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CominRound TheMountain
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:39:00 -
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Here are a list of bugs and poorly implemented gameplay as I encountered tonight. These didn't just happen once, they've been constant for this past week, but this new player has finally hit his breaking point.
Disclosure: I'm fully aware this is beta, so your "soon TM" or "it's beta" is pointless as a response.
- Map variety. I played 10 games tonight. Every single one of them I got on Manus Peak. Every single one. Sure you can spice it up with being at daytime or night time or desert, or whatever, but Manus Peak 10 times, is Manus Peak 10 times.
- Inability to reload. Seriously. How am I supposed to shoot people, the "S" in FPS if I can't reload my weapon. That's kind of a gamebreaking bug.
- Unusable fittings. I exit the game, come back in, all my fittings are broke. If you don't check them (as I have learned to do now because they break at least once a day) then you go into a game, and can't spawn immediately because all your fittings are broke, and while your team is running out to cap stuff, or your enemies are trying to attack you, you have to sit there and fix all your fittings. You can fix the dropsuits with a bit of work, but if you don't have a spare LAV part, you cannot fix the starter LAVs, so you're basically SOL.
- I have no hands. I'm not sure why. I have no hands. I honestly haven't even ever seen them once. Do they exist outside of your merc quarter? If this isn't a bug, and is indeed a feature, then this is odd to have just a pistol floating in mid air, or while you run.
- Push to talk. This is an option, yet doesn't work even remotely close to 20%? Really? Why not just not have the option?
- Matchmaking system. Find it really hard to believe that the solution to pitting veteran squads (most of the time multiple veteran squads) is to just remove randoms from being in their own squads. Come on CCP, figure it out. New players have absolutely NO chance against veterans in the current state. It's not fun for new players, it's not fun for veterans. It makes people resort to sniping from the redline. How is that fun for anyone?
- Tanks. This goes with my above point a bit, but new players in starter fit Anti-Vehicle cannot take out Advanced tanks, no matter how many of them you have shooting that SoB. Cannot happen, will not happen. If there are semi-competent tank drivers on the other team, (again, usually more than 1), your team is severely handicapped unless you happen to have some veteran players that have a good A/V dropsuit, and even then you might be screwed.
- Mappable buttons. Come on, we're stuck with some terrible default controls here. Whoever thought the R2 wheel was good should be fired immediately. That system is terrible.
- Lag. This needs no explanation. Lag kills people. People stop playing on servers that are laggy, people stop playing GAMES that are laggy.
- Open Beta itself. I fully realize this is open beta, as I said in my disclaimer above. You know how many bad impressions you're creating with gamers by having so many gamebreaking bugs? People see the open beta sign, but it doesn't sink all the way in. If you make a bad impression on people now, they'll leave, and a majority (not all) won't bother trying it again once the "open beta" tag comes off. Don't believe me? Ask all the PC games that have gotten kicked in the nards by bad reviews/bad betas.
This is all I can think of for now, but this player of 2 weeks is seriously contemplating quitting, because I already work 60 hours a week, I come home and I game to relax with my wife. Nothing about these past 2 weeks have been fun. We stick it out, well, mainly because she is super persistent, but because there truly is promise here. But are you going to lose everyone before you ever realize that potential? There's threads all over these boards about things that are wrong with the game, bugs, things people would like to see, people getting bored with the same thing, no incentives for corp battles, vets getting tired of pubstomping, etc etc. Ask yourself this GMS/Devs, if you were a new bright-eyed excited player to come to this relatively untouched genre (futuristic shooter), and you came in to these bugs I listed, and the posts on these forums, would you be excited? Would you?
Do something about the things driving players like me away, or you won't have many players left to worry about. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:49:00 -
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First of all: learn to read https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37174&find=unread and https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=33610&find=unread
Second: I play the game just fine
Last but not least: This game is still in beta, it will improve... SoonGäó
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CominRound TheMountain wrote: Do something about the things driving players like me away, or you won't have many players left to worry about.
You mean impatient people who do nothing but complain? No one will miss you. |
XXfootnoteXX
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
76
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:08:00 -
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See this is what irks me. Above for the most part is a list of some legitimate complaints. I have zero problems with people pointing out the flaws so CCP can fix them.
