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Posted - 2013.02.11 07:57:00 -
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million isk question: if it takes no true skill to be a heavy . Why are there so many GEK38 assaults? |
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Posted - 2013.02.11 07:59:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Want to kill a heavy? Mass Driver or Sniper RIfle from afar.
This isn't COD people, where you can just run and gun and expect to survive. You play to your strengths in a team, or you die quick. You forgot meh LR. How rude.
le LR is just stupid against me fatboi just point and proceed to kill my everything |
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Posted - 2013.02.11 08:00:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:million isk question: if it takes no true skill to be a heavy . Why are there so many GEK38 assaults? Have you actually tried shooting the GEK at a distance?
no but i do have a assualt and logibro sub under my heavy and i'm taking heavies out with the MLT soooo |
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Posted - 2013.02.11 08:01:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Want to kill a heavy? Mass Driver or Sniper RIfle from afar.
This isn't COD people, where you can just run and gun and expect to survive. You play to your strengths in a team, or you die quick. You forgot meh LR. How rude. le LR is just stupid against me fatboi just point and proceed to kill my everything I am the official heavy cooker.
sometimes to be nice i let type1 heavies see me before i burn the image of a type2 heavy sniping them with a LR from afar
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Posted - 2013.02.11 08:19:00 -
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James-5955 wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:million isk question: if it takes no true skill to be a heavy . Why are there so many GEK38 assaults? Because assault & AR are the standard of FPS. I do think that playing heavy requires skill, playing any role requires some degree of skill. I won't admit that it's a difficult role to play however, it's not hard to stay within areas where your HMG is effective as it has quite the range and accuracy. It also isn't that difficult to stay alive without a logi after you get into a type II suit, after I got my alt into a type II I was having massive lols.. Nice sprinting speed, many assaults could never get away from me; though maybe I'm just good at cutting corners. Most people are going to flock to what they're most used to when checking out a new game. There's a lot to learn and Dust is different than a lot of shooters, so why not pick a gun and suit that fits a familiar play style at least while you figure the game out? I think that's pretty logical reasoning, it's why I went and specialized into AR. It's the staple weapon of shooters, jack of all trades, capable of all but not the best at any. Being able to kill 8 people in a timely manner without having to reload is awesome, walking tank with a gun that has good range & kills insanely quickly? Pffft. Sheesh, I gotta stop thinking about it.. making me want to play my heavy. IDK, my 2 cents.
my logic for heavies is it's not that their job is easy to do; their just very effective at doing it( or something along that line). But yeah that typeII heavy really makes a difference when clearing out an objective. The heavy has just enough speed to cut corners and enough shields to hold back SMG and ARs to get to that corner without losing armor. Once your in position it becomes a man hunt for the small fry who had the ******* to shoot at you.
i love my fatboy
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Posted - 2013.02.11 08:23:00 -
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Irish Syn wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:million isk question: if it takes no true skill to be a heavy . Why are there so many GEK38 assaults? Actually my favorite point, out of all the players I run across the fewest suits I see are heavies. This game isn't about killing. Obviously Heavies job is to hold their ground and kill, so they will be more powerful at killing than everyone else. This isn't overpowered, it's by design. If you run across a heavy your best bet is to run, their speed and tracking is horrible. I've managed to be caught in their line of fire and run away and survive several times. They can't chase you and their radars can't track you, use it to your advantage. Stop playing it like every other shooter where everyone has the same speed and hitpoints and every weapon is supposed to stand toe to toe with every other weapon. James-5955 wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:million isk question: if it takes no true skill to be a heavy . Why are there so many GEK38 assaults? Because assault & AR are the standard of FPS. I do think that playing heavy requires skill, playing any role requires some degree of skill. I won't admit that it's a difficult role to play however, it's not hard to stay within areas where your HMG is effective as it has quite the range and accuracy. It also isn't that difficult to stay alive without a logi after you get into a type II suit, after I got my alt into a type II I was having massive lols.. Nice sprinting speed, many assaults could never get away from me; though maybe I'm just good at cutting corners. Most people are going to flock to what they're most used to when checking out a new game. There's a lot to learn and Dust is different than a lot of shooters, so why not pick a gun and suit that fits a familiar play style at least while you figure the game out? I think that's pretty logical reasoning, it's why I went and specialized into AR. It's the staple weapon of shooters, jack of all trades, capable of all but not the best at any. IDK, my 2 cents. Heavy may not be one of the most challenging roles to play decently, but still requires some skill if you are holding down a base to never give it up, or if you are charging with a squad to prioritize targets on the spot to keep your buddies alive. Also keep this in mind, if you are a heavy and your team doesn't have most the null cannons, there's no much you can do about it directly. You are too slow and too detectable to try and lone wolf capture them all back. Heavies become very dependent on the team for Skirmish at least.
