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Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:12:00 -
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Let's face it we are all beta testers at the moment right, however is it worth it to be a supportive voice in the forums?
There are so many good thing that I have seen with DUST just as in EVE that I wish CCP would know that it was liked, but does that really do them any good from a dev standpoint? Does knowing what is going right in there development help speed it along? I would think the reason they put the things I love in there games is because they know players or they them self will like it. So short of telling them what we would like to see should we tell them what we like so far?
Does it help them at all to make a better finished game? I could post a CCP love letter every week but it would instantly be drowned in a sea of GÇ£fix thisGÇ¥ and GÇ£this sucks do it betterGÇ¥ threads that I see all the time here. More to the point does all good feed back give them any thing but a warm feeling in the bottom of there hearts?
I'm truly asking because I want to help make Dust unforgettable in the best way possible. So can I do that just by being critical but with out being negative? |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
443
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:15:00 -
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Jack Of Evermore wrote:Let's face it we are all beta testers at the moment right, however is it worth it to be a supportive voice in the forums?
There are so many good thing that I have seen with DUST just as in EVE that I wish CCP would know that it was liked, but does that really do them any good from a dev standpoint? Does knowing what is going right in there development help speed it along? I would think the reason they put the things I love in there games is because they know players or they them self will like it. So short of telling them what we would like to see should we tell them what we like so far?
Does it help them at all to make a better finished game? I could post a CCP love letter every week but it would instantly be drowned in a sea of GÇ£fix thisGÇ¥ and GÇ£this sucks do it betterGÇ¥ threads that I see all the time here. More to the point does all good feed back give them any thing but a warm feeling in the bottom of there hearts?
I'm truly asking because I want to help make Dust unforgettable in the best way possible. So can I do that just by being critical but with out being negative?
Their hearts.
Eve has been about trolling for a long time. Most players in dust are from eve.
However,
If you construct a good enough post with a good argument, just stick too it, expect to be troll'd.
You will have people agree with you, you'll have some disagree with you. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:18:00 -
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Yes. Knowing what is working does help. With any creative endeavor. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:18:00 -
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In my opinion, positive feedback is just as important as negative feedback. Though, I'm sure most game developers expect more negative feedback. Let's face it. If we feel positively about a game, chances are the majority of us are going to shut up about it and play it. At least that's what I usually do. |
Vash- Akura
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:19:00 -
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I would say yes, but constructive criticism is probably the best. Also report bugs and other glitches.
If in a "love letter" you tell them what you do like and what needs attention I would say CCP would respond in a favorable way.
Be respectful and you will be heard, they just might not comment but they do read our posts.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:22:00 -
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There are people who will troll regardless of your attitude, it's best to just ignore them, but if you have good ideas and don't come off as a douchbag, then you will usually find people who agree with you.
Also: It's good to have some positive feedback too, especially with all these QQ threads going around. If the only people who speak up are the people who want nerfs/changes, then that's what we're going to get. |
Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:23:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
Their hearts.
Eve has been about trolling for a long time. Most players in dust are from eve.
However,
If you construct a good enough post with a good argument, just stick too it, expect to be troll'd.
You will have people agree with you, you'll have some disagree with you.
Hell I don't care if people agree with me on anything I just would like to know what gives the developers the best info. |
Rossiya diya Trolley
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:25:00 -
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Jack Of Evermore wrote:Let's face it we are all beta testers at the moment right, however is it worth it to be a supportive voice in the forums?
There are so many good thing that I have seen with DUST just as in EVE that I wish CCP would know that it was liked, but does that really do them any good from a dev standpoint? Does knowing what is going right in there development help speed it along? I would think the reason they put the things I love in there games is because they know players or they them self will like it. So short of telling them what we would like to see should we tell them what we like so far?
Does it help them at all to make a better finished game? I could post a CCP love letter every week but it would instantly be drowned in a sea of GÇ£fix thisGÇ¥ and GÇ£this sucks do it betterGÇ¥ threads that I see all the time here. More to the point does all good feed back give them any thing but a warm feeling in the bottom of there hearts?
I'm truly asking because I want to help make Dust unforgettable in the best way possible. So can I do that just by being critical but with out being negative?
Your corporation is terrible. Shut up now. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:28:00 -
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Jack Of Evermore wrote:
Hell I don't care if people agree with me on anything I just would like to know what gives the developers the best info.
If more people agree with you, then the Devs will be more inclined to listen to your particular opinion. That's why all these nerf threads scare me. I hope the Devs don't actually start listening to them, I'dd hate for Dust to turn into some generic/bland/ pile of poo |
BaD FuRrYV2
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:28:00 -
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Jack Of Evermore wrote:Let's face it we are all beta testers at the moment right, however is it worth it to be a supportive voice in the forums?
There are so many good thing that I have seen with DUST just as in EVE that I wish CCP would know that it was liked, but does that really do them any good from a dev standpoint? Does knowing what is going right in there development help speed it along? I would think the reason they put the things I love in there games is because they know players or they them self will like it. So short of telling them what we would like to see should we tell them what we like so far?
Does it help them at all to make a better finished game? I could post a CCP love letter every week but it would instantly be drowned in a sea of GÇ£fix thisGÇ¥ and GÇ£this sucks do it betterGÇ¥ threads that I see all the time here. More to the point does all good feed back give them any thing but a warm feeling in the bottom of there hearts?