But whatGÇÖs with the butt-hurt? ItGÇÖs an open beta, you did not buy this game. YouGÇÖre not entitled to anything, so why are you acting like they owe you something?
Find a bug? Report it! DonGÇÖt act like they insulted you personally.
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Mithridates VI
New Eden Research Foundation
168
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:15:00 -
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Seems fairly playable to me, given the number of people playing.
Sounds like melodrama. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
168
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:33:00 -
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I'm having none of the problems you're stating. Either your machine sucks or you're trolling. |
CominRound TheMountain
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:02:00 -
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Ah, so here is the amazing playerbase and community I've been told about. So constructive and helpful! Pretty sure I never stated I paid for the game or was owed anything. Also, some of the things I have posted have been confirmed as bugs by other people, so yep, must be my trolling & my terrible machine all in one! If you don't have feedback to give to the Devs, why bother posting in this forum?
Edit: to the guy who told me to to learn to read, pretty sure I said I understood it was beta so perhaps take your own advice. |
XXfootnoteXX
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
76
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:06:00 -
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CominRound TheMountain wrote:Ah, so here is the amazing playerbase and community I've been told about. So constructive and helpful! Pretty sure I never stated I paid for the game or was owed anything. Also, some of the things I have posted have been confirmed as bugs by other people, so yep, must be my trolling & my terrible machine all in one! If you don't have feedback to give to the Devs, why bother posting in this forum?
ThatGÇÖs why I said you acted like you were owed something, not that you said it. I also stated that you have real complaints, but when you bring it up in the butt-hurt manner you did here, no one is going to focus on the problem. Just you. |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:08:00 -
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CominRound TheMountain wrote:Ah, so here is the amazing playerbase and community I've been told about. So constructive and helpful! Pretty sure I never stated I paid for the game or was owed anything. Also, some of the things I have posted have been confirmed as bugs by other people, so yep, must be my trolling & my terrible machine all in one! If you don't have feedback to give to the Devs, why bother posting in this forum? Yeah man, don't dare criticize the game or the fanboys get rabid. The game is Everything you said and more. CCP better have a big ace up its sleeve or all the new awesome ps4 games are going to put this gimmicky mess in its grave |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:25:00 -
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CominRound TheMountain wrote:
Edit: to the guy who told me to to learn to read, pretty sure I said I understood it was beta so perhaps take your own advice.
*facepalm*
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LoveNewlooy
WarRavens
6
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:13:00 -
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fix the damn lag pls look what lag can be this worst http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTVIChCepvs |
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ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
51
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Posted - 2013.02.21 06:06:00 -
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CominRound TheMountain wrote:Here are a list of bugs and poorly implemented gameplay as I encountered tonight. These didn't just happen once, they've been constant for this past week, but this new player has finally hit his breaking point. Disclosure: I'm fully aware this is beta, so your "soon TM" or "it's beta" is pointless as a response.
- Map variety. I played 10 games tonight. Every single one of them I got on Manus Peak. Every single one. Sure you can spice it up with being at daytime or night time or desert, or whatever, but Manus Peak 10 times, is Manus Peak 10 times.
- Inability to reload. Seriously. How am I supposed to shoot people, the "S" in FPS if I can't reload my weapon. That's kind of a gamebreaking bug.
- Unusable fittings. I exit the game, come back in, all my fittings are broke. If you don't check them (as I have learned to do now because they break at least once a day) then you go into a game, and can't spawn immediately because all your fittings are broke, and while your team is running out to cap stuff, or your enemies are trying to attack you, you have to sit there and fix all your fittings. You can fix the dropsuits with a bit of work, but if you don't have a spare LAV part, you cannot fix the starter LAVs, so you're basically SOL.
- I have no hands. I'm not sure why. I have no hands. I honestly haven't even ever seen them once. Do they exist outside of your merc quarter? If this isn't a bug, and is indeed a feature, then this is odd to have just a pistol floating in mid air, or while you run.
- Push to talk. This is an option, yet doesn't work even remotely close to 20%? Really? Why not just not have the option?
