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Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.02.22 02:17:00 -
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So OP is saying he will burn down his PS3 when PS4 comes out and never use it again and never stream DUST on PS4... Interesting. |
XXfootnoteXX
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
76
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Posted - 2013.02.22 04:36:00 -
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Man you all need to learn to read sarcasm. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.22 04:46:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Man you all need to learn to read sarcasm.
You're on the internet bro
Firestorm, go back to CoD then.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.22 04:53:00 -
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Dear Beta Testers,
Thanks for helping us turn Dust 514 into an amazing game. We''ll be shutting down the PS3 servers and officially releasing the game on the 360. Thank you for all your contributions.
How does that sound? |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
675
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Posted - 2013.02.22 07:23:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Dear Beta Testers,
Thanks for helping us turn Dust 514 into an amazing game. We''ll be shutting down the PS3 servers and officially releasing the game on the 360. Thank you for all your contributions.
How does that sound?
Lmao you f***er  |
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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
761
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Posted - 2013.02.22 08:38:00 -
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Deleted some trolling from this thread. |
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Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:30:00 -
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I can't see one single intelligent reason why CCP will want to do that.
- Free to Play games success rate, is directly linked to how many people plays the game.
- The full game so far is been develop for the PS3.
- Only a small percentage of people buys a console in the release date, most people waits about a year for more / better games, or feedback about how good / bad the console is.
- Most hardcore gamer's will NEVER throw away the previous generation console. ( I still playing PS1, and PS2 games even to day )
If anything CCP, wants to get their game across as many platforms is possible, PC, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox 720.... and so on. Why restrict the game only to the PS4 ? horrible marketing strategy. |
Washlee
UnReaL.
131
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:17:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:Ps3 launch is already slated for late summer, why not wait another three months?
The potential for this game is incredible and a ten year plan will be hindered and constrained for th benefit of three months of "profit". Just make the launch for ps4 and it will give you mor time to improve the game since its pretty obvious you guys don't have the staff to have this thing in good shap by the summer
Porting unreal3 to unreal4 should be an easy task and you won't have to limit all the features you want to add because a portion of your playerbase is limited by an older system. Unless you seperate your ps3 and ps4 servers and undo the single shard aspect of this game , you will never be able to add things like bullet drop(projectiles) , more content, bigger and more detailed maps, and larger player counts. These are just a few things that will always be limited by the ps3
Apprently they are going to port dust to the ps4 |
Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:50:00 -
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Washlee wrote:Apprently they are going to port dust to the ps4
Yep everything i read suggest, that Dust 514 will be ported to the PS3, PS4, and PC.
The other thing is : why people thinks that the PS3 won't cope with Dust 514 ? PS3 is a very good machine.
Look at " DC Universe Online " that is a MMORPG, and they coping just fine. |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
47
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:51:00 -
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It's most probably gonna stick to PS3 regardless what people want for the fact of we all been playing on now via PS3, if the game was cancled on this and then brought to PS4 Dust would lose a massive portion of the current player community for many reasons, the most obvious will be how many people are gonna get the PS4 as soon as it comes out? Theres no actual way the population would increase, it may return to how it is now months later but how many players will be pissed off due toeh change?
"Hey you been playing Dust for awhile now, put time into, however now that all means nothing unless you get a PS4"
I can see that going down well with players. |
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Imp Smash
On The Brink
51
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:05:00 -
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They have said it will be on both. This just means a larger audience of players can play dust.you can go back to beta testin the game now. |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:42:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:It's most probably gonna stick to PS3 regardless what people want for the fact of we all been playing on now via PS3, if the game was cancled on this and then brought to PS4 Dust would lose a massive portion of the current player community for many reasons, the most obvious will be how many people are gonna get the PS4 as soon as it comes out? Theres no actual way the population would increase, it may return to how it is now months later but how many players will be pissed off due toeh change?
"Hey you been playing Dust for awhile now, put time into, however now that all means nothing unless you get a PS4"
I can see that going down well with players.
Just have the accounts transfer, wouldn't be hard. |
Naustradamus Oracle
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:43:00 -
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I imagine that CCP will do the same to Dust as Square -Enix (back when they were good) supported FFXI on PC PS2 and 360.
For initial release, Dust will be ported to PS4 and support high resolution, better framerate, etc. but will be all in all, same game as Ps3 version, and future updates and features will continue on both.
Nothing against PS3 only owners (I will be getting a PS4 as soon as possible) but I do home that CCP doesn't take to long before they perform the switch. Dust 514 as it stands is a immense project to accomplish, and though the game is running on PS3, I can't help but feel that for it to reach it's full potential, the PS3 is simply to limited.
Now I'm not saying that it's release to PS3 was a flawed concept, they do need to start with placing background systems in place like connecting the game to singularity, balancing of weapons armor etc, orbital bombardment, etc
There was a lot of things the current version is able to accomplish both for the game and for eve connectivity systems.
But imagining Dust on PS4 ... 1080p, 60 fps ... blowing up structures with remaining debris, view distance stretched out to the entire map (though I hope snipers range don't change. To hell with Battle fields 1km away kills) ... It is something I'd like to see into fruition, and more (those are only the first things to come to mind, I'm sure much more can be done).
I'm sure CCP will talk more about their plans in the future months as more info about PS4 and its launch |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:44:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:They have said it will be on both. This just means a larger audience of players can play dust.you can go back to beta testin the game now.
a larger audience would get to play a forever limited version of the game. I'd prefer to have destructable structures and terrain later, but that would not be possible if they kept it on PS3. |
Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:00:00 -
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I really don't understand, why you guys are so obsess about this ..........
Free to Play games are design to appeal to the biggest amount of people as possible, that is the way is been for YEARS. You asking CCP to do the complete opposite, so you can satisfy your urges to feel " Special ", or superior than any one else.
