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Mazz Dover
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:34:00 -
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Anyone that plays a heavy will have noticed a drastic reduction in the range of their favorite HMG(roughly 25-30% in my estimates). It sickens me to think of the SP I have sank into heavy weapon sharpshooter so I can hit/kill people at long range and now killing someone at 40m is a task. These are the kind of things that will make it so no one wants to play this game. I have over 3.5M SP wrapped up in the heavy class between the dropsuits that ARs tear through now and the nerfed HMGs, I feel I need some lube and a kiss... or at least dinner and a movie. CCP if you're making a change that will dramaticly affect a class a little heads up would be nice. Should have stuck with logi.... |
Honda Element
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:36:00 -
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HTFU |
Kane Fyea
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:37:00 -
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Mazz Dover wrote: Should have stuck with logi....
Yup you should've. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
454
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:41:00 -
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Mazz Dover wrote:Anyone that plays a heavy will have noticed a drastic reduction in the range of their favorite HMG(roughly 25-30% in my estimates). It sickens me to think of the SP I have sank into heavy weapon sharpshooter so I can hit/kill people at long range and now killing someone at 40m is a task. These are the kind of things that will make it so no one wants to play this game. I have over 3.5M SP wrapped up in the heavy class between the dropsuits that ARs tear through now and the nerfed HMGs, I feel I need some lube and a kiss... or at least dinner and a movie. CCP if you're making a change that will dramaticly affect a class a little heads up would be nice. Should have stuck with logi....
Ooh what an HMG can kill close up and 40m's is a task???
Bout time. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
423
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:45:00 -
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I haven't noticed a difference. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.28 00:57:00 -
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Stick to CQC, easy. You still rule there.  |
James Thraxton
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.02.28 01:32:00 -
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haven't noticed the nerfbat on them yet, thought i felt more spread and less dps at greater range, but all the AUR proto's kept trying to roflstomp me |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
675
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Posted - 2013.02.28 01:38:00 -
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Nothing's changed about it. Don't know what game you've been playing. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.28 01:41:00 -
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It's not your HMG; blueberries be strafing yo! |
trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
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Posted - 2013.02.28 01:41:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Nothing's changed about it. Don't know what game you've been playing.
All of the good players who cap out for the week and drop off after the first day or two are playing today, and he's getting rofl-stomped and feels he needs to pin the blame somewhere other than on his gun game. Or at least that's how it looks.
CCP, care to share whether or not you nerfed the range? |
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.28 02:14:00 -
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I feel the same for laser, since last wed |
Brigitte Newt
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
25
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:57:00 -
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I dont see the difference in my HMG. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:20:00 -
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I WILL WRITE IN CAPS  TO ALL THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT HMG RANGE:
2 DYAS AGO HEAVY/HMG - DISTANCE 57 m- SHREAD MY SHIELDS (HEAVY TYPE-II 400HP-SHIELD ) WITH NO PROBLEM
CLEAR DAY (NO RAINNING)
HMG/HEAVY WITH HALF COVER - STANDING (NOT BOOSTED FROM 'SNIPING')
I MIDDLE OF STREET.
SO BS.
GET YOUR SKILL. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:01:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:I WILL WRITE IN CAPS TO ALL THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT HMG RANGE: 2 DYAS AGO HEAVY/HMG - DISTANCE 57 m- SHREAD MY SHIELDS (HEAVY TYPE-II 400HP-SHIELD ) WITH NO PROBLEM CLEAR DAY (NO RAINNING) HMG/HEAVY WITH HALF COVER - STANDING (NOT BOOSTED FROM 'SNIPING') I MIDDLE OF STREET. SO BS. GET YOUR SKILL.
