DUST Search - -Scouts + Shot gunners?

Big miku wrote:

XeroTheBigBoss wrote:

So because I am trying to get information from my Scout brothers or any experienced player that may know about Scout, this makes me a low tier scout? Whatever low tier high tier makes no difference to me this thread is for the purpose of mixing opinions into my equation to see what I can cook up. NOT for somebody to come in here and tell me to go to google. I am simply trying to get the Scouts in the community to be involved in a friendly conversation if this does not please you than you aren't forced to be apart of the conversation. That simple, lol.

I was just enlightening you as to the fault in your reasoning. Scouts are made for Scouting primarily. good scouts can slayslay niggas cold all day erryday, if you can't do that yet, then you're just not a slayslay. Sticking to doing scout things and practice the dakka and one day you'll be as hardcore as them OG beast scouts. Look, I don't mean any offense broda. Just going from my experience as an HMG against Good scouts. I shoot them and they split in like a second flat outta my los or range and peck me with ARs or Lasers.


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XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 20:10:00 - [1] - Quote Can we please call us something else? CQC Specialists? Shotgun berserkers? We should not be called Scouts. We can't really mark anything for a period of time without risking our head being sniped off. We can't gun fight against proto stacked dmg mod suits we are too squishy. We can't fight Heavy at all we can SOMETIME take on crappy Assault proto dmg mod build but not top players. Only thing people ever tell me we are good for is speed and shotgun. So I am thinking lets stop making them sound cool with a name like Scout and just call them Shotgunner. We should not be able to use nothing but SMG, shotgun, and Sniper rifle. Give us something that is worth having. Fast shields means nothing when dmg mod rips through them with a few shots. It is not hard to land a few bullets enough to tear away a shield. Can I get some strafe speed? more jumps? more shields? SOMETHING worth making a Scout unique in fights? Assault is balanced they have it all Heavy is armor with a killer "underpowered" sniper rifle that has 300+ with "a over heat" Scouts have faster shield regen assuming the enemy can't shoot it all gone than you gotta stack regs to make it come back a few seconds faster than normal but still have to wait that is no advantage at all. So either give us something that makes us cool or just allow us to only use Shotgun and sniper rifles.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 20:23:00 - [2] - Quote It's no secret most Scouts feel they have to be "Gayar Snipacus" They can't do much else. Only real other choice is running shotgun or you can YOLO like me and play a light armor Assault.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 20:29:00 - [3] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: 1) Don't run/jump in close corners if you are trying to sneak. 2) I think tactical assault rifles/lasers may be underestimated for scouts. 3) Dropping uplinks/ reviving behind enemy lines. 4) You can get a 35m+ detection on your dropsuit for under 150k SP and even better with a little more. That's outside of the optimal ranges of a lot of guns. 5) Like the logi, you aren't made to fight solo most of the time. Everyone is so KILL obsessed. Assaults ARE the damage dealer. Everyone else IS a suboptimal DPSer. Which is okay right now, but I'm really thinking that there will be many more elements to battlefield dynamics than just putting damage on target. So I am supposed to run around and use some kind of scanner for my team? This is my purpose on a team? I am not sure how to use those things I will try them out though if this is my job I think redline sniping sounds a bit more fun of a job than hiding in holes and turning on my little scanner and going back to sleep till I feel the need to scan again.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 20:39:00 - [4] - Quote Big miku wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: So I am supposed to run around and use some kind of scanner for my team?. sounds exactly like something a scout would do. Man sounds like I chose the wrong suit than. If they would of explained scout more clearly that they are PURE spy and nothing on the battlefield I would of NEVER chosen to be one. I liked them for their ability to get in and out of hot spots but now that everybody has proto you can't even kill nobody fast enough to get in and out. a HMG would snipe you like before you got away.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 20:57:00 - [5] - Quote Big miku wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: This whole thread makes no sense, the Scout Suit is a suit! No suit should have limitations outside of reason, just stats. Scouts shouldn't be forced to use shotguns! Guy is just upset he is not a top tier scout yet and is blaming the game, not the player. Lol, please shut THE HELL UP! You don't even know me and you're making quite a story how I am a trash player. I am simply throwing my opinion out there to fish in other people's opinions so I can think of different ideas. For some assclown like you to come in with all the answers just know your damn role. BACK TO TOPIC! I get the we are the jab thing. That makes sense. As far as gun fighting go it seems like our only real gun people say to use is shotgun and sniper rifles why? They are most of the time 1 shots be it close or far. In most games requiring a light med heavy set up there is speed in MOVEMENT not just sprint. Add in faster strafes or extra jumps or something.