Is like saying ;
I going to buy a Ferrari on few months time, so only "ME" should be allow to buy petrol, and use roads... because i'm a spoiled brat. |
Freyar Tarkin
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:05:00 -
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Frankly, the framerate and texture quality is bothersome. Don't think it's a good idea to set DUST up for PS4 exclusivity, especially since a lot of work was already put into the PS3 build as it is.
That said.. my interest in the PS4 has risen with the notion of DUST having a release on there. Precious, precious framerate. |
ElitePixelEnemy
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2013.04.08 02:59:00 -
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MMMM PS4 |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
326
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Posted - 2013.04.08 03:15:00 -
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Porting to a PC using UnReal Engine will be even easier when the game is running on UnReal on the PS4 (which is a half speed PC). This leaves an easy venue for CCP to move if Sony decides to not continue the Exclusive agreement they current have.
And, a lot of DUST players come from EVE. They had to get a PS3 to access the Beta. If it moves to PC then even more EVE players already have the equipment to play DUST without buying anything new at all.
I am not buying a PS4 and many PS3 owners aren't as well. Sony promised the moon and the stars when the PS3 was released. Many games never saw the light of day and features were constantly removed to make it affordable and profitable. I will not consider buying one until it is out, debugged and no Yellow Ring Of Death or such has reared its ugly head.
Let's see how this plays out.
You, Kitten, can buy your PS4 and play Uncharted (some random number) until then. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
881
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Posted - 2013.04.08 06:31:00 -
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-1 (or maybe 10) to the OP
This idea is in contention for the last thing I ever want to see happen to D514. In fact I am strongly against the concept of Dust ever being a PS4 exclusive. If it ever leaves the PS3 exclusive stage it should either still support the PS3 or open up to PC gaming at minimum. Being forced to buy a new console to play Dust is one of the very few things that would make me walk away from the game.
~Cross |
Rekon Syport
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
9
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Posted - 2013.04.08 07:28:00 -
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You are missing Sony's business model. Sony WILL support an outgoing system for 3 years after the release of a new system. It's smart business on so many levels I could write a 10 page paper on it and not get it all. Simply, there will not be enough PS4's playing DUST than PS3 for CCP to make money off of for another 2-3 years from PS4 release. PS3 is here for some time and will continue to be a money tool while building and perfecting PS4 integration. At the same time you talk of PS4 being a longer life for the game. SONY also has challenged any competitor and told it's users, expect a 6(ish) year run on every system so you know what you are getting. 9 years of gaming, 6 years for testing and releasing the next best thing. This saves from being a Sega and trying to rush and beat people to the punch and being outdone a year later with under developed tech. . Sony will not get into a race with ANYONE. Either way, Dust will have a designated life span on ANY Sony system regardless so it really doesn't matter.
And I just have to say. . . GAIKAI is genius but it's a cloud, thus also it is a goal and NOT a Promise and they made sure they made that known. PS3 and PS4 ARE NOT COMPATIBLE. Don't confuse that with cloud gaming, which is a goal and not expected to have any real results in retro system gaming of any major impact any time soon after release. The great thing is Cloud gaming allows for silly people to stop worrying about backwards compatability while nickel and diming you for old game titles. Extra revenue. Compatability is a dumb feature to put weight into, especially from here on out in gaming. In fact you will probably see them take a business approach and resell those older libraries like Ninitendo does and you will repay 4 bucks for FFVII on your PS4 rather than dust off your older system and play for free. . . . . sucker.
Personally I own the previous system so why do I care about compatability? It's a money pit for companies to cater too, and Sony is trying hard to get out from under it as is everybody else. BEHOLD THE CLOUD.
Sorry this got . . detailed. Small focused thinking blows my mind. Stop looking for details and grasp the concepts and apply accordingly.
TLDR:
The CONCEPT of this thread is moot by Sony's structured thinking alone. And they deserve KUDOS for it. |
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Angus McBeanie
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
16
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Posted - 2013.04.08 07:31:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:Ps3 launch is already slated for late summer, why not wait another three months?
The potential for this game is incredible and a ten year plan will be hindered and constrained for th benefit of three months of "profit". Just make the launch for ps4 and it will give you mor time to improve the game since its pretty obvious you guys don't have the staff to have this thing in good shap by the summer
Porting unreal3 to unreal4 should be an easy task and you won't have to limit all the features you want to add because a portion of your playerbase is limited by an older system. Unless you seperate your ps3 and ps4 servers and undo the single shard aspect of this game , you will never be able to add things like bullet drop(projectiles) , more content, bigger and more detailed maps, and larger player counts. These are just a few things that will always be limited by the ps3
In a few years, maybe ye. Now? No. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.04.09 18:32:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:SSBBW Amber wrote:Um because not everyone is going to run out and buy a PS4. So CCP shoulders cater to you because you don't have money? Seems like a bad argument.
What does that have to do with anything? People have phones, computers and tablets for social interaction. Those that live stream often will buy one so they can use their computer while gaming to keep track of everything with room to spare, rather than keep track of everything AND live stream. Sometimes people get angry and throw controllers. The price of the DS4 is obviously going to be more than the DS3. I've gone through a few hundred on DS2 controllers when playing SOCOM, and I already have a few broken DS3 controllers in a bag, mostly for parts.
Why should so many thousands get screwed over just because you want Dust to be PS4-only? |
Jayquan18
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
48
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Posted - 2013.04.09 20:41:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Dear Beta Testers,
Thanks for helping us turn Dust 514 into an amazing game. We''ll be shutting down the PS3 servers and officially releasing the game on the 360. Thank you for all your contributions.
How does that sound?
I would LMAO if i saw this. |
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