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Arrant Leet Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 28	Posted - 2013.02.13 02:54:00 - [1] - Quote The game is getting hard to enjoy honestly. These suits are just way too powerful. They're out classing my constant assault rifle headshots at max range like whut. I wouldn't even care, but seeing as CCP is a rookie developer and for some reason put a killcount in an objective based mode...it's starting to get annoying. It's either kills or objectives, stop mixing the two and then putting some blatantly unkillable overpowered class in the game. I don't even care if they already confirmed nerfs were coming, this post is to tell them that I don't care about EVE incorporation if I can't even enjoy DUST
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2013.02.13 02:56:00 - [2] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: The game is getting hard to enjoy honestly. These suits are just way too powerful. They're out classing my constant assault rifle headshots at max range like whut. I wouldn't even care, but seeing as CCP is a rookie developer and for some reason put a killcount in an objective based mode...it's starting to get annoying. It's either kills or objectives, stop mixing the two and then putting some blatantly unkillable overpowered class in the game. I don't even care if they already confirmed nerfs were coming, this post is to tell them that I don't care about EVE incorporation if I can't even enjoy DUST Tears, keep 'em comin.
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 326	Posted - 2013.02.13 02:57:00 - [3] - Quote LRN2AIM is now recruiting new blueberries.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 374	Posted - 2013.02.13 02:57:00 - [4] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: The game is getting hard to enjoy honestly. These suits are just way too powerful. They're out classing my constant assault rifle headshots at max range like whut. I wouldn't even care, but seeing as CCP is a rookie developer and for some reason put a killcount in an objective based mode...it's starting to get annoying. It's either kills or objectives, stop mixing the two and then putting some blatantly unkillable overpowered class in the game. I don't even care if they already confirmed nerfs were coming, this post is to tell them that I don't care about EVE incorporation if I can't even enjoy DUST What are you talking about? I run a LR on a logi suit and I can regularly kill heavies in CQ with a couple of well placed grenade's, not to mention that I cut them down at range.
Arrant Leet Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 28	Posted - 2013.02.13 02:59:00 - [5] - Quote over powered class
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:02:00 - [6] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: over powered class Under powered skills.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:03:00 - [7] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: over powered class overpowered tears
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 326	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:05:00 - [8] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Arrant Leet wrote: over powered class overpowered tears lol Damn, almost choked on my milkshake with that one
Anndy Dusty Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:07:00 - [9] - Quote more tears for my popcorn plz
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:10:00 - [10] - Quote Oops, it seems you've confused balanced with overpowered

Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:11:00 - [11] - Quote try out the heavy yourself. See if you can last. And CCP is doing good IMO.
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:13:00 - [12] - Quote Heavy's are ridiculously easy to 1v1 in a Scout suit for me.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:17:00 - [13] - Quote OP is bad OP is like every other random smurf that tries to approach heavies the same way they approach other suits
Talruum Tezztarozza Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 74	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:23:00 - [14] - Quote In fact, random smurfs also approach a HAV the same way they approach other suit. At least, they don't go around crying HAV is OP.
Sylwester Dziewiecki BetaMax. 33	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:38:00 - [15] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: The game is getting hard to enjoy honestly. These suits are just way too powerful. They're out classing my constant assault rifle headshots at max range like whut. I wouldn't even care, but seeing as CCP is a rookie developer and for some reason put a killcount in an objective based mode...it's starting to get annoying. It's either kills or objectives, stop mixing the two and then putting some blatantly unkillable overpowered class in the game. I don't even care if they already confirmed nerfs were coming, this post is to tell them that I don't care about EVE incorporation if I can't even enjoy DUST Heavy suit is to powerful for you, ok then why don't you use militia tank to kill those heavy? That simple
Drake435 SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 2	Posted - 2013.02.13 03:39:00 - [16] - Quote Don't bother using an assault rifle on a heavy. Most of the time, his HMG or other weapon will tear you up quicker than you can to him. That's why I switched to using a shotgun as a main on my assault class. If you plan on taking out heavies, grenades usually work due to the heavies having less mobility or take them out from afar.