- Matchmaking system. Find it really hard to believe that the solution to pitting veteran squads (most of the time multiple veteran squads) is to just remove randoms from being in their own squads. Come on CCP, figure it out. New players have absolutely NO chance against veterans in the current state. It's not fun for new players, it's not fun for veterans. It makes people resort to sniping from the redline. How is that fun for anyone?
- Tanks. This goes with my above point a bit, but new players in starter fit Anti-Vehicle cannot take out Advanced tanks, no matter how many of them you have shooting that SoB. Cannot happen, will not happen. If there are semi-competent tank drivers on the other team, (again, usually more than 1), your team is severely handicapped unless you happen to have some veteran players that have a good A/V dropsuit, and even then you might be screwed.
- Mappable buttons. Come on, we're stuck with some terrible default controls here. Whoever thought the R2 wheel was good should be fired immediately. That system is terrible.
- Lag. This needs no explanation. Lag kills people. People stop playing on servers that are laggy, people stop playing GAMES that are laggy.
- Open Beta itself. I fully realize this is open beta, as I said in my disclaimer above. You know how many bad impressions you're creating with gamers by having so many gamebreaking bugs? People see the open beta sign, but it doesn't sink all the way in. If you make a bad impression on people now, they'll leave, and a majority (not all) won't bother trying it again once the "open beta" tag comes off. Don't believe me? Ask all the PC games that have gotten kicked in the nards by bad reviews/bad betas.
This is all I can think of for now, but this player of 2 weeks is seriously contemplating quitting, because I already work 60 hours a week, I come home and I game to relax with my wife. Nothing about these past 2 weeks have been fun. We stick it out, well, mainly because she is super persistent, but because there truly is promise here. But are you going to lose everyone before you ever realize that potential? There's threads all over these boards about things that are wrong with the game, bugs, things people would like to see, people getting bored with the same thing, no incentives for corp battles, vets getting tired of pubstomping, etc etc. Ask yourself this GMS/Devs, if you were a new bright-eyed excited player to come to this relatively untouched genre (futuristic shooter), and you came in to these bugs I listed, and the posts on these forums, would you be excited? Would you? Do something about the things driving players like me away, or you won't have many players left to worry about.
I've been here for pretty much a year now and have seen this game devolve into a pile of crap. I agree with many of the points you have listed. Keep fighting the good fight OP. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:06:00 -
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CominRound TheMountain wrote: Tanks. This goes with my above point a bit, but new players in starter fit Anti-Vehicle cannot take out Advanced tanks, no matter how many of them you have shooting that SoB. Cannot happen, will not happen. If there are semi-competent tank drivers on the other team, (again, usually more than 1), your team is severely handicapped unless you happen to have some veteran players that have a good A/V dropsuit, and even then you might be screwed.
Under no conditions is the Militia AV fit supposed to take out an ADV vehicle.
That's like complaining your flintlock won't pierce Kevlar. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:09:00 -
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CominRound TheMountain wrote:Ah, so here is the amazing playerbase and community I've been told about. So constructive and helpful! Pretty sure I never stated I paid for the game or was owed anything. Also, some of the things I have posted have been confirmed as bugs by other people, so yep, must be my trolling & my terrible machine all in one! If you don't have feedback to give to the Devs, why bother posting in this forum?
Edit: to the guy who told me to to learn to read, pretty sure I said I understood it was beta so perhaps take your own advice. People generally are helpful.
When the person asking for help isn't being a whiny d-bag.
If you walk into a room with an attitude, then you ought to expect to get some in return. It's not rocket science. |
usrevenge2
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:10:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:I'm having none of the problems you're stating. Either your machine sucks or you're trolling.
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Django Quik
R.I.f.t
220
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Posted - 2013.02.21 09:36:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:CominRound TheMountain wrote:
Edit: to the guy who told me to to learn to read, pretty sure I said I understood it was beta so perhaps take your own advice.
*facepalm*
You fool - those links he told you to learn to read are both stickies from the devs saying not to make lists! |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.02.21 12:24:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:CominRound TheMountain wrote:
Edit: to the guy who told me to to learn to read, pretty sure I said I understood it was beta so perhaps take your own advice.
