DUST Search - What does PS4 mean for Dust?

Arrant Leet wrote:

Shadowswipe wrote:

It means nothing. When the game gets to a more finished state with all the backend tech working as they want. The will eventually be able to support patched to both PS3 and PS4. The life span of PS3 is more than long enough for DUST to live through the growing pains of PS4 and the market share shift. Do not fear, DUST 514 will be around for a very long time to come.

I don't disagree with that, but my point is is that this game runs off of micro transactions. We need some concrete statements from the developers, no more soontm. Every post says "this game could be great" "This game has the potential" but the truth is is that as of right now it's nothing. There's honestly no time to sit around and be patient, CCP has to stop selling pipe dreams. I wanna see some content. The people who played in the closed beta said that this beta isn't even much different. In the podcast they said they want to bump the player count to 24vs24...and I'm thinking if this game could even handle that. 2v2 shootouts generally end in framerate drops, and not a lot of people are really calling in vehicles in public matches as of right now, so I can only imagine the chaos.

Everyone wants to say "it's a beta" well then I'm never going to put a dime into this game because I shouldn't have to pay for a "beta." But I have put money into free to play games that I feel were worth it.

Also, you're saying this game could look better, this game could be on PS4 eventually...and yea that's true if this was the only game ever going to be made, but there's other shooters coming out and people are going to jump ship eventually.