Jackof All-Trades Bojo's School of the Trades 78	Posted - 2013.02.13 04:39:00 - [17] - Quote sigh Of course they are, they're supposed to be. At close range. The weakness of a heavy is when you put distance between them, where they're moderately short range HMG's can't even hit you. Otherwise, a heavy should always win a 1 vs. 1, or they're doing it wrong. And if you want to get close for the kill, use a shotgun. Seriously, it's a HEAVY. Don't they have vanguard classes or whatever from CoD or wherever you came from? They're meant to survive, and mow down enemies. They can't handle multiple units ganging up on them, surviving long enough for them to have to reload, or being too far away. After you implement my tactics, then I'm open to hear your complaints.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2013.02.13 04:43:00 - [18] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Arrant Leet wrote: The game is getting hard to enjoy honestly. These suits are just way too powerful. They're out classing my constant assault rifle headshots at max range like whut. I wouldn't even care, but seeing as CCP is a rookie developer and for some reason put a killcount in an objective based mode...it's starting to get annoying. It's either kills or objectives, stop mixing the two and then putting some blatantly unkillable overpowered class in the game. I don't even care if they already confirmed nerfs were coming, this post is to tell them that I don't care about EVE incorporation if I can't even enjoy DUST Tears, keep 'em comin. Mmmmm heavy tears my favourite kind.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2013.02.13 04:54:00 - [19] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Arrant Leet wrote: The game is getting hard to enjoy honestly. These suits are just way too powerful. They're out classing my constant assault rifle headshots at max range like whut. I wouldn't even care, but seeing as CCP is a rookie developer and for some reason put a killcount in an objective based mode...it's starting to get annoying. It's either kills or objectives, stop mixing the two and then putting some blatantly unkillable overpowered class in the game. I don't even care if they already confirmed nerfs were coming, this post is to tell them that I don't care about EVE incorporation if I can't even enjoy DUST Tears, keep 'em comin. Mmmmm heavy tears my favourite kind. indeed
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2013.02.13 04:56:00 - [20] - Quote I call BS. I decided to try the heavy suit again so fired one up. Even got the flux grenades and everything so I could have it super easy. Played maybe 4 or 8 games of ambush. 10 kills 20 deaths. If the heavy was all that even I should be able to rock out with my **** out in a heavy suit. But nope. Feel like there is poop in my pants and I am just a chubby target for duvolles. Heavy sucks and I actually have to give props to the players that stick with that load out and those fittings. I don't see how they can take it. Game after game chugging around even the tiny ambush maps like you have shoes full of sand. I guess it is just not my style. Give me a scout any day of the weak. I'll get more kills with a militia shot gun on a throw away scout fitting during a suicide run to hack an objective or place a drop uplink than I will during an entire match in a fat suit.

Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 642	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:35:00 - [21] - Quote If it's OP, skill up into it. Getting 100-0 games should be easy right? Cuz you know, heavies are OP and all.
DropKickSuicide Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 74	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:41:00 - [22] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: If it's OP, skill up into it. Getting 100-0 games should be easy right? Cuz you know, heavies are OP and all. Well I agree that it is OP I should not be able to go 100-0 in a single Ambush match with Millitia gear and ZERO skills specd, I mean HELL you know is bad when I can out snipe Sniper wit a HMG
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:45:00 - [23] - Quote DropKickSuicide wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: If it's OP, skill up into it. Getting 100-0 games should be easy right? Cuz you know, heavies are OP and all. Well I agree that it is OP I should not be able to go 100-0 in a single Ambush match with Millitia gear and ZERO skills specd, I mean HELL you know is bad when I can out snipe Sniper wit a HMG Where the hell did you find an HMG accurate and where can I get one?
Boomer Dues Mortis D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 40	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:46:00 - [24] - Quote I think heavies are fine, people just do not know how to kill them. Grab a LR,MD, or a shotgun and get to work, if you are good you should be able to kill me. I laugh at these people that try to fight me head on and just stand there, they don't even strafe. But the game has to be like cod where everyone is the same and it is just who shoots first.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:51:00 - [25] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: DropKickSuicide wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: If it's OP, skill up into it. Getting 100-0 games should be easy right? Cuz you know, heavies are OP and all. Well I agree that it is OP I should not be able to go 100-0 in a single Ambush match with Millitia gear and ZERO skills specd, I mean HELL you know is bad when I can out snipe Sniper wit a HMG Where the hell did you find an HMG accurate and where can I get one? It's the assault variant. Not that good though.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 642	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:54:00 - [26] - Quote DropKickSuicide wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: If it's OP, skill up into it. Getting 100-0 games should be easy right? Cuz you know, heavies are OP and all. Well I agree that it is OP I should not be able to go 100-0 in a single Ambush match with Millitia gear and ZERO skills specd, I mean HELL you know is bad when I can out snipe Sniper wit a HMG Diiiaaam...outsnipe a sniper? Where can I get the Sniper HMG? The snipers I kill, I jump in my LAV, run my heavy big *as up a mountain, and gun him down. I would love to snipe snipers though. HMG buff CCP? Yes please
Domingo Cervezas Cult of the Warrior 15	Posted - 2013.02.13 05:59:00 - [27] - Quote They appear OP because the majority of people haven't completely figured out how to fight them. When more people figure this out then the tide will turn until the next new supposedly-OP thing is discovered. You know a bad heavy when you can do the dance with them while they empty out their clip. Then it's my turn, right in their head! (Hint: clue to one tactic, among others, you can use)
DropKickSuicide Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 74	Posted - 2013.02.13 06:19:00 - [28] - Quote The trick to out sniping snipers is to use the MILLITIA only, and DO NOT spec any skills into HMG then hold fire till almost overheating and its SO ACCURATE you can kill snipers EASY MODE
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2013.02.13 06:21:00 - [29] - Quote Protip: Don't walk up behind the Heavy so you can try to pistol whip him to death. It doesn't work. I seriously had some guy try this the other day.
Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 45	Posted - 2013.02.13 06:36:00 - [30] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: The game is getting hard to enjoy honestly. These suits are just way too powerful. They're out classing my constant assault rifle headshots at max range like whut. I wouldn't even care, but seeing as CCP is a rookie developer and for some reason put a killcount in an objective based mode...it's starting to get annoying. It's either kills or objectives, stop mixing the two and then putting some blatantly unkillable overpowered class in the game. I don't even care if they already confirmed nerfs were coming, this post is to tell them that I don't care about EVE incorporation if I can't even enjoy DUST If you don't enjoy the game, don't play it. The fact of the matter is, that if you close in on a heavy, yes they will be able to wipe the floor with you if they are carrying an HMG. There are plenty of people who take down heavies without any problem. Learn how to adapt to the situation. Don't complain about it. Calling CCP a rookie developer is also kind of ignorant. They have been developing and polishing a game for going on ten years, there are quite a few developers out there that don't have near the experience as CCP.

Thumb Green Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2013.02.13 07:05:00 - [31] - Quote I thought they were a bit op when I first started playing but now I feel kind of bad for them. I mean if I catch them right; I can take one out using starter gear without having to reload; if not that then a well cooked grenade to soften them up and a couple rounds to the head to finish them off. The key is just aim for the head and they'll drop like a bag of bricks. They still mess me up a lot though; especially in skirmish when I spawn right in front of one, which seems to happen a lot.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 11	Posted - 2013.02.13 08:32:00 - [32] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: The game is getting hard to enjoy honestly. These suits are just way too powerful. They're out classing my constant assault rifle headshots at max range like whut. I wouldn't even care, but seeing as CCP is a rookie developer and for some reason put a killcount in an objective based mode...it's starting to get annoying. It's either kills or objectives, stop mixing the two and then putting some blatantly unkillable overpowered class in the game. I don't even care if they already confirmed nerfs were coming, this post is to tell them that I don't care about EVE incorporation if I can't even enjoy DUST It's a BETA (TM) L2P (TM)
LoveNewlooy WarRavens 6	Posted - 2013.02.13 08:39:00 - [33] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: The game is getting hard to enjoy honestly. These suits are just way too powerful. They're out classing my constant assault rifle headshots at max range like whut. I wouldn't even care, but seeing as CCP is a rookie developer and for some reason put a killcount in an objective based mode...it's starting to get annoying. It's either kills or objectives, stop mixing the two and then putting some blatantly unkillable overpowered class in the game. I don't even care if they already confirmed nerfs were coming, this post is to tell them that I don't care about EVE incorporation if I can't even enjoy DUST im pretty sure u dont move when u shooting them. i never has a problem killing a heavie when i keep moving!
Entrei Blackstorm ZionTCD Legacy Rising 49	Posted - 2013.02.13 09:13:00 - [34] - Quote Aighun wrote: I call BS. I decided to try the heavy suit again so fired one up. Even got the flux grenades and everything so I could have it super easy. Played maybe 4 or 8 games of ambush. 10 kills 20 deaths. If the heavy was all that even I should be able to rock out with my **** out in a heavy suit. But nope. Feel like there is poop in my pants and I am just a chubby target for duvolles. Heavy sucks and I actually have to give props to the players that stick with that load out and those fittings. I don't see how they can take it. Game after game chugging around even the tiny ambush maps like you have shoes full of sand. I guess it is just not my style. Give me a scout any day of the weak. I'll get more kills with a militia shot gun on a throw away scout fitting during a suicide run to hack an objective or place a drop uplink than I will during an entire match in a fat suit. +1 It's not a style for everyone and yep, a shot gunner can give them fits, as can someone from range, as can someone hopping around on a pogo stick. It walks slow, runs slow, turns slow. Can take awhile to get a feel for the suit.
