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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:07:00 -
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It seems like you completely run out of ammo way too quickly in this game. You're constantly reloading after every kill and it's impossible to survive without a nanohive on you.
CCP looked at other FPS games and tried to mimic their ammo count. There's a problem with this though: In other shooters it often takes only a handful of hits to kill somebody, generally between 3-6 bullets. In Dust 514 it can take nearly half a clip to kill a player (that's with 100% accuracy). In popular FPS titles like Killzone, MAG, COD, and Halo, you can kill half a dozen players with a single clip. In this game you can kill maybe 2, maybe even 3 players max if you're lucky. You don't even get that many clips so you end up constantly having to resupply with a nanohive.
I believe the constant reloading/resupplying is contributing to Dust's slow and awkward gameplay. Increase clip size and ammo count across the board. Or significantly increase reload speed. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:12:00 -
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I have no problem with it, not everyone survives as long as you do. It gives supply depots and nanohives a reason to exist.
KZ3 has terrible ammo supplies, runs out much faster than Dust's. |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:16:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I have no problem with it, not everyone survives as long as you do. It gives supply depots and nanohives a reason to exist.
KZ3 has terrible ammo supplies, runs out much faster than Dust's.
To give you an idea of how much time reloading takes up in this game, over half my gameplay's default video thumbnails are images of me in the middle of the reload animation.
Significantly increasing the speed of the reload animation would also help with the clip size problem. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:23:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I have no problem with it, not everyone survives as long as you do. It gives supply depots and nanohives a reason to exist.
KZ3 has terrible ammo supplies, runs out much faster than Dust's. To give you an idea of how much time reloading takes up in this game, over half my gameplay's default video thumbnails are images of me in the middle of the reload animation. Significantly increasing the speed of the reload animation would also help with the clip size problem.
I would like faster reloading as well. The default speed of reloading s way too slow compared to most shooters. |
Thumb Green
Starship Troppers
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:23:00 -
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Sometimes I wish the ammo count was higher so I didn't have to rely on nanohives; but then again what would be the point of nanohives if you didn't have to rely on them? |
Terry Webber
Gothic Wars Consortium
35
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:31:00 -
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I'm OK with the ammo count too. Gives the nanohives and supply depots a reason to exist. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:44:00 -
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So has there been a single feature in the game you haven't complained about?
Besides assault rifles and assault suits.
Dude if the game angers you that much maybe it's time to find something that doesn't hit all of your rage buttons. |
Tiluvo
Digital Mercs
6
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Posted - 2013.02.26 06:28:00 -
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Weapon capacity skill gives extra ammo. Lots of things can be increased with the right skills. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
220
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Posted - 2013.02.26 10:01:00 -
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It sounds like you're complaining more of clip/magazine size than ammo count, which implies total ammo capacity.
And you're complaint is really a personal gripe most likely due to your ability or style of playing. It may take you half a mag to kill one person but for others it's a lot less and they reload a lot less often as a result. Also, if you level up and use the higher tier weapons, you'll quickly be doing more damage and killing people faster. Finally, if you're using militia gear, they all have far smaller mags/clips than non-militia. |
J Lav
Lost-Legion
28
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Posted - 2013.02.26 13:16:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:It sounds like you're complaining more of clip/magazine size than ammo count, which implies total ammo capacity.
And you're complaint is really a personal gripe most likely due to your ability or style of playing. It may take you half a mag to kill one person but for others it's a lot less and they reload a lot less often as a result. Also, if you level up and use the higher tier weapons, you'll quickly be doing more damage and killing people faster. Finally, if you're using militia gear, they all have far smaller mags/clips than non-militia.
You need to watch his gameplay videos MoeJoe kills faster than 99% of players in this game. He has a valid complaint, though I think it's more reflectant of the insane amounts of health in this game, or damage dealt than the clip size.
I've hit guys with 40+ rounds out of my smg and not gotten through their shields. |
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Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.26 13:57:00 -
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If its ammo clip size/shots needed to kill you are complaining about, I see what he means. However by making it BF3 damage mechanics (if thats what you are implying) then the balancing of all the guns across the board would have to happen. Its would be like the closed beta all over again.
Im not saying its a bad idea, its just that it completely alters game mechanics, thus would require significant work in rebalancing.
Though I really do wish there would be a skill that increased clip size, would be nice.
And yes we do need nanohives, even with the weapon capacity skills. Thats what Logibros are for, dont take away their role ingame. |
RoundEy3
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.02.26 14:07:00 -
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Actually I've always been surprised how much I can run around with a free fit and shoot all sorts of ****. Then about the time I'm feeling I should be low on ammo I look to see I still have a few mags worth the ammo still there
Really logistics guys need to keep their place, current ammo count seems more than fair.
If the game were as intuitive as it's futuristic setting there would be a calculation based off of you kdr to see how much ammo your soon to be dead clone would be allotted as not to waste manufactured goods on an improbable unit |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2013.02.26 14:13:00 -
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This is, like, a textbook example of complain-bragging. "Guys, I kill so many people before getting taken out that I have to reload a lot!"
My sympathy level is not terribly high. |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
266
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Posted - 2013.02.26 14:23:00 -
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Reload speed! There is a skill for that.
Ammo capacity! There is a skill for that.
Damage! There are several skills for that.
Basically you are QQing that you dont have have the hmgs magazine on the ar. That is silly and not going to happen you may once weapon modding is in game be able to have larger clips.
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Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
319
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Posted - 2013.02.26 14:28:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:Reload speed! There is a skill for that.
Ammo capacity! There is a skill for that.
Damage! There are several skills for that.
Basically you are QQing that you dont have have the hmgs magazine on the ar. That is silly and not going to happen you may once weapon modding is in game be able to have larger clips.
This ^^
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XXfootnoteXX
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
76
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Posted - 2013.02.26 15:19:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:Reload speed! There is a skill for that.
Ammo capacity! There is a skill for that.
Damage! There are several skills for that.
Basically you are QQing that you dont have have the hmgs magazine on the ar. That is silly and not going to happen you may once weapon modding is in game be able to have larger clips.
+1ed. |
James Thraxton
The Exemplars
75
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Posted - 2013.02.26 17:21:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:Reload speed! There is a skill for that.
Ammo capacity! There is a skill for that.
Damage! There are several skills for that.
Basically you are QQing that you dont have have the hmgs magazine on the ar. That is silly and not going to happen you may once weapon modding is in game be able to have larger clips.
thank you, I'd have just trolled them for their noobishness, this is more rational |
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