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Pvt Numnutz We're OWL Exterminators 31	Posted - 2013.02.18 15:28:00 - [1] - Quote Mavado V Noriega quit dust now. Im getting very tiered of seeing posts like this, i can only imagine how people like CCP Eterne feel when people post this kind of stuff. I think its a very good thing that they are taking the time to fix issues that are present in the game. When other shooters launch they have very few fixes, alot of them dont fix any of the bugs, only release a few maps maybe 1 weapon and MAYBE a new game type. They even launch them before they have fixed alot of the bugs and then rake in the money leaving us with shattered dreams and broken promises. Now, a company called CCP is taking its time and really making a game and thinking through step by step to try and avoid those broken promises. Further more they made it a free to play game.....Not only that but they love hearing peoples ideas and want to use player driven ideas on this very forum to make this game the best game ever. And what do you do? "CCP hurry up ive waited like a whole year while your testing this game and you havent given me exactly what i want WWAAAHHHh" "I played COD so i know when you should have all of this stuff out!" "CCP why are you taking time to make this game good?! I WANT IT NOW" "Pub games suck so give us some like planet warefare stuff NOW" "CCP you said we would have all this but ive been waiting for a year now and i feel ENTITLED to have all of it NOW!" "Ive been following this game for a year so you have to listen to me cause I am entitled to this FREE TO PLAY GAME cause im a "veteran" and that makes me more important." You sir are the reason we cant have nice things. All you do is whine and complain when they are trying to test this game and build on a good base before moving on to even more challenging things. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT *BETA* MEANS FUKTARD?! It means they are TESTING THE GAME! it means they want to work out the kinks before they launch the game. We as beta players have a responsiblity to the dev's, CCP, and ourselves to give FEEDBACK and help them to work out problems because they are STILL TESTING THE GAME. We are suppose to be helping but instead CCP Eterne had to take time out of his day to tell you what you should already know! If you cant handle a little waiting for them to do their job, which is making very complex player driven games with stories to tell from every player, then please PLEASE go back to other shooters, your wasting CCP's time with these useless rants about NOTHING not one little bit of helpful feedback, your wasting my time, and your wasting time for people on the forums to give good intelligent feedback. so please if your not gonna HTFU then GTFO
Pvt Numnutz We're OWL Exterminators 31	Posted - 2013.02.18 15:39:00 - [2] - Quote im not gonna go into how long ive been watching dust and how that makes me more entitled. This thread helps nothing. OP needs to HTFU
Pvt Numnutz We're OWL Exterminators 31	Posted - 2013.02.18 16:17:00 - [3] - Quote ImperfectFan514 wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: im not gonna go into how long ive been watching dust and how that makes me more entitled. This thread helps nothing. OP needs to HTFU You've bee watching DUST while a few of us have been playing it since last year, and have given CCP the benefit of the doubt when it comes to this game time and time again. Some of us are at the point where this is just ridiculous, and the lack of features is a bit alarming. I have been playing dust and eve for a while now thank you. And people have been playing eve for over 10 years. Dont pretend you or the OP have a monopoly on wait time. If you dont like being part of the test crew for this amazing game, and if you dont like waiting, then dont help us test it anymore Take a look at what eve was when they first started........look at it today. nuff said
Pvt Numnutz We're OWL Exterminators 31	Posted - 2013.02.18 18:36:00 - [4] - Quote I can see all your points. Sorry for getting a little heated but there are simply too many threads on this forum where people only ask CCP to hurry up. @ Nova knife "I don't care who you are. You honestly cannot tell me that what we have now is reasonable progress for more than an entire year of work. Mavado is entirely justified in his sentiments in the OP." I believe this is exactly why they say its in beta..... "Assuming anyone displeased with the current state of the beta is 'self entitled' is horribly ignorant and incorrect." True, to a point. However like i said in my OP, if you cant take waiting and are really that impatient dont rant about how it would be more convenient for you to have it now. I dont see how you think that telling them to hurry up is helping them.... "your smug, self-superior assumptions about others elsewhere, and actually take a good long hard look at the game?" never been called smug before. As for self superior...dude, were all dusters. The only reasons i hate posts like this is that what does it really do? OK we got it hurry up, ive seen probably one or two good replies in this thread that actually address this issue in a way that might actually help the CCP team with their development. I look at the game everyday and i see possibilities, my head spins with all the new ideas that could come from this game. I see how pretty my dropship looks and how CCP has fixed some of the mechanics that made them ineffective. I see my corp growing and myself meeting new people form around the world. I see a game that has changed the game for FPS and given it meaning. I cant go back to cod or halo, they simply dont have any meaning, they are just arcade shooters. and i think thats why you wont go back either, games just too deep and interesting. And i get why you want more content NOW, but guys, really, they just merged two MMO's into one massive constantly evolving galaxy, and you say they have made hardly any progress... @Raven Tesio "I would also suggest you learn about the games industry pretty damn quick instead of firmly planting your lips on CCPs posterior ... the game is now Public, the ONLY reason they are calling it a Beta still and getting away with it is people like you" "Is the game ready for the public or to be Live? ** NO, and I personally wouldn't have an issue with it being called a Beta IF they were not already charging players AND have linked it to systems within the Live Tranquility Server." "Right now DUST just isn't enjoyable to play, it feel so akward, cumbersome and overly complicated." All of these are why i think they still have it in beta.... They are not "charging" players. This is a F2P, if you want to buy some aur to support CCP then im sure they would appreciate. Have you concidered that maybe they are spending more time on diving down into the muck to tackle the issues your concerned about? How maybe they ARE trying to avoid the same mistakes by taking slow and really working on its core? Hey i could be wrong, CSM dust minutes arent out so who knows! They are going into uncharted waters, to my knowledge CCP hasnt made any MMOFPS till dust. So their NOOB's, i think you can agree that EVE online is still a higher quality game than most games on the market. This doesnt mean that we should shoot them down for trying to take a over franchised game type and turn it in to something new and exciting. I cant, i simply cant understand how you "fanboys" think that this is easy to pull off, that you can expect them to meet every deadline and that it wont require alot of testing and trial and error. Do you think you can bring absolute order to chaos theory? Do you think that you could predict what an openworld sandbox will evolve into and be two steps ahead of it? Do you think this is easy? If not then why ask for the rush? Why not let them work slowly with it and let it evolve so they can actually fix mistakes? ** CCP is human! Personally i like my missles, though i have not been playing as long as you, I dont have as much knowledge about FW or even null sec as you. Though i can say that from the break i took to when i came back i did see a large list of new changes. These things take time. Besides, a subscription MMO that you can use in game money to make free? and a free to play game? i need to look into how much money these guys get paid. Nova, Raven, if you ever want to squad up and talk about this in dust i would not mind, i think you both have good knowledge and i would like to discuss this issue with you, peacefully of course!

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