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lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 07:49:00 - [1] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: I'm pretty sure their shields are already practically the same as everybody else's, and unlike shields, armor doesn't recover on it's own. At higher levels, assault suits can equip more shields than heavies, so what perks are their to being a heavy again? The perk is that it requires no true skill to use the HMG http://youtu.be/EW37vsY2NMQ
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 07:55:00 - [2] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Want to kill a heavy? Mass Driver or Sniper RIfle from afar. This isn't COD people, where you can just run and gun and expect to survive. You play to your strengths in a team, or you die quick. I found using a exile AR with 2 complex dmg mods and skilled 3 into AR profeciency takes them down rather fast I have found no need at this juncture of the game to break the gek or duvolle AR out full time, but only as a payback novelity for the people that feel the need to run them 24/7
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 07:58:00 - [3] - Quote Nelo Angel0 wrote: million isk question: if it takes no true skill to be a heavy . Why are there so many GEK38 assaults? Have you actually tried shooting the GEK at a distance?
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 08:07:00 - [4] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: I'm pretty sure their shields are already practically the same as everybody else's, and unlike shields, armor doesn't recover on it's own. At higher levels, assault suits can equip more shields than heavies, so what perks are their to being a heavy again? The perk is that it requires no true skill to use the HMG http://youtu.be/EW37vsY2NMQ H'mm I could have sworn you needed to invest skill points to use them, is their a militia variant I missed somewhere? you can start a new character and need to play around 10-15 rounds to farm the isk, and that is enough to get you in the Type II and have the HMG. I say 10-15 rounds for players familar with the game, may be slightly more for newer players.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 08:09:00 - [5] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: I'm pretty sure their shields are already practically the same as everybody else's, and unlike shields, armor doesn't recover on it's own. At higher levels, assault suits can equip more shields than heavies, so what perks are their to being a heavy again? The perk is that it requires no true skill to use the HMG http://youtu.be/EW37vsY2NMQ claims it takes no true skill to use posts video playing with skill against people without You didn't make your point. And you make no point either. I am playing with whom they put me in the round with jackwad
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 08:11:00 - [6] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: I'm pretty sure their shields are already practically the same as everybody else's, and unlike shields, armor doesn't recover on it's own. At higher levels, assault suits can equip more shields than heavies, so what perks are their to being a heavy again? The perk is that it requires no true skill to use the HMG http://youtu.be/EW37vsY2NMQ claims it takes no true skill to use posts video playing with skill against people without You didn't make your point. And you make no point either. I am playing with whom they put me in the round with jackwad I have videos of me in this suit taking some of the stronger people in the game down, do I need to post that? will that prove my point that a 700k sp heavy with hmg is op?
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 08:22:00 - [7] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: you can start a new character and need to play around 10-15 rounds to farm the isk, and that is enough to get you in the Type II and have the HMG. I say 10-15 rounds for players familar with the game, may be slightly more for newer players. Or I can take those points and invest in assault rifles, or anything else really, and some damage modifiers. There, heavies dead I play a heavy, it's nowhere near as easy as you claim it is. My suits also cost a lot more than everybody else's, so they better offer some damn good protection. Lets play together and not argue, you have your X amount of SP heavy, and I will break out Pimp Hand Strong my ALT heavy that has 700k sp, and we will compare on some ambush rounds, I am down with that. We can argue and debate till we are blue in the face, and still will not agree.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 08:24:00 - [8] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Heavies are only a problem for people who don't play as a squad. DING DING..........
