Well there is also a reason why "nobody" knows about the game. It's in beta and CCP simply hasn't started marketing it outside Eve's playerbase. Why would they? It's in beta. It's better to start marketing it when it's "finished".

most friends I talk with have no idea that the game either exists or that it's been released.

Come back in 10 years and let us know how it compares to now.

Does anyone know when its slated for release (tentatively)? Whens the light at the end of the tunnel?

its a beta ffs, we only have the very basic stuff in game so it can be TESTED and thats what people forget were here to test the game as they add stuff, this is not a released product

Well there is also a reason why "nobody" knows about the game. It's in beta and CCP simply hasn't started marketing it outside Eve's playerbase. Why would they? It's in beta. It's better to start marketing it when it's "finished".

I do admit that just getting more weapons and stuff won't keep the game floating. It NEEDS a deep MMO-experience to do so. Will that be dust itself or the Eve-universe is another matter. With this I mean that will "our" MMO-experience be more dust related rather than Eve-universe related. Eve-pilot could care less about our MMO-progess-to-add-weapon-modules (which I would feel to be a dust related mmo-experience). If the MMO-experience is closely tied to the eve-universe where we make in impact on eve...mmmmmm.

Then we come to another thing. We are mostly whining/speaking about how Evepilots like/hate us dusterts and that they care or don't care about our actions. Well...do dusters care about Evepilots? Are we concerned about the coalitions or the prices of jita? Do we even have ANY reason to do so?

I personally think the key to success is to get everyone to care about Eve-universe. Not so much which tool we use (eve, dust514).

I think this would a lot less of an issue for people if CCP was more transparent about what they're doing/working on. If they were more open with the community and communicated their plans more often and in more detail, then I think people would be more understanding of where the game is and where it's going.

The problem is that we try to communicate our issues with them, and when we get no information about what's being done, it makes it seem like nothing is being done. In general, the three things it seems we ever hear from CCP is soon, added to the backlog, or nothing at all.

I know devs don't like to give away their plans because they know they are highly tentative, but I think this community would be understanding of things changing. Just let us know what's going on.

This apprehension rippling through the community that ranges from slight malaise to full-blown panic about how the game will fail is only a temporary symptom (...)

EVE is dying for ten years now. DUST is indeed a part of New Eden.

[quote=ZiwZih]1. Eve is not dying, it has a very strong player base and is going strong. Are they growing to the millions no. But to say its dying is false. Currently CCP is changing there outlook from player retention to player base growing. Over the next year you will see their player base start to grow.
2. Dust 514 is 90% broken. Even though its in beta its hard for me to play anymore do to how broken it is. Once they fix all the problems I think they have something special.

To be blunt here, I don't see how Dust 514 is in anything but terrible shape at the moment.

The game is unstable with bugs and connectivity issues and loading times are painful. Someone at CCP should start a timer the moment they hit X and start up the game to the point that you've spawned on the battlefield. I mean, nice quarters and all but what actual purpose do they serve? The EVE Online community were quick to call out the Captain's Quarters for what they were, a gimmick that took up loading time.

Core gameplay in dust is alright, but nothing great. Bland would be the word to best describe it.

The game is severely lacking in content and depth. Yes, I know CCP have a long history of adding amazing amounts of content to EVE but this content was added over the course of a decade. Even with added game modes, suits for all races and the like I don't see how the game will become much more interesting any time soon. What's to keep people playing?

Corporation battles is the only thing which seems to have any kind of lasting appeal but we already have a few corporations that have gotten so far ahead with existing in-game knowledge from closed beta, maxing the SP cap from day 1 and using SP boosters that they face little challenge and can use expensive equipment without isk being a concern. I do expect these corporations eventually to tire of facing little to no resistance and move to the next game, sooner rather than later I believe. After all, what reason do they have to stick around?

The connectivity with EVE Online is a weak gimmick that even if fully implemented I do not see being very meaningful for the Dust 514 players. It's downright laughable how CCP markets the game as an MMOFPS, it's nothing like an MMOFPS and it plays little different from games like MAG or Halo.

The community on the forums is quite frankly horrid. I could sum it up with bad fads, people fuelling the status of a few corps , e-peen wars and that's that. There's very little actual sharing of game insight, like intelligent discussion on fitting and the like. There's no public community to speak of in game, looking at the forums I'm honestly thankful for it.

Yes, the game is in a Beta and we're certain to see some improvements, but just how much is limited. Fact of the matter as well is that people are already paying money for Dust 514 and that there are (supposedly) no further SP resets. If you ask me the label of beta is merely an excuse at this point for a rushed product. Dust 514 is already losing it's new car smell and once its gone it's going to be more difficult to attract new players to the game, especially considering how the SP system always has been deterring new players from EVE Online and how the SP gap grows larger each day.

The interest for Dust 514 seems very low, most friends I talk with have no idea that the game either exists or that it's been released. Those that do are reluctant to try it despite it being free, considering its "free to play" model I find it to be somewhat surprising that there aren't more people playing.

Now, I like EVE Online and I think Dust 514 has great potential, but as it currently stands I can't recommend the game to people on any other level than that it's free.

So... when IF ever will we see Dust 514's potential? Or is it gonna go the route of MAG and be let to rust in EVE Online as another Mechanic that didn't quite work out?