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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:32:00 -
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Unfortunately the current incarnation of the HMG fills most of this role already.  |
Shijima Kuraimaru
warravens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:36:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:medomai grey wrote:Why use a plasma flame over a normal one? Will the gun utilize electric fields to manipulate the plasma fire to some effect or purpose?
Will it be shooting ignited fuel or just the flames?
Will the gun have an exposed fuel cell that if hit, instantly depletes the clip and sets the user on fire?
Why make it a heavy weapon? The purposed weapon will apply a damage over time effect to multiple targets. Targets that will most likely fire back. Heavies would not be ideal for this weapon because they lack the mobility to retreat once they ignited their targets and would die from being outgunned. Regular fire wouldn't hurt our suits. Plasma would hurt our suits (many of our weapons are plasma-based). Electromagnetic field to to propel the plasma outward, and maintain the plasma's volume so it doesn't become too spread out and weak. Won't shoot fuel, it shoots plasma ( look at this http://i.huffpost.com/gen/767871/thumbs/o-NASA-SUN-SOLAR-FLARE-900.jpg?12 ) I don't think exposed fuel cells will be needed for balancing. The way I envision it, its the enemies that would be running away (but eventually die due to damage over time). Its a high DPS weapon, not a weapon you want to take on in its optimal range.
Basically he want's a CQC "I WIN" button. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
warravens
League of Infamy
347
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:15:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:medomai grey wrote:Why use a plasma flame over a normal one? Will the gun utilize electric fields to manipulate the plasma fire to some effect or purpose?
Will it be shooting ignited fuel or just the flames?
Will the gun have an exposed fuel cell that if hit, instantly depletes the clip and sets the user on fire?
Why make it a heavy weapon? The purposed weapon will apply a damage over time effect to multiple targets. Targets that will most likely fire back. Heavies would not be ideal for this weapon because they lack the mobility to retreat once they ignited their targets and would die from being outgunned. Regular fire wouldn't hurt our suits. Plasma would hurt our suits (many of our weapons are plasma-based). Electromagnetic field to to propel the plasma outward, and maintain the plasma's volume so it doesn't become too spread out and weak. Won't shoot fuel, it shoots plasma ( look at this http://i.huffpost.com/gen/767871/thumbs/o-NASA-SUN-SOLAR-FLARE-900.jpg?12 ) I don't think exposed fuel cells will be needed for balancing. The way I envision it, its the enemies that would be running away (but eventually die due to damage over time). Its a high DPS weapon, not a weapon you want to take on in its optimal range. Basically he want's a CQC "I WIN" button. The initial DPS would still be lower than an HMG, so no. Next time learn to read better. I suppose you think a shotgun 1shot-killing someone at CQC, or an HMG is also an "I WIN" button.
What I'm hearing is a continual uninterrupted stream of damage with high DOT being thrown out and swept back and forth washing over everything that the sweep covers.
Example: Come around the corner and see 3 to 5 enemy mercs. Hold down the fire button and sweep 180 in .25 seconds setting them all ablaze and drop back behind cover and move on. DOT kills enemy. Max reward with minimal risk or challenge.
There's been no mention of a time limit of the burn, just that they burn till they die. And the dispersion of the HMG wouldn't apply to this weapon so giving it a lower damage per shot means little to nothing and the direct damage application would be more akin to the laser rifle. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
warravens
League of Infamy
348
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Posted - 2013.09.30 01:21:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Aside from you just being plain wrong, would it be so hard to give some constructive criticism? Do you just have to go rudely accusing me of wanting an "I win" button? There are actually polite ways of bringing up an issue without being a... well, you know.
Going to study for an exam now.
My mistake. At least I'll admit it. I need NoDoz when I do this crap after being up for too many hours. o7
But it still looks like an easy kill CQC weapon. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
warravens
League of Infamy
348
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Posted - 2013.09.30 01:28:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Aside from you just being plain wrong, would it be so hard to give some constructive criticism? Do you just have to go rudely accusing me of wanting an "I win" button? There are actually polite ways of bringing up an issue without being a... well, you know.
Going to study for an exam now. My mistake. At least I'll admit it. I need NoDoz when I do this crap after being up for too many hours. o7 But it still looks like an easy kill CQC weapon.
After taking another look...
It could be interesting but after about one third of it's optimal, it would outshine the HMG due to the HMG's drastic damage fall off due to shots missing because of dispersion. Just a fact of design after CCP broke the HMG. So this should have been what CCP should have done, or something close to it, rather than killing a weapon that was doing it's job just because AR elitists were crying over being killed by it while they were too lazy to play a tactical game against it. |
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