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 21:08:00 - [6] - Quote Big miku wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Lol, please shut THE HELL UP! You don't even know me and you're making quite a story how I am a trash player. I am simply throwing my opinion out there to fish in other people's opinions so I can think of different ideas. For some assclown like you to come in with all the answers just know your damn role. Don't be upset, Good scouts wipe and bad scouts, as you seem to be, don't. I never said you was a trash player broda, just not a top tier scout. Go ahead and scroll up. You be up here wahwahwah over you lack of skill as a scout. So because I am trying to get information from my Scout brothers or any experienced player that may know about Scout, this makes me a low tier scout? Whatever low tier high tier makes no difference to me this thread is for the purpose of mixing opinions into my equation to see what I can cook up. NOT for somebody to come in here and tell me to go to google. I am simply trying to get the Scouts in the community to be involved in a friendly conversation if this does not please you than you aren't forced to be apart of the conversation. That simple, lol.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 21:09:00 - [7] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: I get killed by scouts with nova knives a lot. Try that. Thanks for advice! Back on topic! Is this because you are a heavy and you're too slow to get away from knife beserker? What makes this tactic work well against you, why?
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 21:17:00 - [8] - Quote Big miku wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: So because I am trying to get information from my Scout brothers or any experienced player that may know about Scout, this makes me a low tier scout? Whatever low tier high tier makes no difference to me this thread is for the purpose of mixing opinions into my equation to see what I can cook up. NOT for somebody to come in here and tell me to go to google. I am simply trying to get the Scouts in the community to be involved in a friendly conversation if this does not please you than you aren't forced to be apart of the conversation. That simple, lol. I was just enlightening you as to the fault in your reasoning. Scouts are made for Scouting primarily. good scouts can slayslay niggas cold all day erryday, if you can't do that yet, then you're just not a slayslay. Sticking to doing scout things and practice the dakka and one day you'll be as hardcore as them OG beast scouts. Look, I don't mean any offense broda. Just going from my experience as an HMG against Good scouts. I shoot them and they split in like a second flat outta my los or range and peck me with ARs or Lasers. Care to name some beast OG scouts? Could you maybe have some come in here and give a small paragraph or so with good advice how to play it correctly? Or what exactly is the Scouts sole purpose in the game? Sorry than for the mean words. I thought you were being a egotistical moron coming in to completely knock the thread off topic.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 21:18:00 - [9] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: got 27 kills with this the other day militia scout suit militia shotgun Nova Knives Basic precision enhancer Militia profile damp and im garbage, but with all my skills in stealth and scanning i get a very nice advantage over other people. for me a sniper rifle is wasted on something so fast, agile and stealthy. think of yourself more like a surgeon, a shotgun surgeon So for the little scanner thingy can you just spam it? or is there cool down? How exactly does it work? I just kinda wanna know what I am getting into before putting skills into it while adding conversation toward the topic for other Scouts or anybody who has these same questions.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 21:21:00 - [10] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: got 27 kills with this the other day militia scout suit militia shotgun Nova Knives Basic precision enhancer Militia profile damp and im garbage, but with all my skills in stealth and scanning i get a very nice advantage over other people. for me a sniper rifle is wasted on something so fast, agile and stealthy. think of yourself more like a surgeon, a shotgun surgeon So for the little scanner thingy can you just spam it? or is there cool down? How exactly does it work? I just kinda wanna know what I am getting into before putting skills into it while adding conversation toward the topic for other Scouts or anybody who has these same questions. The scanner is passive. The active ones are on vehicles. And people don't really know precisely how it works yet. You have to mess with it yourself, but I"m pretty sure it corresponds to the V on your tacnet, although a few disagree with me on that. Hmm so it's kind of like MAG's little cloak thing? I jus need it equipped and it will pick up people close to me?

XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 21:23:00 - [11] - Quote Big miku wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Care to name some beast OG scouts? Could you maybe have some come in here and give a small paragraph or so with good advice how to play it correctly? Or what exactly is the Scouts sole purpose in the game? Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane from STB wreck wherever they are. My Broda Obi from IE is quickly becoming too scary for me. I've ran into a few that have killed me consistently with LRs from range. Cannot recall their names as I have not encountered them often. Don't they use shotguns though? I am kinda trying to test the waters outside of shotgun. Although I will get into it if it truly is their best weapon.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.03.05 21:41:00 - [12] - Quote Orin the Freak wrote: Well, IMO, if you are a logi, sniper, or scout going for KDR, you are doing it wrong. that doesn't mean you can't get a bunch of kills and still be doing your job, but it means support roles are just that. as a scout, again IMO, they are best when working with their team to flank, or otherwise take the enemy by surprise. Hack/guard objectives by using your small frame/scan profile to hide. Use weapons that don't use direct hits. Mass drivers not only disorient, but if you're using it right, they won't even see where the shots are coming from. if you want to play as a light assault, go ahead, but the Assault suit will generally be better for that. Prob would be better but it's too late... I am too far in Scout.