DUST Search - Dust 514 to be release this Summer?!

Free Beers wrote:

Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:

Free Beers wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Noc Tempre wrote:

We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Sorry but internet lawyers are probably not on your side on this one.

It's a commercial release and is considered a live game. Who told me this? Why Sony Online Entertainment of course. Even if ccp just changed the wording in the merc pack purchase agreement it doesn't effect merc packs already purchased. It's just like buying a car under 5 year warranty. Then the car company changes all the warranties to 3 year. If you purchased yours under a 5 year you still get a 5 year.

So ccp is in breach on contract here. The main thing that is keeping this from meaning anything is that we still get fair use of the aurum we have spent. Hence there is no material breach of contract. They know this and thus basically give us the ,,|,,

You paying money doesn't mean anything. You were not forced to pay money to enter the beta. And how else do you think all free-to-play games test their micro-transaction system if not putting it into the beta as well?

An example: during League Of Legends beta, you could buy characters and runes. And I can assure you that it didn't take the "Beta" label off for one bit.

It's apparent you dont know what I am refering to or why. Since your either new or an idiot ill let you off easy. 10 hail marys and 5 clone suicides. Stop sinning and post less

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Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1012	Posted - 2013.03.03 22:42:00 - [1] - Quote Check out the following video at 17 minutes in. http://www.kennedy-center.org/explorer/videos/?id=M5298&type=A
The Black Art Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2013.03.03 22:47:00 - [2] - Quote Hasn't this been known for a while? I could have sworn it was already stated somewhere.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 902	Posted - 2013.03.03 22:49:00 - [3] - Quote They keep promises they have a ton of features already done but not deployed yet. They orginally said the top down RTS feature would be out by November of last year. I think they are working at full speed to introduce racial suits now, which used to be a feature planed for beyond 2013. They have pushed release back so far during beta by 6 months. So my hope is they are polishing features they finished but the game testers broke in house, and they woke up and thought, oh having only 1 race per suit would be stupid.
Doc Kok Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 77	Posted - 2013.03.03 22:50:00 - [4] - Quote Sexy bruh
Megarom Stingscream DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2013.03.03 23:46:00 - [5] - Quote I loved the kid asking the Xbox question.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 67	Posted - 2013.03.04 07:00:00 - [6] - Quote Summer = Fanfest. Aw yes, month and a few to go.
NIKIA BETHUNE Ill Omens 23	Posted - 2013.03.04 07:03:00 - [7] - Quote Lets just see what happens
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1180	Posted - 2013.03.04 07:23:00 - [8] - Quote We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 42	Posted - 2013.03.04 07:29:00 - [9] - Quote What all features do they say are needed before they will call it an official release? Does this mean we can expect 15km map sizes, more guns/vehicles, or double the player count in game? What's it all mean?
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 198	Posted - 2013.03.04 12:19:00 - [10] - Quote I wish I would have known that they were in my hood!

