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Wakko03 Better Hide R Die 134	Posted - 2013.02.19 19:32:00 - [1] - Quote Simply put, I'm not getting much for Salvage, whereas in the past build it was much more frequent. Case in point out of 10 games last night, (mix of all three game modes) I got lucky and came in first on the match leaderboards about 6 of those games, no salvage -- while one of my friends in the squad who had a bad match and finished near the bottom got 3 items for salvage. Then upon my worst game where I was slaughtered, I end up getting 2 items. This has been happening for weeks I just used last night as a current occurence of the issue I am trying to describe.
YourDeadAgain76 Red Star. 133	Posted - 2013.02.19 19:37:00 - [2] - Quote Yeah the salvage system sucks. If u are on the top of the board tho, u do get better stuff when u do get a salvage. (if ever) Them blueberries snuggled around 10th to 16th, i bet get a drop every 2 or 3 games. I only get a drop about 1 out of 6 or 10 games myself. Plus its so random sometimes it sucks to.
Makuta Miserix Better Hide R Die 33	Posted - 2013.02.19 19:37:00 - [3] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: Simply put, I'm not getting much for Salvage, whereas in the past build it was much more frequent. Case in point out of 10 games last night, (mix of all three game modes) I got lucky and came in first on the match leaderboards about 6 of those games, no salvage -- while one of my friends in the squad who had a bad match and finished near the bottom got 3 items for salvage. Then upon my worst game where I was slaughtered, I end up getting 2 items. This has been happening for weeks I just used last night as a current occurence of the issue I am trying to describe. I honestly have no idea how it works. Sometimes you do good and get some great stuff, other times you do really good and get nothing. Its messed up in my opinion. (unless CCP wants it to work that way)
YourDeadAgain76 Red Star. 133	Posted - 2013.02.19 19:39:00 - [4] - Quote Remember b4 the last resets. Everyone was bringing out all the gear they were saving for corp. games. LOL that was awesome. The salvage drops/Isk,Sp are all better. I guess what im saying is dudes wear the best gear you can then everyone will profit.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2013.02.19 19:40:00 - [5] - Quote It's random. Totally random. I get salvage all the time, almost every match, sometimes multiple items in one match and I generally finish in the top five. I have also in the past gotten salvage for deploying onto the victory screen without ever even spawning.
Berserker007 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 206	Posted - 2013.02.19 19:53:00 - [6] - Quote YourDeadAgain76 wrote: Remember b4 the last resets. Everyone was bringing out all the gear they were saving for corp. games. LOL that was awesome. The salvage drops/Isk,Sp are all better. I guess what im saying is dudes wear the best gear you can then everyone will profit. or dont; whereas the better players will profit more ?? But on the salavage, there doesn't seem to be any algorithm they use to determine who will get salvage. I know im usually inthe top 5 every day; and i can go 3-4 hours w/o salvage, but then ill get salvage 3-4 games in a row w/ no change in how im doing. Essentially it is all luck at this moment. You can thank the current salvage setup mostly on the people who complained the get junk every game for salvage (we use to get basic CPU, armor rep, PG upgrades, etc) so they redid salvage to make it so we dont get those basic items and only get advanced items at an incredibly rare rate
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2013.02.19 19:57:00 - [7] - Quote It's all a roll of the dice peoples.
SIeepy Zan Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2013.02.19 19:58:00 - [8] - Quote Meh, I can't really complain about not getting free stuff.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:02:00 - [9] - Quote SIeepy Zan wrote: Meh, I can't really complain about not getting free stuff. Did you get kicked out of The Imperfects?
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:03:00 - [10] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: SIeepy Zan wrote: Meh, I can't really complain about not getting free stuff. Did you get kicked out of The Imperfects? Look at his likes...

Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:04:00 - [11] - Quote It's random and temporary according to CCP. Basically, be patient :)
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 372	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:10:00 - [12] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: SIeepy Zan wrote: Meh, I can't really complain about not getting free stuff. Did you get kicked out of The Imperfects? Look at his likes... The ****... did he replace his main?
