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Don Know
Me My Alts And I
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Posted - 2013.02.20 04:44:00 -
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How much penalty would you get for using two complex light damage modifiers (10% each) How does the penalties work. |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
114
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Posted - 2013.02.20 04:49:00 -
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it's currently broken, so there's no penalty. Just add up whatever you have. |
danny12343331
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:50:00 -
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Can't wait for the staking penalty is out, thing is OP right now... HMG 2 complex damage mods god mode all day. |
Terra Thesis
Defiant Kelkoons
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Posted - 2013.02.20 06:17:00 -
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danny12343331 wrote:Can't wait for the staking penalty is out, thing is OP right now... HMG 2 complex damage mods god mode all day.
If it's anything like Eve, the stacking penalty will be negligible for two modules. |
Thranx1231
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:43:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:danny12343331 wrote:Can't wait for the staking penalty is out, thing is OP right now... HMG 2 complex damage mods god mode all day. If it's anything like Eve, the stacking penalty will be negligible for two modules. I thought I recalled something about 10% reduction for additional module. Maybe progressing with each. Couldn't find the reference though.
That leaves 19% damage boost for two when the bug is fixed. Weaponry lvl 5 adds 10%, needed to get the mods anyway. So one starts at 20% and a reduced second mod means 29%.
We will see when, and if, they fix it. |
Terra Thesis
Defiant Kelkoons
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Posted - 2013.02.21 01:57:00 -
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Thranx1231 wrote:Terra Thesis wrote:danny12343331 wrote:Can't wait for the staking penalty is out, thing is OP right now... HMG 2 complex damage mods god mode all day. If it's anything like Eve, the stacking penalty will be negligible for two modules. I thought I recalled something about 10% reduction for additional module. Maybe progressing with each. Couldn't find the reference though. That leaves 19% damage boost for two when the bug is fixed. Weaponry lvl 5 adds 10%, needed to get the mods anyway. So one starts at 20% and a reduced second mod means 29%. We will see when, and if, they fix it.
Yes, approximately 10% reduction on the module, which means approximately 1% effect on the final value. I consider that negligible. If you think 121% is OP, 119% isn't going to make you feel better. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:04:00 -
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Assuming it's like EVE (which is likely at least the right ballpark.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Stacking_penalty
Modules Effect of nth module Cumulative bonuses with N modules ,each giving 10%
- 100%
10 % - 87%
19.6% - 57%
26.4% - 28%
29.9% - 10.5%
31.3% - 3%
31.7%
The formatting didn't hold very well, so sorry for the mess but this information should explain the effects.
Cheers,
Cross |
Don Know
Me My Alts And I
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:08:00 -
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Thanks for the info guys, good to know.
Also this is kind of off topic but how do you join chat channels? (Where do you go?) |
M3DIC 2U
RED COLONIAL MARINES
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:26:00 -
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Don Know wrote:Thanks for the info guys, good to know.
Also this is kind of off topic but how do you join chat channels? (Where do you go?)
hit selected, arrow down to bottom, hit X on create/join, then type in name of channel. No search or list function yet so you have to know the name. |
i-get-pubstomped all-day
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:17:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:it's currently broken, so there's no penalty. Just add up whatever you have.
Just like 90% of the things in this game. |
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Synner Zerg
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:40:00 -
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First of all, separate modules' bonuses are compounded, not added. You've got to think of "percentage bonuses" as multipliers, so a 10% bonus is 1.1 multiplier to the base value.
Example 10% bonus to 100 = 110, or 1.1 * 100 = 110
Currently, the stacking penalty is broken on Damage Mods (although i've seen it in effect on most other modules i've tried).
So it is 1.1 * 1.1 * base value, or 1.21 multiplier, or 21% bonus (not 10%+10%=20%)
If the stacking penalty was applied, the second module would only be 87% effective:
1.1 * (1 + (0.1*0.87)) * base value
1.1 * 1.087 * base value or 1.1957 multiplier, or 19.57% compound bonus, which when rounded up is exactly what the eve wiki link says. |
Keiran13
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:30:00 -
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Last I checked, the description for the damage mods didn't say that there was a stacking penalty like some of the other mods do. Are we sure they're supposed to have it? |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
114
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Posted - 2013.02.22 03:56:00 -
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Keiran13 wrote:Last I checked, the description for the damage mods didn't say that there was a stacking penalty like some of the other mods do. Are we sure they're supposed to have it?
Check again :P
yes, they're supposed to have it. |
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