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Arrant Leet Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 28	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:33:00 - [1] - Quote Honestly, it's pretty much a death sentence. I'm pretty sure I heard about Dust in 2009 at E3. The BETA hasn't come out until 2013..that's around FOUR years. Now you could argue that this game is advanced conceptually and it takes a while to make a game of this caliber, but as of TODAY, all we really have is a sub-30FPS, PS2 graphics, capture and hold shooter. I don't know what they are spending their time on, but the game is technically HORRIFICALLY outdated. What took so much time? The maps are 80% barren wasteland, I don't get it. Everything that's promised in Dust sounds amazing, but right now I don't see this game being anything big now that the PS4 is around the corner. We have Bungie making Destiny which is a similar concept (ever changing FPS world) and they're just going to do it technically better. We need announcements from the developers on what the future of this game is. Sony doesn't really seem to give two craps about the game, you'd think they would promote the open beta on twitter or something. I don't see coverage on IGN or anything. It's also funny because SOE also makes Planetside 2 which is also similar to Dust. The one thing Dust has is this connectivity with Eve, but as of right now it's just a pipe dream. The closest thing I ever get to connecting with Eve is calling a Precision Strike (which is no different than a air strike in COD) and then I don't even know if it's someone from Eve doing it. I want to hear from CCP, I want to be marketed to. I wanna know why this game is worth the AUR. I'm down to play Dust seriously, but I'll only take it as seriously as CCP does. Launching a beta and going on vacation is not taking it seriously. I know you guys are working hard, but there's bigger and better developers working HARDER. It seems like CCP has every feature at 50-80% completed, but they should just get their CORE aspects to 100% first. The UI is horrific and it's missing blatant features that the likes of Bungie, Treyarch, Guerrilla Games, would never miss in 100 years. TL;DR PS4 is coming out and it doesn't seem like there's any room or chance of Dust being a massive game with its current technical state. We need to hear from CCP on their future plans, REAL future plans. Not just "one day you'll be able to e-mail someone on EVE!"
Evergreen Strauss Raijinshu 2	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:40:00 - [2] - Quote Ashes to ashes...Dust to...dust?
Shadowswipe WarRavens 13	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:43:00 - [3] - Quote It means nothing. When the game gets to a more finished state with all the backend tech working as they want. They will eventually be able to support patches to both PS3 and PS4. The life span of PS3 is more than long enough for DUST to live through the growing pains of PS4 and the market share shift. Do not fear, DUST 514 will be around for a very long time to come.
Scalesdini Universal Allies Inc. 57	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:46:00 - [4] - Quote You obviously have no idea how much effort goes into developing content for a game, especially not a game with so much complex coding going on behind the scenes like this one. I do, and allow me to say this: You're a nincompoop for this thread. Don't want to buy aurum? Don't buy aurum. Don't want to play Dust? Don't play. You won't be missed. Take the rest of your scrub corp with you while you're at it. See ya scrub.
Arrant Leet Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 28	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:49:00 - [5] - Quote Shadowswipe wrote: It means nothing. When the game gets to a more finished state with all the backend tech working as they want. The will eventually be able to support patched to both PS3 and PS4. The life span of PS3 is more than long enough for DUST to live through the growing pains of PS4 and the market share shift. Do not fear, DUST 514 will be around for a very long time to come. I don't disagree with that, but my point is is that this game runs off of micro transactions. We need some concrete statements from the developers, no more soontm. Every post says "this game could be great" "This game has the potential" but the truth is is that as of right now it's nothing. There's honestly no time to sit around and be patient, CCP has to stop selling pipe dreams. I wanna see some content. The people who played in the closed beta said that this beta isn't even much different. In the podcast they said they want to bump the player count to 24vs24...and I'm thinking if this game could even handle that. 2v2 shootouts generally end in framerate drops, and not a lot of people are really calling in vehicles in public matches as of right now, so I can only imagine the chaos. Everyone wants to say "it's a beta" well then I'm never going to put a dime into this game because I shouldn't have to pay for a "beta." But I have put money into free to play games that I feel were worth it. Also, you're saying this game could look better, this game could be on PS4 eventually...and yea that's true if this was the only game ever going to be made, but there's other shooters coming out and people are going to jump ship eventually.
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 216	Posted - 2013.02.21 15:01:00 - [6] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: Shadowswipe wrote: It means nothing. When the game gets to a more finished state with all the backend tech working as they want. The will eventually be able to support patched to both PS3 and PS4. The life span of PS3 is more than long enough for DUST to live through the growing pains of PS4 and the market share shift. Do not fear, DUST 514 will be around for a very long time to come. I don't disagree with that, but my point is is that this game runs off of micro transactions. We need some concrete statements from the developers, no more soontm. Every post says "this game could be great" "This game has the potential" but the truth is is that as of right now it's nothing. There's honestly no time to sit around and be patient, CCP has to stop selling pipe dreams. I wanna see some content. The people who played in the closed beta said that this beta isn't even much different. In the podcast they said they want to bump the player count to 24vs24...and I'm thinking if this game could even handle that. 2v2 shootouts generally end in framerate drops, and not a lot of people are really calling in vehicles in public matches as of right now, so I can only imagine the chaos. Everyone wants to say "it's a beta" well then I'm never going to put a dime into this game because I shouldn't have to pay for a "beta." But I have put money into free to play games that I feel were worth it. Also, you're saying this game could look better, this game could be on PS4 eventually...and yea that's true if this was the only game ever going to be made, but there's other shooters coming out and people are going to jump ship eventually. So....you're saying that it isn't possible for CCP to improve on Dust with new hardware available and that it isn't possible for this game to progress over time into the developer's future vision? You're also suggesting the Bungie's Destiny is further along in the development cycle as are other persistent shooters? I didn't see anything on Destiny other than screen shots and concerpt art. Personally I'm glad we are getting more games like Dust 514, Destiny and Defiance on consoles. Claiming Dust is dead because others are now following suit is a bit silly though. A game like this will take time to develop new content for and it will be based on the player's actions and needs in game. This is just the beginning....Take a deep breath and enjoy the ride or jump ship and play the next shiny toy that catches your eye. Both are reasonable choices depending on your gaming needs.
Shadowswipe WarRavens 13	Posted - 2013.02.21 15:30:00 - [7] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: Also, you're saying this game could look better, this game could be on PS4 eventually...and yea that's true if this was the only game ever going to be made, but there's other shooters coming out and people are going to jump ship eventually. Tell that to EVE Online players. CCP knows about starting small and ramping up. EVE continues to break the record for concurrent users in a single gaming environment. Year after year, expansion after expansion, they break the record that they have held for many years. This is despite many many many new MMOs being launched each year. Lots of big names too. LOTR, GW2, and The Secret World to name a few. They will do the same thing in the FPS world. Ya people will flock to the next BF or COD when it comes out. But when they find out its just more of the same, they will soon return to DUST. Numbers will grow and shrink with time, but ultimately, if EVE is any indicator, the total users will always be going up over time.


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