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Orlando Rez UnReaL. 21	Posted - 2013.02.18 09:22:00 - [1] - Quote So my question is since I already have lvl 3 rep tools and lvl 4 hives.... Now I been thinking about putting more. Points into shield and armor or should I just focus on getting lvl 5 reps and lvl 5 hives
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 134	Posted - 2013.02.18 09:23:00 - [2] - Quote Well you can't rep people if you're dead...
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.18 09:27:00 - [3] - Quote Orlando Rez wrote: So my question is since I already have lvl 3 rep tools and lvl 4 hives.... Now I been thinking about putting more. Points into shield and armor or should I just focus on getting lvl 5 reps and lvl 5 hives i think you should ask your self that Do you trust the people you heal enough to wast that much isk every match every time you die due to a team mate who does not understand the concept of hiding behind a object will mean they take less damage and being healed does not make them UN-killable so they should still take cover from time to time if the answer is no then no if the answer is yes then no go for shields and personal Armour a logi is no use to his team if he dies in the fire fight also look at some weapons your suit can equip it may not be much but you can still help in some situations even a nova knife has its moments ~
Chankk Saotome CrimeWave Syndicate 170	Posted - 2013.02.18 09:35:00 - [4] - Quote Wish we could have helped you earlier on. As a logi (or any build honestly) the first thing I'd go for would be my level 1 weapon, and 3 shield control and field mechanics... minimum. THEN I'd start spec'ing out into everything else. While that's just me, I know that most successful people are either those who focus on their survival first or their dps first. Which depends on your gun-game. While your learning your role is important, it's more important to make sure you're not getting steamrolled just a month in because you've put all your skills into active function rather than passive ability to help you stay alive on the field first. There are a lot of skill setup suggestions throughout Training Grounds; a lot, A LOT of Logi aides; but, I think just about everyone agrees that passives should be your starting point before concerning yourself with gear and equipment skills, especially as a logi where those will eventually be your focus and goal but initially your primary concern will and should be your ability to use them in the first place which means not being dead yourself.
Orlando Rez UnReaL. 21	Posted - 2013.02.18 09:50:00 - [5] - Quote Thx for all the guys, I shall put some points into them... I have shield boost lvl4 and shield control lvl 2 and combat engineering lvl 3 and lvl 4 mechanics
Delirium Inferno Chernova Industries 34	Posted - 2013.02.18 10:03:00 - [6] - Quote I actually feel the exact opposite. As a logistics you should focus more on your support role and less on your combat role. I played matches where I kill maybe 1 or 2 people at most and hardly took any shots because I was never on the front lines but rather running back and forth between the various front lines trying to give the best possible support I could. Don't get me wrong, being able to take extra shots is important for a logi, but not at the expensive of less than maximum support. Also weaponry should probably be the last thing you worry about. But as per usual, this is just my opinion on how I prefer to play this class - as more of a behind-the-scenes all around support rather than an in-your-face combat medic.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 285	Posted - 2013.02.18 10:09:00 - [7] - Quote Personally I would go for shields at that point. One of the most commendable things a logi can do is take fire for you while you stand up.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.02.18 10:15:00 - [8] - Quote yes but shields and armor allow you to do your job more effectively and under more fire, where you are neede3d most and point best. as far as weapons go they improve your ability to get to your teamates after death and prevent your own death after your teamates have died. not to mention NO ONE likes to be ninja needled only to be killed again, you should always clear the area before ressing your teamates to prevent them from getting gunned down again.(tho if you have proto needles and your teamates are good ninja needles might be acceptable.)
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.18 10:16:00 - [9] - Quote this post has good reasons why you shouldn't logi :P https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=59313&find=unread edit use the revive tool or nanite injector even though you should don't
Imp Smash On The Brink 51	Posted - 2013.02.18 12:10:00 - [10] - Quote Logis hard mate. Soooooo many choices and ways to play. Personally I swear by nano injectors and personal kill power. Clear an area and pick up your buddy that caught a stray bullet. But that's just me. It is by NO means the right way to play logi. It's just A way.

Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 153	Posted - 2013.02.18 12:15:00 - [11] - Quote If you are not using them already, getting Shield Enhancements to level 4 and buying Complex Shield Extenders will also help you a lot. But yeah, Shield Control and Mechanics should definitely be one of your first priorities.
Disposable Meatbag Inertial Defense Systems 7	Posted - 2013.02.18 12:22:00 - [12] - Quote With you initial points I'd open up shield control and get field mechanics up. Then concentrate on Light sharpshooter and AR operation. No real need for non-bpo equipment in the current game. As a logi our single weapon is a drawback and a benefit as we have only one weapon to skill up. You can unlock gadgets later once your able to defend yourself and dispatch an enemy before rezzing the guy he just killed.
Kelshaw Xu ZionTCD Legacy Rising 65	Posted - 2013.02.18 12:25:00 - [13] - Quote Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: If you are not using them already, getting Shield Enhancements to level 4 and buying Complex Shield Extenders will also help you a lot. But yeah, Shield Control and Mechanics should definitely be one of your first priorities. ^ I agree with, and to help the logi's out in my squads I keep an Injector.. I play assault if nano tech is good for hives then it's also good for needle. Besides my Logi bro always has a hive for me to soak. I once asked a random logi, "What gear ya want me in? I can bring a needle!" His reply.. "I have one.. bring anything." My retort "None of us have a needle but you.. who will pick us up if you die?"
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 153	Posted - 2013.02.18 12:58:00 - [14] - Quote Kelshaw Xu wrote: Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: If you are not using them already, getting Shield Enhancements to level 4 and buying Complex Shield Extenders will also help you a lot. But yeah, Shield Control and Mechanics should definitely be one of your first priorities. ^ I agree with, and to help the logi's out in my squads I keep an Injector.. I play assault if nano tech is good for hives then it's also good for needle. Besides my Logi bro always has a hive for me to soak. I once asked a random logi, "What gear ya want me in? I can bring a needle!" His reply.. "I have one.. bring anything." My retort "None of us have a needle but you.. who will pick us up if you die?" True, very true. At the very least, if you're lucky, you can actually pick up the Logi and let him continue doing his job. Otherwise help your fellow squad mates until the Logi comes back to you. However, I think I can also understand the reason behind the "I have the needle, that's enough" attitude - competition for warpoints. Although, it usually doesn't happen in a premade squad, since people actually want to have the full squad on their feet, no matter who picked up or repaired whom.
Disposable Meatbag Inertial Defense Systems 7	Posted - 2013.02.18 13:05:00 - [15] - Quote If you played mag it showed how valuable everybody having a rez tool could be. But I see smurfs in triage fittings run right by my dead ass.
Imp Smash On The Brink 51	Posted - 2013.02.21 07:10:00 - [16] - Quote ^Very much this. In MAG the team that rezzed a lot won a lot. Made me a believer. I'm now a convert of the "pick my ass up" religion.
Argo Filch BetaMax. 0	Posted - 2013.02.21 07:23:00 - [17] - Quote that's what i always being told: get complex shield extenders and better armor plates and rep first and then focus on other things. the other thing i always hear is "have you got your type 2 suits yet?"... that one seems to be mainly because them type 2 suits have more stamina... faster logibro is faster at hotspots where he's needed.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 580	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:03:00 - [18] - Quote I don't think its necessary not be maxing out your defenses first, but you certainly should not neglect them, especially since the Logi suit is considerably weaker in terms of defense. Field Mechanics is an easy x1 skill you can get to 3 or 4 very easily, and 2-3 points into Shield Control wont hurt either. More HP is never a bad thing, and I'd hate to be dropping expensive repair equipment because I was 20HP short of surviving.
M3DIC 2U RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention 13	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:17:00 - [19] - Quote Disposable Meatbag wrote: If you played mag it showed how valuable everybody having a rez tool could be. But I see smurfs in triage fittings run right by my dead ass. your name says Disposable Up your killing ability some through weaponry and then basics for whatever your item of choice is going to be. Being able to kill and add some serious damage to the group makes you that much more valuable to teammates and blues who will suddenly stick around you once they realize I don't die as much. I still don't understand why they try to shoot or melee me when I armor rep them though, that is just mean
Zahle Undt Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:59:00 - [20] - Quote Argo Filch wrote: that's what i always being told: get complex shield extenders and better armor plates and rep first and then focus on other things. the other thing i always hear is "have you got your type 2 suits yet?"... that one seems to be mainly because them type 2 suits have more stamina... faster logibro is faster at hotspots where he's needed. I gotta disagree with the Type II suit, I would rather have the third equipment slot than the speed myself.

Mithridates VI New Eden Research Foundation 164	Posted - 2013.02.21 20:10:00 - [21] - Quote M3DIC 2U wrote: I still don't understand why they try to shoot or melee me when I armor rep them though, that is just mean Yeah, I get a lot of people who think the crazy light I'm blasting at them is an attack.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.21 20:48:00 - [22] - Quote Orlando Rez wrote: So my question is since I already have lvl 3 rep tools and lvl 4 hives.... Now I been thinking about putting more. Points into shield and armor or should I just focus on getting lvl 5 reps and lvl 5 hives If you have AUR, dont worry about it. If you dont go for higher rep tools. Being able to repair 2 people simultaneously is better. Besides if you are a logi you better be behind a fatty or 2.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.21 20:51:00 - [23] - Quote Orlando Rez wrote: Thx for all the guys, I shall put some points into them... I have shield boost lvl4 and shield control lvl 2 and combat engineering lvl 3 and lvl 4 mechanics Sheild control is a waste for a Logi IMHO. You are better of going for the Protosuit instead. Going for a shield control 5 gets you a net of 31 shield points for almost a million SP. The protosuit gives you the extra slot that you can load a complex shield extender.


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