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THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Legacy Rising 33	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:18:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys, yesterday I finally tried out the laser rifle and was pretty disappointed. It works amazingly at long range, killing people before they even see what's coming. I noticed up close firing in their face can take 10+ seconds for them to die. I don't know about you guys, but that really doesn't make too much sense. I understand that the laser rifle isn't meant to be an up-close kind of gun but the low damage up close makes no sense. Any who, if someone can explain this to me or make this make sense that'd be excellent.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:20:00 - [2] - Quote Lasers do higher damage the further the range.
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:21:00 - [3] - Quote Other wise it would be a very OP weapon.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:21:00 - [4] - Quote Sees all the threads about how the Laser Rifle is pretty powerful Sigh.. Laser Rifle is insanely powerful at long range, pitiful at short. What is there to know? I mean, you can kill someone at range faster than any other weapon and once its fully heated that **** rips through vehicles too, aslong as they're in the distance.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 373	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:22:00 - [5] - Quote It has a minimum range as well as a maximum, if you're gonna use an LR you have to keep people in your optimum range and you have to keep the beam on them.
Mister Porter The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 7	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:22:00 - [6] - Quote It makes sense, everything has to have pros and cons... The answer for the short range problem i have found is to invest some SP into SMG ... I get half my kills with it
Villanor Aquarius Shattered Ascension 79	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:23:00 - [7] - Quote It functions very similarly to lasers in eve. The idea is it is highly focused for a certain range where it does great damage but outside of a small envelope of ranges on either side of that, the beam is very much not focused and does minimal to no damage. So you get awesome performance with less versatility. Take an SMG side arm with a couple levels of sidearm sharpshooter and it tends to cover your weakness pretty decently.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Legacy Rising 33	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:27:00 - [8] - Quote Hm I'd be fine with the horrible close range damage if the gun had a better range then the AR.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:32:00 - [9] - Quote He has a point though ... I know it gives it balance in gameplay terms but how can a lazer be any less effective at ANY range. The whole point of a lazer is it is a focused beam of particals all travelling parallel to each other ... as such it's intensity is only affected by things it passes through. Ok Ive just read the Info ... It uses a 'thermal cavity, within which an optic spacer converges and blends three individually pumped beams into a single oherent output' ... so far no reason for reduced damage at close range but then ... 'The additional distortion introduced by each beam rezults in weakened output at close range, but as the weapon warms up to mean operating temperature the wavelength stabilizes and the damage output increases significantly' So there you are ... you just have to rsad the Info and it all comes clear ! :-/
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:50:00 - [10] - Quote Almost thought this would be a counter-stupid Because idiots say LRs are OP, idiots can also say LRs are UP

usrevenge2 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 64	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:56:00 - [11] - Quote wonder if they will allow you to switch crystals for short and long range combat...
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 373	Posted - 2013.02.16 21:01:00 - [12] - Quote usrevenge2 wrote: wonder if they will allow you to switch crystals for short and long range combat... That's gonna turn people paranoid
Bhor Derri Legion of Eden 95	Posted - 2013.02.16 21:02:00 - [13] - Quote Use Mass Drivers
Medic 1879 Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 5	Posted - 2013.02.16 21:16:00 - [14] - Quote Bhor Derri wrote: Use Mass Drivers Quote for wisdom.
Kai Merovin Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.02.16 21:23:00 - [15] - Quote That's stupid and unrealistic. Being closer would not weaken a weapon. If anything the laser should be more powerful because you are closer to it's point of origin. A laser would disperse the further away you got from it. They're just making this **** up as they go.
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2013.02.16 21:28:00 - [16] - Quote Kai Merovin wrote: That's stupid and unrealistic. Being closer would not weaken a weapon. If anything the laser should be more powerful because you are closer to it's point of origin. A laser would disperse the further away you got from it. They're just making this **** up as they go. It's focused to deal maximum damage at a certain range. They're not making it up, they're mimicking EvE gameplay mechanics.
James Thraxton The Exemplars 73	Posted - 2013.02.16 21:35:00 - [17] - Quote Kai Merovin wrote: That's stupid and unrealistic. Being closer would not weaken a weapon. If anything the laser should be more powerful because you are closer to it's point of origin. A laser would disperse the further away you got from it. They're just making this **** up as they go. sorry, but you're wrong, lasers are calibrated to work so that they're focused along a spectrum until they join at a focal point, dealing the largest amount of damage when the beams come together, the lasers do less at closer ranges because the three beams are separately hitting a target and are unfocused. (the laser rifle in the game is said to have three, but this is for any number.) here's a short, simple example, but you get the general idea here (p.s. it's called SCIENCE!)
Zat Earthshatter Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 304	Posted - 2013.02.16 22:39:00 - [18] - Quote Light energy has to be at optimum focus to do any real damage - whip out a magnifying glass on a sunny day, and try to catch a dead leaf (in a proper spot, I don't want any housefires here). Lasers may seem like they don't need focus, but they are light just like the prior example; they can be focused, and they can lose focus - especially in air. Our LRs consist of a few different gain mediums (crystals) with what seems to be a temperature-adaptive lens array that focuses them together. These lenses have to heat up before they reach their optimal focal points, a design intended to extend the useful life of the weapon. When the target is not in the focal point (optimum range), then the individual lasers are not nearly as effective in melting armor or destabilizing shield containment fields. As for the overheat damage effect, I'm going to guess that it has some fancy plasma-based coolant that keeps the lens temperature at operating level while not refracting the lasers in any significant way. overheating would energize the plasma enough to break out of its containment at the weapon's cooling vent, causing a small Therm-damage explosion right in your face. P.S. I am not sure whether there are real-world lenses designed specifically to shift to a particular focal point when heated, but I'm quite sure that's why the LR has the ramp-up effect. EDIT: I remembered the three-beam portion of the official description, but the other scientific terms like "optic spacer" sound more like lens and coolant arrangements - which would still fit in with my analysis.


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