oh wow you just reminded me of the one time i went 36/2 with my heavy and all i did was take an objective and hold it against all people stupid enough to enter one at a time into a CQC area with my heavy..... i think a shotgun scout took me out though or maybe i just didnt die. anyway we won thanks to my fortitude xD
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Posted - 2013.02.11 08:24:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:million isk question: if it takes no true skill to be a heavy . Why are there so many GEK38 assaults? I've seen Heavies with Gek Assaults.
so have i but their very rare and a majority of the time(IMO) their MLT heavies not STD or ADV so their just assualts running MLT heavy
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Posted - 2013.02.11 08:37:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Heavies are only a problem for people who don't play as a squad. DING DING.......... heavies can run in a squad too.
the way heavies are talked about youd think they were all soloing :/ |
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DropKickSuicide wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:lowratehitman wrote:= The good heavies that are known, i never saw any of them struggle at the end of a build like they claim happens, always good strong numbers. Perhaps later on it is not as easy to rip people to shreds and others are able to deal damage to you.
I enjoy the heavy, and enjoy the POWER and OP that it is, and take advatage of it everytime I play with it. What numbers have you seen, that you haven't seen from a guy running assault? A sh*tty player in heavy armor is still a sh*tty player. A good player in heavy armor will probably get flanked by a good player in assault/scout/logistics. Any heavy will still get over run by swarms, if they don't have any support. there is good and bad people behind either weapon, why stray from my main point? the only point I was ever making that keeps going over everybodies heads is that you can get into this build from the get go and wreck people, either it be new bros, or old bros. When I say op, it is in the sense that it is to powerfull to start out with. You can get into any build off the get go. I run strictly Heavy tho most of the time I use FG I do use the HMG, Just to see if I was as "OP" as everyone says I been using my Logi assualt Starter Fit. I feel like a ******* SUPER HERO, I can run at insane speeds, I can even JUMP OVER RAILS! and my scores at the end of the game are almost the same as running my Type 1 Heavy. Ok I might have a few more deathes then normal but thats my own fault ( charging HMGs head on ) The Range and Accuracy of the AR is awesome compared to the HMG.
if you've played GT5 going from heavy to logi or assault is like going from an RUF to the X1 you'll feel like god. It also messes with your senses :/ lately i've been missing alot of my HMGs shots becuase i keep treating it like an AR xD but that may also be due to the horrible sound i can't tell whats hitting or misssing
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Posted - 2013.02.11 09:06:00 -
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lowratehitman wrote:DropKickSuicide wrote:lowratehitman wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:lowratehitman wrote:= The good heavies that are known, i never saw any of them struggle at the end of a build like they claim happens, always good strong numbers. Perhaps later on it is not as easy to rip people to shreds and others are able to deal damage to you.
I enjoy the heavy, and enjoy the POWER and OP that it is, and take advatage of it everytime I play with it. What numbers have you seen, that you haven't seen from a guy running assault? A sh*tty player in heavy armor is still a sh*tty player. A good player in heavy armor will probably get flanked by a good player in assault/scout/logistics. Any heavy will still get over run by swarms, if they don't have any support. there is good and bad people behind either weapon, why stray from my main point? the only point I was ever making that keeps going over everybodies heads is that you can get into this build from the get go and wreck people, either it be new bros, or old bros. When I say op, it is in the sense that it is to powerfull to start out with. You can get into any build off the get go. I run strictly Heavy tho most of the time I use FG I do use the HMG, Just to see if I was as "OP" as everyone says I been using my Logi assualt Starter Fit. I feel like a ******* SUPER HERO, I can run at insane speeds, I can even JUMP OVER RAILS! and my scores at the end of the game are almost the same as running my Type 1 Heavy. Ok I might have a few more deathes then normal but thats my own fault ( charging HMGs head on ) The Range and Accuracy of the AR is awesome compared to the HMG. try the type II heavy, you can get that from the start, it can almost jump over rails, and dominates the Type 1,but that is just prefrence...imo
the type2 heavy is a beast its not just your opinion its a fact FACT I SAY
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