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GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
340
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Posted - 2013.04.18 18:59:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Getting sick and tired of asking for pay to win evidence.
I am on my phone now, but surely the topics on supremacy goods is relevant.
As long as those items are on the market the game is P2W. Not even finding it funny that people pretend like these items don't exist.
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GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
340
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Posted - 2013.04.18 19:07:00 -
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Also, the argument that CCP is removing the supremacy goods is not valid. Last week saw new supremacy goods added, including the return of the light CDM.
As long as those items with better fittings remain, the game is P2W. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty
EoN.
466
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Posted - 2013.04.18 19:14:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Getting sick and tired of asking for pay to win evidence. I am on my phone now, but surely the topics on supremacy goods is relevant. As long as those items are on the market the game is P2W. Not even finding it funny that people pretend like these items don't exist.
I think the place where this falls apart is it seems there are two camps:
A:Players that seem to want something done to AUR items until the market to level the playing field.
B:Players that are fine to wait until the market shows up. (me)
When I say "it's not P2W" I'm saying these things:
1. Market is coming, market will fix it. No additional actions warranted or prudent.
2. AUR items that currently have advantage over ISK items are mistakes and will be removed.
Obviously the new damage mod and other shenanigans sort of negate my second supposition I still stand by my first statement. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
157
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Posted - 2013.04.18 19:20:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:If they make your paintjobs cost AUR per suit, then there will be a steady stream of income as long as people have a desire to keep a specific colour scheme.
If they keep bringing new players into the game, or keep encouraging long-time players to make new alts, then there will be more and more characters showing up, many of whom will purchase Aurum for Boosters and/or BPOs.
I think it may be hard to bring new players into the game that is purely PVP and where lifetime SP decides who wins and who loses. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty
EoN.
467
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Posted - 2013.04.18 19:40:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:If they make your paintjobs cost AUR per suit, then there will be a steady stream of income as long as people have a desire to keep a specific colour scheme.
If they keep bringing new players into the game, or keep encouraging long-time players to make new alts, then there will be more and more characters showing up, many of whom will purchase Aurum for Boosters and/or BPOs. I think it may be hard to bring new players into the game that is purely PVP and where lifetime SP decides who wins and who loses.
With the diminishing returns on skills it won't take long (relativity speaking) for a new player to be able to hold on their own against mostly anyone. It's only at the top level where those level higher skills make the huge differences. Just like EVE really. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
59
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Posted - 2013.04.18 19:55:00 -
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I think that more people would pay for cosmetic things then for things that improve your effectiveness on the field.
Such, as decals, different color suits, different lights from your vizor, weapon camo, merc quarter customization. Personally i will not buy any aurum unless I want to buy something that makes my merc look better or my quarters look better.
Just me though, I don't mind grinding up skills... |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
2031
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:45:00 -
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I hate seeing threads being necroed like this, but not as much as seeing someone create a new thread about the same thing.
So instead of having to file this thread under same-thread #153565999557427619568, I just need to pull out same-thread #12558. |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
2031
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:48:00 -
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Overall, historically CCP has fixed our taken out certain items that are considered pay to win because that is what CCP is trying to avoid. There at a few still available in the market, but they are few in comparison to the large number of ISK variants and will probably experience a rebalance of their own one day. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty
EoN.
468
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Posted - 2013.04.18 21:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think that more people would pay for cosmetic things then for things that improve your effectiveness on the field.
Such, as decals, different color suits, different lights from your vizor, weapon camo, merc quarter customization. Personally i will not buy any aurum unless I want to buy something that makes my merc look better or my quarters look better.
Just me though, I don't mind grinding up skills...
I would pay AUR to put a decal on my forge gun. Named it Betty Boom, already got the design made up in photoshop. lol.
Maken Tosch wrote:Overall, historically CCP has fixed or taken out certain items that are considered pay to win because that is what CCP is trying to avoid. There at a few still available in the market, but they are few in comparison to the large number of ISK variants and will probably experience a rebalance of their own one day.
I would have agreed with you like 2 hours ago until it came to my attention they've added a new damage mod for light weapons with the same stats as the one's for heavy and sidearm which until now I had assumed were just oversights. Might be another mistake though, wait to see how it plays out. I'm sharpening my pitchfork but I haven't lit the torches just yet. |
Stevez WingYip
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:16:00 -
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"Suck it up, they paid for the game and you didn't."
Read that and stopped reading and laughed. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1250
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:27:00 -
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I'm betting on buying clones with AUR |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty
EoN.
468
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Posted - 2013.04.19 00:53:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:"Suck it up, they paid for the game and you didn't."
Read that and stopped reading and laughed.
Glad I could entertain but I hope you also read the surrounding words. |
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