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Beld Errmon
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.03.08 01:26:00 -
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What a re-tarded reaction to fixing the dmg mod problem, every aspect of the game will be affected by them fixing this, don't forget that not only will rails do less dmg so will blasters and dropsuits with dmg mods, so with this is mind and I'm sure your a smart enough player to have already thought of this, I've gotta call you a self centered man child.
You shouldn't be opposing them fixing a clearly broken mechanic, you should be screaming for shield tanks to be brought into line with armor tanks, which could probably be achieved simply by making their shield hardeners the same as the armor ones and getting shield boosters to rep a little more. If they did this it will be armor tankers crying though that its unfair that shield tanks are so fast have a tough tank and get to fit dmg mods *shrug*
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Charlotte O'Dell
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.08 01:44:00 -
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exactly. stop nerfing vehicles. the best forge gun should not be better than the best rail gun. the best swwarm launcehr should not be better than the best missile turret. stop buffing AV. stop nerfing armor. CCP, if you keep nerfing the things that keep the non-COD players happy, then ppl will get pissed. stop catering to these boot as blueberries bc they cant kill a tank with one hit of a swarm launcher. tanks cost MILLIONS. my taank should CRUSH ANYONE THAT DOESNT HAVE PROTO AV. like how the **** does one guy with AV grenades kill a tank by himself- it's too strong. make tanks stronger or nerf AV. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1091
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:55:00 -
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Actually, shields weren't nerfed.
Armor was buffed. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:03:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:like i told slap alldins tank will never have FULL 30K EHP or w/e
because rails do ALOT more dmg than u can actually rep back so he will never get close to around that before he blows up
in a blaster fight yea that makes a diff but not a rail fight where u output that much dmg in a shot
What if I were to tell you that YES I can? 2 hardeners, 2 big reps...
However, A railtank will always prevent the surya from reaching this much HP if it has heat sinks. |
BobThe843CakeMan
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
141
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:06:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Actually, shields weren't nerfed.
Armor was buffed.
This is what happened. they only added armor hardeners. But on a side note. shield tanks are still effective. Just in different ways than armor. such as AV or speed or surppresing ppl with missiles. YEA I SAID MISSILES. missiles work. ppl just havn't skilled into them. as for me i'm working on it. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:09:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:
1. I have tanked every build since E3 aka I started in that builld. Precursor was one of the best tank v tank builds. but we are never going to see that because CCP is not smart enough to relize they can just bump AV up a little to compensate. instead they went the nerf route.
ah but if they bump AV up it leaves dropship's in an even worse state then they already are. it would have an impact on LAV's as well.
It's okay, this guy's smart enough to know that when only one class of vehicle dominates the map that makes for a super fun game! Hell we could evenly buff tanks and AV now, tanks at 100% and AV being 150% stronger, and the game would be better than ever!
GOD CCP IS SO DUMB, HOW CAN THEY NOT SEE THIS GUYZ!? |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
435
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:40:00 -
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I think my tank should eat basic av nades like candy, but why does CCP think otherwise? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:57:00 -
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Another thing ppl gotta look at is that while shields would need to be buffed specifically the hardeners and missiles We still have the problem with the EZ mode no skill AV weapons are all anti-armor
Both AV nades and Swarms are lock on spam and forget weapons that take no skill.
Caeli posted a good fix for AV nades to keep the homing feature but prevent it from being easily spammable like they are now
and Noc has posted an awesome thread on Swarm Variants that all swarms should require to maintain a lockon, Missile speed will be bumped of course and dmg slightly prob since ur not able to spam 3 volleys in like 10 secs |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
435
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Posted - 2013.03.08 04:12:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Another thing ppl gotta look at is that while shields would need to be buffed specifically the hardeners and missiles We still have the problem with the EZ mode no skill AV weapons are all anti-armor
Both AV nades and Swarms are lock on spam and forget weapons that take no skill.
Caeli posted a good fix for AV nades to keep the homing feature but prevent it from being easily spammable like they are now
and Noc has posted an awesome thread on Swarm Variants that all swarms should require to maintain a lockon, Missile speed will be bumped of course and dmg slightly prob since ur not able to spam 3 volleys in like 10 secs
But you forget mavado, scrubs like things easy and simple. |
CLOSEDBETA TSTR-est E3
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.08 04:22:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.08 05:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Actually, shields weren't nerfed.
Armor was buffed.
Actually shields where nerfed along with armor then they put in active hardeners for shields(which suck) then they put in active hardeners for armor which buffed them to almost where they should be. But putting them pass shield tanks actually. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
704
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Posted - 2013.03.08 05:13:00 -
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this thread fails as a useful resource for new or veteran players. |
HIV in yourHAV
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.08 05:14:00 -
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I'd just like to throw out a 'who gives a f*ck' here.
Excluding tank vs tank warfare, any HAV above militia is invincible to the lowbies running around with militia swarms and militia forge guns. If you are worried about tank vs tank warfare, then you shouldn't be worried about shields vs armor, you should be worried about the all-powerful railgun tank. |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.03.08 05:17:00 -
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tank players complaining about AV players, how unsurprising. |
Syther Shadows
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.03.08 05:36:00 -
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Gusk Hevv wrote:Shield tanks haven't been nerfed; they were so ridiculous before and now they are Normal so everyone thinks they are useless
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE GO GROW A PAIR!
spec into shields for your drop suit
realize Armour tank is better
complain that you wasted all your time training shields when its useless
(its not useless you just lack a level of hormones in your body due to a "pair") |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1095
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Posted - 2013.03.08 06:14:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:I know you're complaining about my thread about railguns with damage mods. We ALL know they're broken.
Nope they are not. Its the balance factor against armor tanks which have insane amount of HP. And the last time ive checked i still need 3 shots with a ADV compressed railgun to destroy a gunnlogi which was around the same lvl as my tank. Sorry but the tank fights where i need 8 hits to kill somebody aint coming back. Nerf damage mods= armor tank domination the whole day. Everything is working as planned and the railguns have beeing nerfed after the tourny. Simply cause they where capable to deal 5500HP+ damage with a single hit on a sagaris(with damage mods). Now they deal around ~4000HP damage (with damage mods). Then you have to think about resistance on the tank itself which can put that down to like 3000HP per hit. And if we are at it why do forgeguns deal more base damage then railguns? If damage mods on vehicles receive a nerf then you can throw shield tanks stright into the bin and grab a forgegun instead. You have to see it from the other perspective. At the beginning of the game you could 2-3 shot militia tanks with a militia railgun. The more advanced the tanks become the more damage output you need to take them down. Prime example is the n00b with a soma and a militia railgun. he drives up to a "save position" shots my sagaris 3 times and didnt even put me down to 60% of the shields. While i only need 1-2 shots to take him out with a maxed out railgun. Basically nothing has changed since day 1 of this build. A sagaris or a surya can pop each other really quickly but on the other hand a soma can aswell pop a sica in the same amount of time. Or do i have to remind every 1 to the days where damage mods didnt worked and where armor tanks where unstoppable beasts? And if you doesnt receive the message:
Tanks are balanced |
Rifter7
Improvise.
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Posted - 2013.03.08 07:33:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:
And if it happens, they'll cry that the maps are too big to go everywhere on foot and they need vehicles so they can get around faster.
this will begin the introduction of prototype segways. |
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