -
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@Cookiestein Mavado says we should work out a wager.
How bout same deal but with "Some people make giants feel small."
My end would be "Giants dread no one." With related hyperlink of your choice (no party of lemons, but forums recruitment threads are fine or something. The match thread, if you like, is an option.).
One week starting day after match.
In the spirit of fairness I wanted to make yours sound cool.
Let me know if this is agreeable |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 14:01:00 -
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GIANT I have to say I was pretty astonished that we could control our newbies I gathered in 8 minutes for our training match. Heck I was actually able to communicate better with a deaf player than you were the majority of your team.
At first I thought about letting it slide after your proto/hm82 heavy went down twice from my exile in close range with me in a damn type 1 logi. Tell your guy to pump his damn core skills if he couldn't put me down. He should be embarrassed.
For the record after a peaceful postponing was set up I agreed to a training match and informed them I'd be trying to field newer guys who have not had corp battle experience. We agreed to tier 1 items and not push hard and get some experience for people. I also agreed to tell my guys to not shoot the dropship as he wanted to practice. I had my guys clean their fits and explain no don't use geks as this is about getting some experience and we had an agreement. I asked arunis permission for type 2 to avoid full refitting.
The first enemy was fine we encountered, the heavy in proto armor with an 82 caused me to raise eyebrows, the assault in proto armor and a gek made the other one go up. The madruger tank was when I tried to check the channel and see if Arunis, who was on the other side leading thing, said anything. The snipers diving out of the dropship for tactical positions was when I began targeting his dropship to get his attention.
I fielded last minute newbies in reduced gear in good faith and got burned for it. Shame on me. I will say I am pleased with my teams ability to listen after seeing Giant's side lack of. They followed instructions and refitted last minute, as well as left the dropship alone.
Arunis admitted authorizing the MH82 onl, which confuses me since why the hell does someone need to use a much more expensive gun, the idea of him not having HMGs on hand is ludicrous.
They also offered a consolation match, one militia only, the other them in militia only. I find it hard personally to trust it possible and the lopsided match doesn't interest me anyway as I don't enjoy the idea of fighting a gimped team just to boost my ego.
To summarize the 100mil match was canceled, a training match at minimum cost was done instead. Giant won that. Congratulations on your hard fought victory gentlemen. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 14:48:00 -
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Furthermore I would like to mention that Giant had originally wanted the game delay to occur by us letting them win and them sending a neutral party over to retrieve our half of the funds to be used on a different day. We eventually agreed on us winning and sending it to them. The game lobby ended up dying and both sides were auto refunded.
I'm certainly thankful we didn't go with giant's plan now.
I also wanted to mention that during the negotiations I even talked about the fact that in the current setup screwing over another corp is foolish as the ISK is secondary, fun is primary. There is no reason to play against someone who you know might jerk you around.
I also wanted to make mention of my wager. Apparently I was wrong a lot this week, no one is needed to make giant's feel small. They are small men calling themselves giants. |
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Posted - 2013.03.16 16:43:00 -
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@Mavado please for the love of god tell me we don't need to discuss the difference between a tier 1 tank and tier 1 suits in an 8v8 training match. If he wanted tanks in there he could have asked and I would have let him know if it was feasible.
@Travi I guess I imagined the guys in black armor with red eyes for someone on your team then? I don't know it was hard to get a look for 5 feet away.
Prior match I was talking to Arunis about how it'll be nice to get some experience for people who haven't gotten to play a corp match yet and during negotiations we discussed how we want to reschedule the game because the goal isn't the ISK it is a good game. I didn't come in expecting to win since I know you guys might not have had people on hand who were newer. I don't mind fielding who you can, but Arunis also knew I was going in specifically with newer guys. All these factors add up to excessive.
You also can't discount the fact that you had people using an advantage that was specifically requested as non targeted. When you have snipers dropping on the roof from the dropship, a tank prowling the exterior, and a VK0 heavy watching the nearest objective my guys are gonna be in a bit harder of a spot. My biggest blunder was thinking "surely there is a reason I am not seeing". And you saw higher tier items because after the snipers began to drop on the roof I told everyone to go pub match gear, some may have went harder, I relied on them to do their thing as I was spending my time trying to get Arunis' attention to salvage what I was hoping was a good opportunity for both sides.
also to be clear we had discussed options for the match including "R&D", Bumper cars, and training. Arunis had offered flying lessons if anyone on my side wanted it. In no way were we under the impression of a competitive match. I had told Arunis that it would be a good opportunity if anyone on their side wanted to try practice with odd weapons like burst or tact rifles.
Not all of your guys ran higher tier stuff, but it was certainly out there.
I also want to be 100% on why I am pissed at this.
1. I was trying to get some guys a chance to try something they hadn't gotten to do before, as when I was starting out I would have really enjoyed the opportunity.
2. I was looking forward to fostering some good will to plan more matches as it is something we would have liked to do for more variety in the game.
3. I had been pushing for trusting Giant in internal negotiations for planning the match cancellation.
4. If you had tricked us in a normal game with our experienced guys I would say we were dumb. Same tactics with the people we were normally gonna field then we need to be ready, I expect tricks in the future. But I shouldn't let it go when it is people I am trying to get more corp involved and being a smaller corp you should appreciate that. We want people to have fun as part of our community same as you and it doesn't help fostering communities when this stuff goes down.
And for the record, correct, you don't openly recruit. You are tighter knit and know who you bring in. Not being able to communicate the purpose of the good will match is therefore confusing to me. |
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