DUST Search - Imperfects Affecting Lore?

Kain Spero wrote:

Orin the Freak wrote:

winner of the tourney should get a mention IMO.

I totally agree. I think that STB facing off against PFBHz is a fantastic story. I'm really proud of what the community has done to make this possible. As I've said before without people actually participating in the tourney none of this would matter.

I really appreciate CCP writing the tournament into lore and I feel like it is a statement by CCP that no matter what our actions are we are part of the game's story.

Every battle, every corp drama, every friendship made, all of it is part of the story of New Eden. It's one of the things that has kept me going in this universe for almost eight years now. It's one of the things that makes and will make Dust 514 great. How many games can you think of where a player event can effect the permeant story inhabited by hundreds of thousands and, one day, millions of people? Every single person who was in the tourney is part of the story of New Eden. Even the people who boycotted the tourney are part of the story. We are all linked through New Eden.

I'm glad I could play a small part in all of this and I look forward to the community working together to make even more kick *** stuff possible as we go forward.


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Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 57	Posted - 2013.03.06 13:11:00 - [1] - Quote It's not like an employee of CCP has ever shown bias to a player corp of EvE before...
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 57	Posted - 2013.03.06 14:21:00 - [2] - Quote Just so long as no one gets gear they otherwise shouldn't get, and no undo attention that another corp can't get then I am fine with aa tip of that to their commitment to the game.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 58	Posted - 2013.03.06 15:49:00 - [3] - Quote They need to be careful with it since being primarily a FPS the amount of RP that goes on compared to EvE is very, very little. If all it takes is size of an event to get noticed then you are going to dilute the amazingly reach detail that already exists within the setting. Dust may involve a bunch of Immortal mercenaries but it is in EvE where the demi-gods dwell. How do you balance the lore between the two? I for one would want the RP/Lore elements to always remain stronger than just the size of an event.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 58	Posted - 2013.03.06 16:21:00 - [4] - Quote Free Beers wrote: I think with FW coming there is a lot of potential for merc corps to be part of EvE lore. When epic battles occur there can be endless RP material. I do appreciate that when mentioned the lore does stick with our persona. All credit goes to Kain though for the efforts into to the Open Beta Tourny and for CCP that sponsered the rewards. I doubt that Dust being a FPS will attract very much RP at all, the mentality of most of the players is not there to get that immersion that EvE can offer. And so long as everyone gets those rewards and just not people of a specific corporation that is okay. Because if what happened in EvE happens here in Dust it will go over very well. Doing it once always will leave that doubt will CCP allow its employees to influence the outcome of Corp battles.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 59	Posted - 2013.03.06 17:48:00 - [5] - Quote Or be highly annoyed that another self-important group is trying to dictate life in New Eden. Started with the Capsuleers at least they were in space and could be ignored since the governments of New Eden kept their deprivations at bay. Now here are these wild cards, these loose cannons with a self important attitude of being immortal soldiers to fight the wars of the future. Human history clearly shows that in time those of lower stations will eventually rise up and destroy those who they believed oppressed them.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 59	Posted - 2013.03.06 18:07:00 - [6] - Quote Still though I find it imperative that CCP be careful what they are doing is on a very slippery slope.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 59	Posted - 2013.03.06 18:16:00 - [7] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Fraceska wrote: Still though I find it imperative that CCP be careful what they are doing is on a very slippery slope. I don't find the slope slippery at all The issue will then become if CCP starts to show to much attention to one corp (or a small selection) over all the others you will create another disparity in your customer base. "Well the only way to do anything in that game is to join one of those corporations" "Why play if we can't make a difference, the others are already to well established" "CCP picks only those that they like" It is nothing against one corp over the other. They need to be mindful about alienating their players when the games mechanics are still shoddy at best. And for it being a beta? It can come across as them already showing favoritism just like what happened in EvE.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 59	Posted - 2013.03.06 18:26:00 - [8] - Quote Not mad at all I really have no emotional investment in this. I just think that CCP needs to be mindful of how they handle such interactions without it seeing to be favoritism once more.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 59	Posted - 2013.03.06 18:37:00 - [9] - Quote Not jealous at all. I have no emotional investment in the game beyond its connections to the much loved EvE. I flown in corps, I've flown solo. I've been a pirate and a care bear. CCP has had some great idea's and they have had some poor idea's. How they handle the interactions with player run corporations has yet to be decided. It can add to the lore of the game or it can drive people away.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 59	Posted - 2013.03.06 18:44:00 - [10] - Quote It may be free to play but with the aggravation and annoyance that this game can generate. Along with the inability to really change the lore of the game for small to mid corporations would be one reason among many for not to want to play this game when there are others out that puts them on even footing. And in EvE only the largest and most powerful corporations ever changed the lore. So that is not really something that most play for, its like an apple that is hanging just out of reach. CCP says its possible but only in the most extreme of cases.

Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 62	Posted - 2013.03.06 19:10:00 - [11] - Quote Speaking for myself I would still be against it. For me it is not about which corp is being factored into lore, how ever trivial at first. But the precedent that it will set. Will it be like EvE and be a challenge to get factored into the lore which only a few of the largest corporations were able to do after years of dedicated play. Or seemingly easily enough in Dust during its beta in organizing a tournament? Is it because the game is more narrowly focused than EvE that it will be easier to get mentioned in the Lore? Will other Corps be able to do it? Will single players be able to do it? What is the bar the CCP is setting for being able to adjust the lore of the setting. That is what I am curious about. Will they take pains to ensure more playability than in EvE which the mega-corps just simply dominate and allow for no new players to matter?
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 64	Posted - 2013.03.06 19:37:00 - [12] - Quote If it is just as easy for other Corporations and individuals to get mentioned then have at it. I don't really know who any of you are, don't care to either. Just recently came to the forum with a few ideas for the feedback/request area and kind of got stuck here. I just played game and enjoyed the matches. So sorry if I am not stroking your ego if this is about your Corporation.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 64	Posted - 2013.03.06 19:39:00 - [13] - Quote And if wasn't for a friend who was playing I would still be in a starter corp just going through match after match getting SP and getting gear.
Fraceska Opus Arcana Orion Empire 72	Posted - 2013.03.06 20:43:00 - [14] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Orin the Freak wrote: winner of the tourney should get a mention IMO. I totally agree. I think that STB facing off against PFBHz is a fantastic story. I'm really proud of what the community has done to make this possible. As I've said before without people actually participating in the tourney none of this would matter. I really appreciate CCP writing the tournament into lore and I feel like it is a statement by CCP that no matter what our actions are we are part of the game's story. Every battle, every corp drama, every friendship made, all of it is part of the story of New Eden. It's one of the things that has kept me going in this universe for almost eight years now. It's one of the things that makes and will make Dust 514 great. How many games can you think of where a player event can effect the permeant story inhabited by hundreds of thousands and, one day, millions of people? Every single person who was in the tourney is part of the story of New Eden. Even the people who boycotted the tourney are part of the story. We are all linked through New Eden. I'm glad I could play a small part in all of this and I look forward to the community working together to make even more kick *** stuff possible as we go forward. I can understand this. Everyone should be part of shaping the setting of the Dust.