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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:25:00 -
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with lower dps, a larger clip, and persistent burn doing 50-100dps, I one hundred 100% love this idea. |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:27:00 -
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Victor Czar wrote:While I would like a flamethrower to be added into dust I would prefer if it didn't use plasma. The only reason I don't want it to use plasma is because unless contained by a magnetic field or else heated to the point where it can vaporize a dropsuit in a millisecond*, Plasma will just explode due to the amount of thermal energy in it.
I'd much prefer the "flamethrower" to basically be an LTB-P from Syndicate entirely because it's a gun that shoots Thermite. It's ridiculously awesome and a great deal more realistic. Also it shoots Thermite did I mention that? Cause it totally shoots Thermite.
*From what I understand, plasma physics are weird. Past a certain temperature it'll start to get denser.
ok instead of bitching about peoples lack of science knowledge im leaving this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i2lhO3bSjQ
maybe that will stick.
tho to tell the truth I like the idea of napalm my self |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:32:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:What about vehicle damage?
It would be nice to at least have 1 weapon that are effective against both infantry and vehicles.
truthfully I could see this being acceptable at 50%ish damage to vehicles |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:33:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I still want the legal rights of plasma to stay in gallente hands
you lost that right when you split with the caldari. |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:39:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:What if.... when you kill a flamethrower wielder they would explode in a ball of fire, causing damage to the surroundings as well as any unlucky enemy clones. 
that sounds like it would be really difficult to implement, I mean why go thur the trouble for the BEST IDEA EVER! |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:45:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:'Plasma flame-throwers' aren't physically possible... Plasma and hot gas are exactly the same substance, just extremely differentiating in temperature. So you would need to magically invent a device which cools the plasma instantaneously by about 2000'c when it hits the target..
whaaaaaaaaaa???? you really want to be nit picky about this Idea????? fine its a god damn plasma thrower!!! gahhhh the name doesn't have to be god damn accurate it has to explain it or should we rename "move" on a computer to "copy and remove from file table" to satisfy your ******* semantics. |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:48:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:'Plasma flame-throwers' aren't physically possible... Plasma and hot gas are exactly the same substance, just extremely differentiating in temperature. So you would need to magically invent a device which cools the plasma instantaneously by about 2000'c when it hits the target.. Why would it need to cool? plasma is suppose to be hot, not cold. In Dust we have weapons that fire plasma; assault rifles for example fire bits of plasma encapsulated in electromagnetic fields. What I'm suggesting is kind of the same thing, but in much larger bursts, and without the electromagnetic encapsulation. Because plasma wouldn't burn to produce this 'damage-over-time burning effect'... It would just melt straight through the ground...
??????? oh you are just being stupid never mind. |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:01:00 -
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ARF 1049 wrote:go check out my idea of a flame thrower.... since you can walk through the burning structures on here anyway why should heat do damage? instead acid... its a few posts above this or below
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:18:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:The author went a great length to emphasize that plasma is different from flame. How exactly are flame and plasma different?
well not much different, in fact depending on the flame you got plasma their. Basically plasma is matter that is excited enough that the atoms are ionized(basically the atoms are so excited that some or all of their electrons are actually stripped off), this leads to the plasma on top of being hot being affected strongly by magnetisim and are conductive. Plasma can range widely in temperature. |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:21:00 -
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G Torq wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:ARF 1049 wrote:go check out my idea of a flame thrower.... since you can walk through the burning structures on here anyway why should heat do damage? instead acid... its a few posts above this or below I explained in it OP that the plasma flamethrower shoots PLASMA. Plasma is not fire, its superheated ionized gas, the stuff that the stars are made of. Assault rifles, shotguns, scrambler pistols, scrambler rifles (next build), plasma cannons (next build), blaster turrets and installations all shoot plasma, and they most definitely damage our dropsuits. Plasma is a lot safer than acid: * it disperses itself * it changes state * it doesn't pool on the floor/ground * it can be directed using EM fields
less damaging to structure we are fighting for.(ducks orbital) |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:26:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:The author went a great length to emphasize that plasma is different from flame. How exactly are flame and plasma different? Take a physics class, or just "basic science for dummies". You kids are cute. Flames are not a from of plasma. What you see as "flames" is simply super heated little particles that are glowing because of the heat, those same particles then turn into "smoke" once they lose the vast majority of that heat. The difference between the two is that simple flames do not have enough ionized particles to be considered plasma. Some flames are plasma, but not all are: http://www.plasmacoalition.org/plasma_writeups/flame.pdf We can agree that plasma is ionised matter (atoms breaking down into ions under influence of some sourt of energy) right? Most flames are hot enough to cause the particles not only to glow but to ionize too. Beyound that I think we ll be walking in circles if we continue to argue the subject.
not unless it emmits uv light |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:27:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Anyone else want to burn things?
ME!!! |
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Posted - 2013.09.25 03:29:00 -
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Baltazar Pontain wrote:I like weapons that need some skill to be used.
In case of a flamethrower I would like to see the "liquid" behaviour.
If you turn fast, the stream of plasma is not right their. It need to build up the steady stream after turning.
Burning plasma on the ground is hot (for some seconds) and can damage objects running over it (friend and foe).
Skills could be:
+X% on burn time (on the ground and subjects covered with it).
+X% on pressure (enabling to fire over longer distances)
So for me a flamethrower would have no srpead effect. It would be more a flamethrower like in WW2.
not enough game do this properly. |
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