SIeepy Zan Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:15:00 - [13] - Quote gbghg wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: SIeepy Zan wrote: Meh, I can't really complain about not getting free stuff. Did you get kicked out of The Imperfects? Look at his likes... The ****... did he replace his main? It's complicated, lets just say I'm freelance now
Terra Thesis Defiant Kelkoons 19	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:16:00 - [14] - Quote gbghg wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: SIeepy Zan wrote: Meh, I can't really complain about not getting free stuff. Did you get kicked out of The Imperfects? Look at his likes... The ****... did he replace his main? omgomg!! he got hacked, not only did they delete all his likes, they also messed with the font in his name!!! THAT'S WHY THEY KICKED HIM!!!!!!
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 372	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:28:00 - [15] - Quote SIeepy Zan wrote: gbghg wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: SIeepy Zan wrote: Meh, I can't really complain about not getting free stuff. Did you get kicked out of The Imperfects? Look at his likes... The ****... did he replace his main? It's complicated, lets just say I'm freelance now poor you zan, still imperfects always did seem a little egocentric.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:30:00 - [16] - Quote SIeepy Zan wrote: gbghg wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: SIeepy Zan wrote: Meh, I can't really complain about not getting free stuff. Did you get kicked out of The Imperfects? Look at his likes... The ****... did he replace his main? It's complicated, lets just say I'm freelance now Welp. You have a point there DTT. He has only 1 like. Awh well I hope Sleepy Zan is all well and in good shape.
rebecca watson Universal Allies Inc. 41	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:46:00 - [17] - Quote lol, freaking out. moving on, from Wikipedia: "Randomness means different things in various fields. Commonly, it means lack of pattern or predictability in events" Humans are terrible at interpreting randomness, we try to assign causality to random events instead. You would need to write down what you got at the end of every match, along with data about how long the match was, how many wp earned, kdr, value of suits killed, ect. Otherwise you are left with Confirmation Bias which, if you already believe something has changed with the Salvage system, you will continue to see evidence for that belief, and ignore/miss the evidence to the contrary. And Now You KnowGäó "dun dut Dut!"
Wakko03 Better Hide R Die 134	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:51:00 - [18] - Quote At least try to quantify your hi-jack by saying, "yeah, I am not getting salvage like I used to either", then ramble about other business. I just find it slightly confusing, maybe it is the name they have used. Salvage. If I blow up multiple vehicles, cap points, fight the enemy on the front line, actually walk thru an enemy corpse or vehicle corpse it makes me think I should be able to salvage something from it. I am not saying there should be goldeneye weapon drops as everyone will just start farming the good stuff. I think the Reward (for lack of a better word other than salvage) should be potentially higher than the guy SP Farming or the sniper KDR farming in the heart of their own redline, especially since any monies generated for the vehicle destruction (and I am going to guess that blowing up a turret) goes toward the team pool, and a lot of the time I find the random team is not even trying to use a weapon that can hurt a vehicle.
Wakko03 Better Hide R Die 134	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:58:00 - [19] - Quote Berserker007 wrote: YourDeadAgain76 wrote: Remember b4 the last resets. Everyone was bringing out all the gear they were saving for corp. games. LOL that was awesome. The salvage drops/Isk,Sp are all better. I guess what im saying is dudes wear the best gear you can then everyone will profit. or dont; whereas the better players will profit more ?? But on the salavage, there doesn't seem to be any algorithm they use to determine who will get salvage. I know im usually inthe top 5 every day; and i can go 3-4 hours w/o salvage, but then ill get salvage 3-4 games in a row w/ no change in how im doing. Essentially it is all luck at this moment. You can thank the current salvage setup mostly on the people who complained the get junk every game for salvage (we use to get basic CPU, armor rep, PG upgrades, etc) so they redid salvage to make it so we dont get those basic items and only get advanced items at an incredibly rare rate Used this quote and the underlined section to reply to watson..... I know something was already changed, I'm saying the changed system still has some quirks....now you know.