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 08:37:00 - [9] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: you can start a new character and need to play around 10-15 rounds to farm the isk, and that is enough to get you in the Type II and have the HMG. I say 10-15 rounds for players familar with the game, may be slightly more for newer players. Or I can take those points and invest in assault rifles, or anything else really, and some damage modifiers. There, heavies dead I play a heavy, it's nowhere near as easy as you claim it is. My suits also cost a lot more than everybody else's, so they better offer some damn good protection. Lets play together and not argue, you have your X amount of SP heavy, and I will break out Pimp Hand Strong my ALT heavy that has 700k sp, and we will compare on some ambush rounds, I am down with that. We can argue and debate till we are blue in the face, and still will not agree. My point wasn't about isk/skill costs, it's that other builds can counter heavies. Instead they decide to get within their range and try to out-damage them, of course they're going to die. Get out of their range and snipe them, or close the distance and blast them with a shotgun, but don't stand right in front of their HMG's. I understand your point and it is very valid, the only point I was ever making that keeps going over everybodies heads is that you can get into this build from the get go and wreck people, either it be new bros, or old bros. When I say op, it is in the sense that it is to powerfull to start out with. I have heard that later on the heavies will get owned, and I will say this, The good heavies that are known, i never saw any of them struggle at the end of a build like they claim happens, always good strong numbers. Perhaps later on it is not as easy to rip people to shreds and others are able to deal damage to you. I enjoy the heavy, and enjoy the POWER and OP that it is, and take advatage of it everytime I play with it.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 08:51:00 - [10] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: = The good heavies that are known, i never saw any of them struggle at the end of a build like they claim happens, always good strong numbers. Perhaps later on it is not as easy to rip people to shreds and others are able to deal damage to you. I enjoy the heavy, and enjoy the POWER and OP that it is, and take advatage of it everytime I play with it. What numbers have you seen, that you haven't seen from a guy running assault? A shtty player in heavy armor is still a shtty player. A good player in heavy armor will probably get flanked by a good player in assault/scout/logistics. Any heavy will still get over run by swarms, if they don't have any support. there is good and bad people behind either weapon, why stray from my main point? the only point I was ever making that keeps going over everybodies heads is that you can get into this build from the get go and wreck people, either it be new bros, or old bros. When I say op, it is in the sense that it is to powerfull to start out with.

lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 09:00:00 - [11] - Quote DropKickSuicide wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: lowratehitman wrote: = The good heavies that are known, i never saw any of them struggle at the end of a build like they claim happens, always good strong numbers. Perhaps later on it is not as easy to rip people to shreds and others are able to deal damage to you. I enjoy the heavy, and enjoy the POWER and OP that it is, and take advatage of it everytime I play with it. What numbers have you seen, that you haven't seen from a guy running assault? A shtty player in heavy armor is still a shtty player. A good player in heavy armor will probably get flanked by a good player in assault/scout/logistics. Any heavy will still get over run by swarms, if they don't have any support. there is good and bad people behind either weapon, why stray from my main point? the only point I was ever making that keeps going over everybodies heads is that you can get into this build from the get go and wreck people, either it be new bros, or old bros. When I say op, it is in the sense that it is to powerfull to start out with. You can get into any build off the get go. I run strictly Heavy tho most of the time I use FG I do use the HMG, Just to see if I was as "OP" as everyone says I been using my Logi assualt Starter Fit. I feel like a ******* SUPER HERO, I can run at insane speeds, I can even JUMP OVER RAILS! and my scores at the end of the game are almost the same as running my Type 1 Heavy. Ok I might have a few more deathes then normal but thats my own fault ( charging HMGs head on ) The Range and Accuracy of the AR is awesome compared to the HMG. try the type II heavy, you can get that from the start, it can almost jump over rails, and dominates the Type 1,but that is just prefrence...imo