*facepalm* You fool - those links he told you to learn to read are both stickies from the devs saying not to make lists! To the Original Poster Boi with the big QQ eyes.
These two beat me to it you Twit.
Learn to read the Posts from the Devs that are stickied at the top of the page for all the Twitterpated QQ Boiz to miss because the problems that they experienced are the only things that matter and we will all bow to your stinking entitlement. |
Kray Dytt
THE DOLLARS
4
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Posted - 2013.02.21 12:29:00 -
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Ok, i'm going to try to be nice about this... OP, you have some valid concerns/remarks, I'm not going to deny that.
What I don't understand is what your purpose is with this thread. You say the game is unplayable... which you've gathered while playing it all week? Ok...
You say you know it's beta... so you understand the game is not done yet and will therefore have problems not acceptable in a finished game?
What, exactly, do you hope to achieve? Do you think CCP will read this and go "oh my! this guy is fed up with the DUST beta. Well, better release the full, bug-free, perfect build we've been sitting on for months now...
You even state that all your issues have already been mentioned by others... so you realise you're now just whining for the sake of it?
The only somewhat interesting point you raise (probably by accident) is whether it is wise to have the game in open beta at this point. So let's discuss that:
Pro's:
-more attention (hype) for the game -more test results -interested players don't have to wait -increased player involvement because of people "being a part of the creation process" -CCP already earning some money from AUR sales
Con's:
-people might be disappointed by what the game has to offer right now. Some might just put it aside and check back in later but others might get put off for good. -CCP could be seen as money grabbers for selling stuff for a beta -possible negative hype
All in all, I think the pro's outweigh the con's. Obviously you don't (and are in the second half of the group in the first con).
Closing thought: I think it's refreshing to be in an open beta which is actually a beta and not just a pre-release demo ;) |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.02.21 12:33:00 -
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CominRound TheMountain wrote:--Lots and lots of QQ cut because the tears just made the letters all squishy and out of focus.--
This is all I can think of for now, but this player of 2 weeks is seriously contemplating quitting, because I already work blah, blah, blah, blah God will this guy ever shut up? So, Quit already!
Do It yesterday. Do Not Tell Us About It. Just Do It. Stay on the Other Side Of The Mountain.
I can think of many more problems because I have been writing bug reports against the game and the maps for quite some time now. Also, I can look at the Updates from the Devs discussing the Bugs being tracked and what needs more help from the Forum members (that would not be you QQ Boi).
I can remember when the game was worse. Some parts were better and many things have been changed. Overall the game is better and they did it without listening to any whining from you. Angry Birds awaits your brilliance. |
TV Repair Guy
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.02.21 12:36:00 -
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The spawn-in mechanism is broken, and makes this game (almost) unplayable. How long has it been this way? It's unbelievable. |
Kazio De Vihura
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.02.21 15:28:00 -
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You have this lag because of you hdd, dust have big maps and have to load textures all the time, get ssd and you will never again see this problem(or even good 7200 rpm hdd with a big Buffer Size) |
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Meeko Fent
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.02.21 15:37:00 -
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CominRound TheMountain wrote:Here are a list of bugs and poorly implemented gameplay as I encountered tonight. These didn't just happen once, they've been constant for this past week, but this new player has finally hit his breaking point. Disclosure: I'm fully aware this is beta, so your "soon TM" or "it's beta" is pointless as a response.
- Map variety. I played 10 games tonight. Every single one of them I got on Manus Peak. Every single one. Sure you can spice it up with being at daytime or night time or desert, or whatever, but Manus Peak 10 times, is Manus Peak 10 times.
- Inability to reload. Seriously. How am I supposed to shoot people, the "S" in FPS if I can't reload my weapon. That's kind of a gamebreaking bug.
- Unusable fittings. I exit the game, come back in, all my fittings are broke. If you don't check them (as I have learned to do now because they break at least once a day) then you go into a game, and can't spawn immediately because all your fittings are broke, and while your team is running out to cap stuff, or your enemies are trying to attack you, you have to sit there and fix all your fittings. You can fix the dropsuits with a bit of work, but if you don't have a spare LAV part, you cannot fix the starter LAVs, so you're basically SOL.