Mithridates VI New Eden Research Foundation 164	Posted - 2013.02.19 20:59:00 - [20] - Quote rebecca watson wrote: Rational stuff. +1 for knowing what's up

Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.02.19 21:06:00 - [21] - Quote I always get my best salvage when struggling for kills against an overwhelming force, so I'm pretty sure the quality of your victims' gear is a big factor. When I'm at the top of the boards in a pubstomp, I get nothing almost every time. When I wrangle a few kills out of the wrong side of a pubstomp against a powerful corp, I always end up with 2 or 3 decent bits of salvage to salve the sting of defeat. I recall a super frustrating ambush match against a bunch of tanks and heavies where I ended up with 5 dropships, 5 advanced Forge Guns, and 10 prototype heavy suits after going negative in a big way. (Still at the top of the team, sadly.)
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 92	Posted - 2013.02.19 21:08:00 - [22] - Quote Guys, this current salvage system is TEMPORARY. I mean think about it for a second, how is it that killing a lot of people in random games, grants you a chance of finding something like a balac ar??? Nobody else is using them so it doesn't make any sense right?? thats because this system is temporary, after this upcoming patch, or the patch after that, im sure there going to introduce a system like drones, or fighting NPC clones. That will provide a much more consistant rate of salvage, and although the value of that salvage will probably be on average a lot lower, Sometimes you'll get lucky and have the NPC stuff drop something like an officer module/weapon. Depending on how deep in space you are, the rate at which these rare drops will occur will increase. So yes, the current system is pretty bad/random, but give it time, and i assure all of you things will get better.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.02.19 21:10:00 - [23] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: Simply put, I'm not getting much for Salvage, whereas in the past build it was much more frequent. Case in point out of 10 games last night, (mix of all three game modes) I got lucky and came in first on the match leaderboards about 6 of those games, no salvage -- while one of my friends in the squad who had a bad match and finished near the bottom got 3 items for salvage. Then upon my worst game where I was slaughtered, I end up getting 2 items. This has been happening for weeks I just used last night as a current occurence of the issue I am trying to describe. R A R E
General Erick Onslaught Inc 24	Posted - 2013.02.19 21:13:00 - [24] - Quote Salvage isn't worth anything if you can't use it anyway.
Wakko03 Better Hide R Die 134	Posted - 2013.02.19 21:20:00 - [25] - Quote If you can buy it on the market currently just how rare is it?
Washlee UnReaL. 131	Posted - 2013.02.19 21:26:00 - [26] - Quote Lol why complain about crap you will never use.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2013.02.19 21:34:00 - [27] - Quote Washlee wrote: Lol why complain about crap you will never use. Once we get Corp lockers then its a tradeathon i.e. hey bro I got 50 Thales Sniper rifles will trade for a few Calas SMG. Or bro I have 50 Gastuns will trade for Balacs and Krins ARs. Or bro I have twenty Sagaris will trade for Suryas.....etc. "crap you will never use".........hell no!! as soon as we get Corp lockers then folks had better have stuff to trade.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2013.02.19 21:45:00 - [28] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: If you can buy it on the market currently just how rare is it? You can't buy officer weapons on the market.
YourDeadAgain76 Red Star. 133	Posted - 2013.02.20 18:01:00 - [29] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Washlee wrote: Lol why complain about crap you will never use. Once we get Corp lockers then its a tradeathon i.e. hey bro I got 50 Thales Sniper rifles will trade for a few Calas SMG. Or bro I have 50 Gastuns will trade for Balacs and Krins ARs. Or bro I have twenty Sagaris will trade for Suryas.....etc. "crap you will never use".........hell no!! as soon as we get Corp lockers then folks had better have stuff to trade. Yeah hopefully we get it SOONtm. That will be awesome to trade or atleast allowed to trade withing corporations. CCP how about opening the trade up. Even if just within corp's. But then again people could just join a corp trade and go back to original corp so might as well make it wide open to anyone.... We all have stuff we cant use... like for me... Thales i will never use a sniper rifle, i think it sucks, to boring. Cant wait to see if this ever happens.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.20 18:05:00 - [30] - Quote YourDeadAgain76 wrote: Thales i will never use a sniper rifle, i think it sucks, to boring. You are fired from Red Star. Pack your bags. Clear your merc quarters and leave your Thales there.



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