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Citrutex
The High and Mighty
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:05:00 -
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Immortal soldiers dont care about death, and neither should you.
Replace stat with isk efficiency instead.
an 'aurum destroyed' stat would be kind of neat too. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:18:00 -
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Is KDR the end all be all of stats? No. But it does have its place as it is a decent basis for how good someone is at the fundamental aspect of killing and staying alive in an FPS. Whether people like it or not, kills and deaths do matter and can help determine victory (even in skirmish).
The thing about statistics is that they are completely conditional, there is no one that reigns over all others. Different stats show proficiency at different aspects of a game. The solution isn't to remove things like KDR, but to add other forms of stats so that you can base your judgment of someone on the criteria that is important to you or the given situation. |
Bigglesworth McQueen
On The Brink
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:22:00 -
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A 'time in battle' stat would be nice.
I have a negative KDR, but more WP than players who have 1000 or more kills than me.
The only stats worth a damn are win/loss ratio (over a certain threshold of games played) and WP per minute.
Everything else is novelty. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:26:00 -
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Ya good idea get rid of kdr so you dont know anything this guy could farm wp and then cause his team to get cloned in skirmish, sorry but i say NO to this idea |
Jack Sharkey42
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:33:00 -
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Hmm, but it DOES make it harder for people like Logis to get an accurate indication of how well they're doing. Obviously lets not get rid of it, but maybe an "Average WP/Game" stat or something like that? |
Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:38:00 -
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K/D ratio is necessary, specially in a game where you lost the battle, if people gets kill to many times.
But an "Overall" stats will be nice ;
K/D + WP + W/L (Team Work Stats TWS )
That way we can check who the best overall players are. Aka "Best team players" |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.02.11 16:05:00 -
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Until we get more corp stuff all of the stats just show how good you are at pub stomping the less fortunate/new players that join the game.
I propose a STAT wipe at release (nothing else affected just a stat reset) so that once we have more options of things to do we get a better idea of how people are affecting the game.
Also this could be done once matchmaking actually works and isn't just saying what the hell lets put the good vs the bad and make them HTFU |
Raxsus Lannister
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.11 16:06:00 -
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As a Heavy I'm against this. KD/R as of now is the only real way to say a heavy is good or not. I know a Heavy with a 4.0 KD/R is better than the Heavy with a 1.5 KD/R |
Lunamaria Hawkeye
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.11 16:56:00 -
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Citrutex wrote:Immortal soldiers dont care about death, and neither should you.
Replace stat with isk efficiency instead.
an 'aurum destroyed' stat would be kind of neat too.
While immortal mercenaries might not care about kdr, people who play FPS do, therefore it will stay. ISK Efficiency should be added as well. |
Kaathe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.11 17:43:00 -
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KDR is just another way to look at how people are doing during a match and/or during your life as a merc.
Personally I'm okay with KDR, and how people interpret it's value is also a personal opinion too.
Yet, the notion of taking out a stat that people look and relate with does not mean that the game will be any better; it means that the game will get harder to understand.
No to taking out KDR stat
but...
I do support the "war points per minute" stat as that, in my opinion, shows how each player is effective and "supporting" of his/her team.
On a side note: KDR will mainly be used for the SOON E-Sports feature that CCP announced long long long time ago. Once that gameplay is out all of these "KDR needs to be removed" threads will disappear. |
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