Panther Alpha Blueberries United 77	Posted - 2013.03.04 12:32:00 - [11] - Quote I still hoping that will be released in early April ( My birthday ) ........ one can only dream. But summer sounds more realistic.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2966	Posted - 2013.03.04 13:30:00 - [12] - Quote They keep stating 2013 summer for 1.0 release so they can hope to beat that deadline.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 424	Posted - 2013.03.04 13:37:00 - [13] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. When the 'Beta - Work in progress' stamp disappears I'll think about agreeing with you.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2966	Posted - 2013.03.04 13:46:00 - [14] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. Sorry but internet lawyers are probably not on your side on this one.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 264	Posted - 2013.03.04 14:01:00 - [15] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. Not this again.... Not even going into this again....
Delirium Inferno Chernova Industries 42	Posted - 2013.03.04 14:38:00 - [16] - Quote At fanfest last year they said they would release at the end of 2012 and their would be a big expansion adding tons of features we are yet to have in Early 2013. Never trust CCP with dates.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 425	Posted - 2013.03.04 14:51:00 - [17] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: At fanfest last year they said they would release at the end of 2012 and their would be a big expansion adding tons of features we are yet to have in Early 2013. Never trust CCP with dates. Ok, I'll give you that. What I do trust them to do is engage in pioneering efforts that take us completely off the map of the known world. Sometimes when you're pioneering like that, kittenpoo happens, and all of a sudden you find yourself in a situation where you've gotta cut, set, splint and sew your own leg. I'm thinking the tranistion from CARBON to Unreal 3 was something of that nature. But here we are - still kickin'.
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 166	Posted - 2013.03.04 15:49:00 - [18] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. Copy-pasting your post and expecting different results? I think I smell a bit of insanity here.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1181	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:21:00 - [19] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. When the 'Beta - Work in progress' stamp disappears I'll think about agreeing with you. Money spent is permanent. The beta label is just a shield from reviews. What is YOUR definition of release?
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 123	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:28:00 - [20] - Quote The best thing about CCP's development model is that their games are in development forever. This also makes it difficult to draw a meaningful distinction between "open beta" and "release" from a player perspective. For the coders it matters, but for us the difference between the next beta build and one of the many free expansions we're going to be getting over DUST 514's lifecycle is pretty transparent.

Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1139	Posted - 2013.03.04 18:43:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. Sorry but internet lawyers are probably not on your side on this one. It's a commercial release and is considered a live game. Who told me this? Why Sony Online Entertainment of course. Even if ccp just changed the wording in the merc pack purchase agreement it doesn't effect merc packs already purchased. It's just like buying a car under 5 year warranty. Then the car company changes all the warranties to 3 year. If you purchased yours under a 5 year you still get a 5 year. So ccp is in breach on contract here. The main thing that is keeping this from meaning anything is that we still get fair use of the aurum we have spent. Hence there is no material breach of contract. They know this and thus basically give us the ,,\|,,
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1182	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:14:00 - [22] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: The best thing about CCP's development model is that their games are in development forever. This also makes it difficult to draw a meaningful distinction between "open beta" and "release" from a player perspective. For the coders it matters, but for us the difference between the next beta build and one of the many free expansions we're going to be getting over DUST 514's lifecycle is pretty transparent. They let it slip a native PS4 client is not in the works yet. That means this game is a ticking clock to death.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 715	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:20:00 - [23] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: The best thing about CCP's development model is that their games are in development forever. This also makes it difficult to draw a meaningful distinction between "open beta" and "release" from a player perspective. For the coders it matters, but for us the difference between the next beta build and one of the many free expansions we're going to be getting over DUST 514's lifecycle is pretty transparent. They let it slip a native PS4 client is not in the works yet. That means this game is a ticking clock to death. Meh! I wouldnt worry about that. This is just more justification for more budget to port it to PS4. Them sneaky PMs !
Zahle Undt Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:29:00 - [24] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: The best thing about CCP's development model is that their games are in development forever. This also makes it difficult to draw a meaningful distinction between "open beta" and "release" from a player perspective. For the coders it matters, but for us the difference between the next beta build and one of the many free expansions we're going to be getting over DUST 514's lifecycle is pretty transparent. They let it slip a native PS4 client is not in the works yet. That means this game is a ticking clock to death. You should just quit then.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1183	Posted - 2013.03.04 19:41:00 - [25] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: The best thing about CCP's development model is that their games are in development forever. This also makes it difficult to draw a meaningful distinction between "open beta" and "release" from a player perspective. For the coders it matters, but for us the difference between the next beta build and one of the many free expansions we're going to be getting over DUST 514's lifecycle is pretty transparent. They let it slip a native PS4 client is not in the works yet. That means this game is a ticking clock to death. You should just quit then. Honestly, I'm almost there. I'm giving them until next expansion.
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 166	Posted - 2013.03.04 22:54:00 - [26] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. Sorry but internet lawyers are probably not on your side on this one. It's a commercial release and is considered a live game. Who told me this? Why Sony Online Entertainment of course. Even if ccp just changed the wording in the merc pack purchase agreement it doesn't effect merc packs already purchased. It's just like buying a car under 5 year warranty. Then the car company changes all the warranties to 3 year. If you purchased yours under a 5 year you still get a 5 year. So ccp is in breach on contract here. The main thing that is keeping this from meaning anything is that we still get fair use of the aurum we have spent. Hence there is no material breach of contract. They know this and thus basically give us the ,,\|,, You paying money doesn't mean anything. You were not forced to pay money to enter the beta. And how else do you think all free-to-play games test their micro-transaction system if not putting it into the beta as well? An example: during League Of Legends beta, you could buy characters and runes. And I can assure you that it didn't take the "Beta" label off for one bit.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1143	Posted - 2013.03.05 00:32:00 - [27] - Quote Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: Free Beers wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. Sorry but internet lawyers are probably not on your side on this one. It's a commercial release and is considered a live game. Who told me this? Why Sony Online Entertainment of course. Even if ccp just changed the wording in the merc pack purchase agreement it doesn't effect merc packs already purchased. It's just like buying a car under 5 year warranty. Then the car company changes all the warranties to 3 year. If you purchased yours under a 5 year you still get a 5 year. So ccp is in breach on contract here. The main thing that is keeping this from meaning anything is that we still get fair use of the aurum we have spent. Hence there is no material breach of contract. They know this and thus basically give us the ,,\|,, You paying money doesn't mean anything. You were not forced to pay money to enter the beta. And how else do you think all free-to-play games test their micro-transaction system if not putting it into the beta as well? An example: during League Of Legends beta, you could buy characters and runes. And I can assure you that it didn't take the "Beta" label off for one bit. It's apparent you dont know what I am refering to or why. Since your either new or an idiot ill let you off easy. 10 hail marys and 5 clone suicides. Stop sinning and post less
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 166	Posted - 2013.03.05 02:27:00 - [28] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: Free Beers wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. Sorry but internet lawyers are probably not on your side on this one. It's a commercial release and is considered a live game. Who told me this? Why Sony Online Entertainment of course. Even if ccp just changed the wording in the merc pack purchase agreement it doesn't effect merc packs already purchased. It's just like buying a car under 5 year warranty. Then the car company changes all the warranties to 3 year. If you purchased yours under a 5 year you still get a 5 year. So ccp is in breach on contract here. The main thing that is keeping this from meaning anything is that we still get fair use of the aurum we have spent. Hence there is no material breach of contract. They know this and thus basically give us the ,,\|,, You paying money doesn't mean anything. You were not forced to pay money to enter the beta. And how else do you think all free-to-play games test their micro-transaction system if not putting it into the beta as well? An example: during League Of Legends beta, you could buy characters and runes. And I can assure you that it didn't take the "Beta" label off for one bit. It's apparent you dont know what I am refering to or why. Since your either new or an idiot ill let you off easy. 10 hail marys and 5 clone suicides. Stop sinning and post less Well, it appears that posting less here might help, since you can't continue the argument and resort to insults...
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 428	Posted - 2013.03.05 04:29:00 - [29] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: We are released. Sorry to burst your bubble. When the 'Beta - Work in progress' stamp disappears I'll think about agreeing with you. Money spent is permanent. The beta label is just a shield from reviews. What is YOUR definition of release? Mine would be release 1.0 - if the core mechanics aren't slick and polished by then imma gonna have rotten worms churnin' in my belly. I don't even care about features, I'm letting CCP off real easy here - quality core gameplay is all i'm looking for with release 1.0 What makes it so agonizing is that we are semi released in the sense that there will be no sp reset and now we're married to the grind. But still, i know those devs are working like dogs, I know CCP, and i know i can take the beta-testing pain. As far as the money goes, i'm a big boy and am happy living with my decisions. What gives me (rational)hope is remembering how big the iteration was for core mechanics with this build - if CCP can iterate like that again in April(or whenever the hell it is) then I'd say DUST is beginning to put down solid foundations.


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