You sure it was clear, not even a bit of DUST in the air?  |
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Acturus Galaxy
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:16:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:I WILL WRITE IN CAPS TO ALL THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT HMG RANGE: 2 DYAS AGO HEAVY/HMG - DISTANCE 57 m- SHREAD MY SHIELDS (HEAVY TYPE-II 400HP-SHIELD ) WITH NO PROBLEM CLEAR DAY (NO RAINNING) HMG/HEAVY WITH HALF COVER - STANDING (NOT BOOSTED FROM 'SNIPING') I MIDDLE OF STREET. SO BS. GET YOUR SKILL.
I play a Heavy specialized in Forge guns with level one HMG as supplement to the close quarter combat areas. I can say the same with Assault GEK players, they can hit me from greater distances than my HMG can reach and my 800+HP is gone within 1-2 seconds being shot by assaults players far away. My heavy sharpshooter skill is only level 1.
I find it close to impossible to hit all those jumping assault rabbits in my big heavy suit and the extra armor does sadly only delay my doom another second. I do not complain or give up even though it costs me all my ISK to at least slay one overhyped, overactive jumping target. If you would just stand still for a few seconds for my HMG to become precise enough 
Wish I could jump in my big heavy suit and land on the shotgun scouts to squish them as they are running in circles around me and making me dizzy. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
196
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:30:00 -
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Skils are make huge difference.
Start skils (any) at level 1 .. is not enough. - here ppl complain about underpowered things.
At level 3 you can feel what you do (range.. reload.. ammo... dmg, anything)
At level 4-5 you can be beast... and ppl start topics about OP.
This is clear example what ppl see things in this topics. Not enough/too much problem.
For me 57m with HMG that do efective dmg is ... little to much. But it is only my opinion.
But I never agree that HMG for now are underpowered in range for close combat weapon.
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Freshticles
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
10
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:39:00 -
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Simple solution: Six Kin Burst HMG
Enjoy your 1300 DPS.
EDIT: Also I feel no nerf. |
PAs Capone
G I A N T
8
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:49:00 -
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I feel no nerf bat. What you could be experiencing is latency from your movement to their movement. Causing hit box issues. I was noticing more of that being the reason I couldnt hit anything while I was trying for longer range targets.
Solution to that is to play the role and squad up, stay in your area, and blast those who are daring enough to test your skills. If you are getting blasted by long range, you dont have enough cover to help your squad effectively. Communicate in the game, change your tactics, but always stick to what your suit does best. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
189
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:08:00 -
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I could have sqorn that somebody said the same thing a few days ago for the last hotfix for battle servers... Nothing was confirmed and it can only get so short.
I've noticed that there seems to be different experience levels on at different periods throughout the week. Maybe the grinders and above average players were on last night making your job harder. |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:15:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:
All of the good players who cap out for the week and drop off after the first day or two are playing today, and he's getting rofl-stomped and feels he needs to pin the blame somewhere other than on his gun game. Or at least that's how it looks.
CCP, care to share whether or not you nerfed the range?
Most likely this and the fact that blueberries have been buffing themselve over the past month playing this game. They won't stand there eating your bullets anymore |
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Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
107
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:14:00 -
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there is no difference what so ever, the range is still the same, did you change your HMG? |
Geth Massredux
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:23:00 -
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If to want long range go for assault heavy machine gun. I doubt the skills like sharpshooter take effect. At least not yet. Seriously though go for assault hmg. Less damage at close range but increased damage long range.
Ps. We hate nerf threads. HTFU |
Tal Yamin
BetaMax.
7
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:37:00 -
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OP - Funny you say that - I've been thinking the same - something suddenly changed last couple of days.
I'm not sure it's range but I have Sharpshooter L3 or L4, my feeling was that dispersion/accuracy/kick (call it what you will) had been tampered with using the good old size 9 nerf bat.
Now it feels somewhat futile spooling up the old girl for anything more than 25m away just alerts them to my presence rather than does any meaningful damage. This continues throughout the advertised spool up inaccuracy right though to overheat, even on the boundless.
Either way, would be awesome to know if something actually changed - just for my sanity and to stop becoming a QQ'ing nerf thread participant. Oh, wait - too late.  |
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