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Michael221987
Lost-Legion
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:07:00 -
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I'm having problems with not getting medic points for healing, before these last two hotfixes that were put in I was getting 25 points thats without a defend order and 30 points with a defend order then after so many points I was getting a 30 second penalty then I could do it all again, then we had the two fixes and now I'm not getting anything for it, I really need this bug fixed cause I rely on these medic points cause it accounts for 75% of my SP per battle. Am I the only one that is having problems with this, if there are any other Mercs having this same problem please add on to this thread. |
sgt frig ganders
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.03.01 14:47:00 -
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I notice that i have that but too... sometimes when i 1st get into battle i am healing people and i havent go a single WP yet so i know i am not triage capped. and i dont get anything for repping people. |
James TrendalI
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.03.01 15:00:00 -
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I have had this problem also.
It seems that if you rep someone you get a 50-50 chance of getting points. this does need to be fixed asap for all logi's
Without logi's all other mercs are helpless |
Cade Orion
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.01 18:51:00 -
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I've noticed this too, but also before the latest patch this was happening for me. I'd spawn someone would be hurt I'd triage and get no points. Most of the time I'm thinking "maybe they hurt themselves and that's why". But it could also be very well a glitch. I'm pure Logi so anything that effects my points gain - such as this sux!! and should be fixed right away. |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.03.02 11:46:00 -
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There is a timer related to Damage and Triage. It appears to me, without having it explained by the Devs ever, that healing someone directly after they receive damage will get the +25 triage points. And doing the Triage while they are under fire will net you +35 Guardian WP.
Wait some non-explained amount of time and you won't receive any. If they take additional damage you generally will. I was repping my Heavy and turned aside to rep some Blue close by that was very low. I received nothing for the Blue and nothing else from my Heavy when I finish repping him back to full armor.
The reason behind some of these restrictions is because there were exploits for WP farming regarding causing damage and getting WP for fixing it. With LAVs and Installations was my understanding. Now there is no way to fix an Installation that I know of. However, it would make for better battles as a Logi Bro could go rebuild a Turret or Supply Depot that has been damaged possibly turning the tide of the battle. Personally, I don't need points for Repping HAVs, LAVs or Installations. I would rather have the ability versus blocking it as an ugly fix for exploits. |
RINON114
B.S.A.A.
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Posted - 2013.03.04 17:42:00 -
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I think guardian is if the person gets a kill while you heal them? I've had it that way anyhow.
Also, yes. Yes I do get this problem and it's annoying as hell. With my lag issues I find that I can never get a clean kill so I play medic instead but because the points kind of do or don't happen I don't really want to play at all. Sometimes I get points straight away for a heal, most of the time I get nothing. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
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Posted - 2013.03.04 18:08:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:...Now there is no way to fix an Installation that I know of. However, it would make for better battles as a Logi Bro could go rebuild a Turret or Supply Depot that has been damaged possibly turning the tide of the battle. Personally, I don't need points for Repping HAVs, LAVs or Installations. I would rather have the ability versus blocking it as an ugly fix for exploits.
You can repair installations, supply depots, etc, you just don't get points. It is pretty hard to do with a militia repair tool but I believe you can do it. With a flux repair (lvl 2) you just go up to it and look up at the center, move the lock on around a bit till you get a lock. The heal point is in the middle of the structure.
The limit on heal points per unknown time frame (I think it per 2-3 minutes) is a limit to keep logis within the same wp frame as an assault that kills and it works pretty nicely so far. I would prefer a system where you always get a return but it is more diminishing returns overtime.
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Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
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Posted - 2013.03.04 18:16:00 -
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I do know that guardian points comes from repping someone while they get a kill, even through orbital strikes. |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.03.04 18:22:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:even through orbital strikes.
Oh, exploitable! |
Howling Witch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.04 18:30:00 -
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ya I am having this problem to.  |
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KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.03.04 19:01:00 -
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Howling Witch wrote:ya I am having this problem to. Did you even try to read the comments After the OP?
We explained the situation and others even added to my understanding as well.
For Future Reference:
First read OP.
Next Read replies as Mercs will actually try to help as well as complain.
Then if your situation is Not explained add to the thread.
Remove Evil face when proving that you did not read the replies. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
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Posted - 2013.03.04 19:39:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:even through orbital strikes. Oh, exploitable!
Yep, technically I think you could possibly get 1600 points from a single orbital strike. Not sure if you can have more than one person getting guardian points though. If so you could potentially just chain them... |
Michael221987
Lost-Legion
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Posted - 2013.03.04 21:31:00 -
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Well that's refreshing to know I'm not the only logo that relies on triage point but do get a kill every so often that is when I see an opportunity, I think CCP should look into this and see if it is a problem on them on there end or explain there terms and conditions for triage and Guardian points. |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 04:43:00 -
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Keeping soldiers alive is as important as killing the enemy in combat. Assault all cry if logis get too many wp's, but us logi's don't cry when assualt rack up kills. I should not be punished for choosing to play as a medic, because that what diminishing returns does to me. It tells me " ok enough helping others out by healing and go farm kills and ignore your buddies needs or how you want to play the game". The cap needs to go away, let us have our WP board, you have your kills. People would cry so hard if they put the same rules on kill WP's as healing has. |
RINON114
B.S.A.A.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 04:45:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Howling Witch wrote:ya I am having this problem to. Did you even try to read the comments After the OP? We explained the situation and others even added to my understanding as well. For Future Reference: First read OP. Next Read replies as Mercs will actually try to help as well as complain. Then if your situation is Not explained add to the thread. Remove Evil face when proving that you did not read the replies.
I think the point they are making is the same as OP's and also mine. We understand that there is a time restraint on WP's for triage but the point here is that sometimes you don't get points at all and sometimes you do.
I have joined matches and spawned in on a heavily contested CRU and instantly began repping people and received no points, similarly I have been in matches for extended periods of time and found someone in need of repairs and still not received points. This applies on the flipside too where the exact same thing has happened and I have received points. |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.06 11:09:00 -
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bumping due to the fact logi issues get looked over to easy because we make up only a small part of the community. Lets keep it alive people. |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.03.06 11:48:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:...Now there is no way to fix an Installation that I know of. You can repair installations, supply depots, etc, you just don't get points. It is pretty hard to do with a militia repair tool but I believe you can do it. With a flux repair (lvl 2) you just go up to it and look up at the center, move the lock on around a bit till you get a lock. The heal point is in the middle of the structure. Thanks for the correction.
I find that the center near the bottom will work. Also, I could not seem to get it restarted once I get it fairly high. That is most likely me but who knows. At least I got a CRU at 3800 Armor back to 26K. The Reds had been pushed back so baby sitting that was fine by me. Fixing Turrets and Supply Depots are significantly quicker.
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