Hellmaker55 FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 2	Posted - 2013.02.13 09:35:00 - [35] - Quote another n00b complain sigh
Arrant Leet Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 28	Posted - 2013.02.13 18:50:00 - [36] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: sigh Of course they are, they're supposed to be. At close range. The weakness of a heavy is when you put distance between them, where they're moderately short range HMG's can't even hit you. Otherwise, a heavy should always win a 1 vs. 1, or they're doing it wrong. And if you want to get close for the kill, use a shotgun. Seriously, it's a HEAVY. Don't they have vanguard classes or whatever from CoD or wherever you came from? They're meant to survive, and mow down enemies. They can't handle multiple units ganging up on them, surviving long enough for them to have to reload, or being too far away. After you implement my tactics, then I'm open to hear your complaints. Did I not say in my original post that I put a full clip of headshots into a heavy from MAX assault rifle range and he still beat me? i'm not new to shooters, if I see a heavy I make distance and throw grenades, but sometimes you don't even get a chance. Maybe top assault gear > top heavy gear...but in the lower tiers I feel like it's no contest.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2013.02.13 19:01:00 - [37] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: sigh Of course they are, they're supposed to be. At close range. The weakness of a heavy is when you put distance between them, where they're moderately short range HMG's can't even hit you. Otherwise, a heavy should always win a 1 vs. 1, or they're doing it wrong. And if you want to get close for the kill, use a shotgun. Seriously, it's a HEAVY. Don't they have vanguard classes or whatever from CoD or wherever you came from? They're meant to survive, and mow down enemies. They can't handle multiple units ganging up on them, surviving long enough for them to have to reload, or being too far away. After you implement my tactics, then I'm open to hear your complaints. Did I not say in my original post that I put a full clip of headshots into a heavy from MAX assault rifle range and he still beat me? i'm not new to shooters, if I see a heavy I make distance and throw grenades, but sometimes you don't even get a chance. Maybe top assault gear > top heavy gear...but in the lower tiers I feel like it's no contest. 1. Its a magazine, not a clip. LOLOL 2. sure they were headshots? get gooder. 3. Upgrade your internet, ask daddy to open the wallet. Also: lets say for argument, 48 rounds, at 30 dmg each, all hit to the head, and for giggles, say 120% dmg. 48x30x1.20=1728 dmg, nearly double what you can fit on a FULLY specced standard heavy. So you are either a liar or just completely ignorant. Either way, full of ****.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 642	Posted - 2013.02.13 19:21:00 - [38] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: sigh Of course they are, they're supposed to be. At close range. The weakness of a heavy is when you put distance between them, where they're moderately short range HMG's can't even hit you. Otherwise, a heavy should always win a 1 vs. 1, or they're doing it wrong. And if you want to get close for the kill, use a shotgun. Seriously, it's a HEAVY. Don't they have vanguard classes or whatever from CoD or wherever you came from? They're meant to survive, and mow down enemies. They can't handle multiple units ganging up on them, surviving long enough for them to have to reload, or being too far away. After you implement my tactics, then I'm open to hear your complaints. Did I not say in my original post that I put a full clip of headshots into a heavy from MAX assault rifle range and he still beat me? i'm not new to shooters, if I see a heavy I make distance and throw grenades, but sometimes you don't even get a chance. Maybe top assault gear > top heavy gear...but in the lower tiers I feel like it's no contest. At max assault range? lulwat? I agree the HMG can be a bit ridiculous with sharpshooter maxed out, but an AR's range > HMG range. At longer distances the spread of an HMG is insane, so if you die at range to an HMG, you were either standing still, or you were ripped already. Your AR's range isn't maxed btw. Unless you have Sharpshooter lvl 5, you haven't even come close. Maybe it's maxed for YOUR range. Bad heavies are easy to take down, and 90% of heavies out there are noobs. You'll run into a good heavy once in a while who knows what he's doing.
Panoscape BurgezzE.T.F 107	Posted - 2013.02.13 19:30:00 - [39] - Quote OP is clueless. A well SP/skilled assault AR guy can rip my heavy in seconds. And a shotti speed suit can kill my heavy in one to two shots. Heavy's are fine, get gud.
Vel'sar Altruin Shadow Company HQ 5	Posted - 2013.02.13 19:34:00 - [40] - Quote Most people that fight me run at me head on. From ten feet. They don't dance, they run at me head on like in Halo with Assault Rifles. Its really rather funny. Every once in a while I get someone who dances around and makes my life hell as they move faster than I turn. I still usually win though because they don't move enough. Then I get the people who throw cooked grenades at my feet and blow me away. Really, I thought Heavies were OP, then I tried it. It is harder than it looks.

Mhizrak Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.02.13 19:58:00 - [41] - Quote The heavy, compared to every other suit, has two disadvantages: 1) Slower 2) Uglier Use these weaknesses against them to win.
Ima Leet Imperfects Negative-Feedback 321	Posted - 2013.02.13 20:00:00 - [42] - Quote just to clarify this "Leet" is an imposter. I am not related to the OP in any way
General Erick Onslaught Inc 24	Posted - 2013.02.13 20:29:00 - [43] - Quote Arrant Leet wrote: over powered class I'm ordering a pizza, who else wants one?


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