- I have no hands. I'm not sure why. I have no hands. I honestly haven't even ever seen them once. Do they exist outside of your merc quarter? If this isn't a bug, and is indeed a feature, then this is odd to have just a pistol floating in mid air, or while you run.
- Push to talk. This is an option, yet doesn't work even remotely close to 20%? Really? Why not just not have the option?
- Matchmaking system. Find it really hard to believe that the solution to pitting veteran squads (most of the time multiple veteran squads) is to just remove randoms from being in their own squads. Come on CCP, figure it out. New players have absolutely NO chance against veterans in the current state. It's not fun for new players, it's not fun for veterans. It makes people resort to sniping from the redline. How is that fun for anyone?
- Tanks. This goes with my above point a bit, but new players in starter fit Anti-Vehicle cannot take out Advanced tanks, no matter how many of them you have shooting that SoB. Cannot happen, will not happen. If there are semi-competent tank drivers on the other team, (again, usually more than 1), your team is severely handicapped unless you happen to have some veteran players that have a good A/V dropsuit, and even then you might be screwed.
- Mappable buttons. Come on, we're stuck with some terrible default controls here. Whoever thought the R2 wheel was good should be fired immediately. That system is terrible.
- Lag. This needs no explanation. Lag kills people. People stop playing on servers that are laggy, people stop playing GAMES that are laggy.
- Open Beta itself. I fully realize this is open beta, as I said in my disclaimer above. You know how many bad impressions you're creating with gamers by having so many gamebreaking bugs? People see the open beta sign, but it doesn't sink all the way in. If you make a bad impression on people now, they'll leave, and a majority (not all) won't bother trying it again once the "open beta" tag comes off. Don't believe me? Ask all the PC games that have gotten kicked in the nards by bad reviews/bad betas.
This is all I can think of for now, but this player of 2 weeks is seriously contemplating quitting, because I already work 60 hours a week, I come home and I game to relax with my wife. Nothing about these past 2 weeks have been fun. We stick it out, well, mainly because she is super persistent, but because there truly is promise here. But are you going to lose everyone before you ever realize that potential? There's threads all over these boards about things that are wrong with the game, bugs, things people would like to see, people getting bored with the same thing, no incentives for corp battles, vets getting tired of pubstomping, etc etc. Ask yourself this GMS/Devs, if you were a new bright-eyed excited player to come to this relatively untouched genre (futuristic shooter), and you came in to these bugs I listed, and the posts on these forums, would you be excited? Would you? Do something about the things driving players like me away, or you won't have many players left to worry about. Oh, yeah. BTW ITS A FRICKING FREE GAME! 100%! They ain't making NO money of you so quit your Bitchin and report these bugs instead of throwing a bitchy fit
I Apologize for rage. Thank you and have a nice day |
Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.21 16:46:00 -
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Kray Dytt wrote:What I don't understand is what your purpose is with this thread. You say the game is unplayable... which you've gathered while playing it all week? Ok...
You say you know it's beta... so you understand the game is not done yet and will therefore have problems not acceptable in a finished game?
What, exactly, do you hope to achieve? Do you think CCP will read this and go "oh my! this guy is fed up with the DUST beta. Well, better release the full, bug-free, perfect build we've been sitting on for months now...
You even state that all your issues have already been mentioned by others... so you realise you're now just whining for the sake of it?
This...lots of This. |
Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:06:00 -
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I won't say that the game is " Unplayable " that is a bit to much. But i agree that it feels to " Uncompleted ", even if it is a Beta. The keyword is "Open" Beta, i played open betas from other games, that where " Nearly " finish. Dust 514 doesn't feels like that.
CCP needs to start releasing more content into the open Beta, or people won't see the full potential of the game. |
Volgair
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
200
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:07:00 -
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I'm having trouble disagreeing with the OP's points. I have stuck with this game for almost a year and i have been following its development since December 2007. As much as it pains me to admit, he's right on all accounts. While I am aware fixes are in progress, and i know that lists are specifically disapproved on this forum, it doesn't change the fact he is correct. |
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