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 09:12:00 - [12] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: Today I took on 3 new berries in heavies solo with my heavy. A bad player is still a bad player and TBH if you're dying super easily to all heavies you need to reevaluate your build and your tactics. Maybe I am just humble or lucky either one, cause i will not admit to being a good player, but I have done the same things with opposing heavies, maybe the class is not op, i just know how to operate it.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 284	Posted - 2013.02.11 09:14:00 - [13] - Quote it only takes one time trying to learn(not able to jump rails) , i still like being able to run neck and neck with assault players though.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 402	Posted - 2013.03.22 06:19:00 - [14] - Quote the BAD FurrY wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: I'm pretty sure their shields are already practically the same as everybody else's, and unlike shields, armor doesn't recover on it's own. At higher levels, assault suits can equip more shields than heavies, so what perks are their to being a heavy again? The perk is that it requires no true skill to use the HMG http://youtu.be/EW37vsY2NMQ 1st off i washed that vid most of the scrubs you were killing were scrubs so yeah EZ now how bout you doing that in a game were your not vsing COD retards! dud its like saying tanks are OP go into a game were no one runs AV bring a blaster with you yaeh your going to rip some new ass hole but join a game where there not retards and you fined out its not so EZ I have a HMG ATL trust me i know what im saying when i say you cant say in one game becus all the red dots were running in the open and not trying to flank you or standing in front of you tryng to fire as fast as your Hmg with a AR makes the HMG OP. like i said VS players with skill and tape it ! 2nd ambush is not a real game its for Isk grinding ! I did not know we was still talking about a video that was made at the start of a build. Where do I start? hmmm... If you happened to watch any of my follow up videos you would see that what made this op AT THE TIME, is that it was, the start of a build. And i have shown many many many many people how to start off in this build and have been thanked many of times with them saying... I am glad i started over and watched your "How to" get in the type II heavy with HMG due to it being so much easier. I am not going to just smear a class nor did I, I simply said this is easy and takes no skill. I broke that old Pimp Hand Strong class out the other day, it has 700k sp going up heavys with 6 million sp and I was getting laid to rest....
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 402	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:13:00 - [15] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: I'm pretty sure their shields are already practically the same as everybody else's, and unlike shields, armor doesn't recover on it's own. At higher levels, assault suits can equip more shields than heavies, so what perks are their to being a heavy again? The perk is that it requires no true skill to use the HMG http://youtu.be/EW37vsY2NMQ Cause bunny hopping around in lag + a completely ****** frame rate takes so much more skill amirite Most of the time I just camp with my Viziam, no bunny hopping or frame rate loss, unless I feel the urge to break the proto AR out. I am too old to be a twitch player, I used all those skills on usless game like frogger.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 402	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:15:00 - [16] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: lowratehitman wrote: the BAD FurrY wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: I'm pretty sure their shields are already practically the same as everybody else's, and unlike shields, armor doesn't recover on it's own. At higher levels, assault suits can equip more shields than heavies, so what perks are their to being a heavy again? The perk is that it requires no true skill to use the HMG http://youtu.be/EW37vsY2NMQ 1st off i washed that vid most of the scrubs you were killing were scrubs so yeah EZ now how bout you doing that in a game were your not vsing COD retards! dud its like saying tanks are OP go into a game were no one runs AV bring a blaster with you yaeh your going to rip some new ass hole but join a game where there not retards and you fined out its not so EZ I have a HMG ATL trust me i know what im saying when i say you cant say in one game becus all the red dots were running in the open and not trying to flank you or standing in front of you tryng to fire as fast as your Hmg with a AR makes the HMG OP. like i said VS players with skill and tape it ! 2nd ambush is not a real game its for Isk grinding ! I did not know we was still talking about a video that was made at the start of a build. Where do I start? hmmm... If you happened to watch any of my follow up videos you would see that what made this op AT THE TIME, is that it was, the start of a build. And i have shown many many many many people how to start off in this build and have been thanked many of times with them saying... I am glad i started over and watched your "How to" get in the type II heavy with HMG due to it being so much easier. I am not going to just smear a class nor did I, I simply said this is easy and takes no skill. I broke that old Pimp Hand Strong class out the other day, it has 700k sp going up heavys with 6 million sp and I was getting laid to rest.... The problem I have with that is no one bothered to tell those folks who invested millions of sp into the heavy class this: Its not worth it to go beyond heavy suit level one and HMG level one. Instead those folks saw videos like yours and went yeah!! and they invested heavily into the lol! heavy class. And now they discover that they are kittened and need to spend two months of sp into logi, assault or scout classes. How much better if you had started off your videos with a WARNING that the heavy class was for two weeks at best. Hey, you are right... but there is one thing you left out about this game, and it is that you have to learn on your own and the flavor of the month changes, well about once a month or every nerf.