I'm truly asking because I want to help make Dust unforgettable in the best way possible. So can I do that just by being critical but with out being negative?
this is eve "HOW DARE YOU CALL YOUR SELF A HUMAN WITH THAT FIT !" This is dust "HOW DARE YOU JOIN A RANDOM GAME AND KILL ME "
Ahhhh like father like son lovely is it not ? |
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Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:28:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:In my opinion, positive feedback is just as important as negative feedback. Though, I'm sure most game developers expect more negative feedback. Let's face it. If we feel positively about a game, chances are the majority of us are going to shut up about it and play it. At least that's what I usually do.
This is the way things work in life. People are WAY more likely to voice a negative opinion about something, but when they are satisfied with it, they won't think to give positive statements, they'll just use/play/accept it. |
Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:37:00 -
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Veritas Vitae wrote:DigiOps wrote:In my opinion, positive feedback is just as important as negative feedback. Though, I'm sure most game developers expect more negative feedback. Let's face it. If we feel positively about a game, chances are the majority of us are going to shut up about it and play it. At least that's what I usually do. This is the way things work in life. People are WAY more likely to voice a negative opinion about something, but when they are satisfied with it, they won't think to give positive statements, they'll just use/play/accept it.
That's very true and is just human nature I guess and the fact that the loudest voice often wins make me worry that this game will be guided by a bunch of complaints. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:48:00 -
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Rossiya diya Trolley wrote: Your corporation is terrible. Shut up now.
Still using that alt I see. Whats the matter, did you lose your sack? |
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CCP Frame
C C P C C P Alliance
470
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:53:00 -
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We think that there is no such thing as "bad post" as long as it is constructive - and it will always be appreciated. Every day we are looking for both positive and negative feedback - and that is what keeps the game going forward. We read forums constantly - and we know how to recognize and process well written feedback from all of you. :) |
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Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:55:00 -
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Frame can you hint at how Soon (TM) the next update will be released? :) |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:58:00 -
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Veritas Vitae wrote:Frame can you hint at how Soon (TM) the next update will be released? :)
SoonGäó |
Rossiya diya Trolley
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.02.21 06:09:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Rossiya diya Trolley wrote: Your corporation is terrible. Shut up now.
Still using that alt I see. Whats the matter, did you lose your sack?
No its easier, plus this way my real account goes unscaved and i still get to vent while making these ass pirates butthurt. |
Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.21 06:13:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:We think that there is no such thing as "bad post" as long as it is constructive - and it will always be appreciated. Every day we are looking for both positive and negative feedback - and that is what keeps the game going forward. We read forums constantly - and we know how to recognize and process well written feedback from all of you. :)
I don't yet credit myself in the category of people who can produce GÇ£well written feedbackGÇ¥ but IGÇÖm trying to rise above the rank and file who stay silent whether they be satisfied or just complacent. I will however be giving feedback as often as I can. I'm just trying to get a feel for what will be the most beneficial to CCP developers and be as well rounded as possible.
By chance can you tell me what you look for most in the feed back you get? |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.02.21 06:16:00 -
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Jack Of Evermore wrote: I'm truly asking because I want to help make Dust unforgettable in the best way possible. So can I do that just by being critical but with out being negative?
Is this truly the question? I would think we would all want DUST514 to grow as much as possible, and being overly negative would drive people who had courage enough to post - so they'll probably have the courage enough to say the game blows to others. Word of mouth is pretty bad on us already from what I hear.
There's not a lot we can really do other then play the game - alot of us use these forums a lot. I think it should be a responsibility to help guide these idiotic folks, as well as troll them gently. We do it too each other - just don't be so damn negative.
my two isk. |
Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.21 06:17:00 -
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Rossiya diya Trolley wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Rossiya diya Trolley wrote: Your corporation is terrible. Shut up now.
Still using that alt I see. Whats the matter, did you lose your sack? No its easier, plus this way my real account goes unscaved and i still get to vent while making these ass pirates butthurt.
I don't mind, my thread is your thread. Vent away. |
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Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.21 06:29:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Jack Of Evermore wrote: I'm truly asking because I want to help make Dust unforgettable in the best way possible. So can I do that just by being critical but with out being negative?
Is this truly the question? I would think we would all want DUST514 to grow as much as possible, and being overly negative would drive people who had courage enough to post - so they'll probably have the courage enough to say the game blows to others. Word of mouth is pretty bad on us already from what I hear. There's not a lot we can really do other then play the game - alot of us use these forums a lot. I think it should be a responsibility to help guide these idiotic folks, as well as troll them gently. We do it too each other - just don't be so damn negative. my two isk.
The only investment I have with this game so far is IGÇÖve played EVE and liked it and IGÇÖm waiting to see where CCP takes dust until launch. I'm never going to hold back if I don't like something about it but I think I can do a bit better then GÇ£I get killed to often change you gameGÇ¥ I've read to many good ideas in this forum that I hope make it into the GÇ£finishedGÇ¥ game not to try and add to them. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2013.02.21 10:39:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:We think that there is no such thing as "bad post" as long as it is constructive - and it will always be appreciated. Every day we are looking for both positive and negative feedback - and that is what keeps the game going forward. We read forums constantly - and we know how to recognize and process well written feedback from all of you. :) You can take the badest of posts and grind it up, bleach it, then squeeze it into a pink block of text that you can sell as a great delicious feature. |
General John Ripper
Baltar Research
22
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Posted - 2013.02.21 10:42:00 -
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I love you.
Am I being nice enough op? (original poster, not overpowered! change the meaning!) |
Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:21:00 -
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Yes, but was it worth it? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.02.23 12:26:00 -
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Hell no, I've been dealing with idiots since SOCOM. |
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