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DEADPOOL5241
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:20:00 -
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A few of us Mass Driver players are wondering what if any the sharpshooter skill effects the Mass Driver.
I have had sharpshooter up to prof 2 in prior builds for assault rifle and you can easily notice the difference in the range, but with the MD it feels exactly the same.
Does Sharpshooter effect anything on the MD?
CCP could you discuss the idea of sharpshooter effecting the drop of the MD shot. The more skill points you spend into sharpshooter the more the shot of the grenade will drop. As it is currently I can shoot across the most maps but the shot stays level until it hits an object or just disappears.
Open to discussion or ideas about MD and Sharpshooter.
Also reload speed on MD, whats the deal with specing into reload skills when it takes a whole .8 of a second off the reload at max.
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Morathi III
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:22:00 -
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I was a MD player in the last build go up to lvl 3 its enough |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:23:00 -
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For reload go up to prof 2 |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:25:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:I was a MD player in the last build go up to lvl 3 its enough
What sharpshooter to lvl 3, but why is my question what do you notice? We have been discussing this with many MD users in many corps and they all have stated no difference in anything with SS of any level. |
Tiel Syysch
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:25:00 -
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I was actually going to test sharpshooter on an alt in a few mins when I'm done catching up on the forums. I'll post when I get info in a little bit. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:25:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:For reload go up to prof 2
Again why, what does it get you? we talking a full second or better on reload?
I want to spend SP into these stats but before I do, I would like more info on why. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:27:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:I was actually going to test sharpshooter on an alt in a few mins when I'm done catching up on the forums. I'll post when I get info in a little bit.
Nice Tiel, let me know what you find out.
Ive got MD up to lvl 5 and prof 2 so far, one more lvl and I am back to what I was in last build. (Finally). What about you?
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Morathi III
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:28:00 -
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I tested it in the past , that make difference and beyond 3 SS its really to far you dont need it, best to make reload better its the key with MD,go on MD pro lvl2, dont go for 3 now better with reload at first |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:33:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Tiel Syysch wrote:I was actually going to test sharpshooter on an alt in a few mins when I'm done catching up on the forums. I'll post when I get info in a little bit. Nice Tiel, let me know what you find out. Ive got MD up to lvl 5 and prof 2 so far, one more lvl and I am back to what I was in last build. (Finally). What about you?
I'm at prof 3 right now, working on light weapon upgrade stuff right now before I deal with anything else. Need to free up CPU here and there since I'm waiting for the new suits before going proto on one of those. Gonna dump into the other light weapon stuff after I get a reasonable amount of LWU, wanted to know if sharpshooter was worthwhile before doing that. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:35:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Tiel Syysch wrote:I was actually going to test sharpshooter on an alt in a few mins when I'm done catching up on the forums. I'll post when I get info in a little bit. Nice Tiel, let me know what you find out. Ive got MD up to lvl 5 and prof 2 so far, one more lvl and I am back to what I was in last build. (Finally). What about you? I'm at prof 3 right now, working on light weapon upgrade stuff right now before I deal with anything else. Need to free up CPU here and there since I'm waiting for the new suits before going proto on one of those. Gonna dump into the other light weapon stuff after I get a reasonable amount of LWU, wanted to know if sharpshooter was worthwhile before doing that.
Reload whats your lvl tiel? |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:36:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:I tested it in the past , that make difference and beyond 3 SS its really to far you dont need it, best to make reload better its the key with MD,go on MD pro lvl2, dont go for 3 now better with reload at first
So you suggest SS to lvl 3 and thats all but not to go to prof 3 on MD but instead get reload skills up?
Could you provide me with the stats as to why you think MD needs reload up and at what level it really starts to be effective.
You say reload up to Prof 2, but how much time does it take off the reload.
Merci de poster, je sais que l'anglais n'est pas votre langue principale. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:37:00 -
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No stats go talk with cyn bruin |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:38:00 -
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When a MD reload its is weakness you give you an advantage if your weakness is gone |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:40:00 -
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Only played a little bit of dust with the sharpshooter and it still needs work. When you aim and move the cursor on screen the gun should track its movement, right now it stays in one place and is really annoying. Will ADS the gun blocks your view and is not easily moved because your movement is tracked by a tiny dot, so if you are trying to shoot someone that is below you while ADS you simply can't cause the gun stays in one spot and won't scroll.down so you can see your target. There are many other flaws about the sharpshooter and suggest people test it and give feedback cause it is still.really broken but such a fun piece of equipment to use in a FPS. PLEASE CCP FIX THE SHARPSHOOTER!
On Topic: yes sharpshooter skill doesn't have any obvious benefit for the MD. I think the SS skill should benefit the MD while in ADS. ADS should have a range finder that takes a second to lock-on and then fires the round to that point without adjusting aim. The SS skill comes into play as the more you skill the further the range finder increases in range. So when you first skill into MD the finder is only good up to say 50 m and each level increase the range by 25 m.
Not the best solution for sharpshooter but it is one, the second that I hate to mention is have the round explode after a set distance (i.e. missiles) and when you skill up sharpshooter the round goes further before detonation. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:59:00 -
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So, yeah, sharpshooter does nothing for mass driver. Waste of points. I just used an alt, bumped it to L4, base range was ~135m, L4 SS range was ~135m. No change at all, don't upgrade it if that's the only light weapon you're using.
Morathi III wrote:
Reload whats your lvl tiel?
I haven't put anything into the other light weapon skills besides upgrade yet. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:01:00 -
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Best skill for MD try it |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:02:00 -
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I said SS no more than 3 lol |
Belzeebub Santana
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:02:00 -
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The reload is why I still us it with assault suit, especially with adv suits coming out stacking shields. Get you down to a breath of armor but have to reload, nope pull out my SMG and lay you down quick. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:04:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:I said SS no more than 3 lol
Getting it more than zero is a waste of skill points. It does nothing for the mass driver. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:06:00 -
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Well if you level up reload all the way you get 40% off the reload time. So look up reload speed and take off
40%. Sry I'm not able to get n the game right now |
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Morathi III
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:06:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Morathi III wrote:I said SS no more than 3 lol Getting it more than zero is a waste of skill points. It does nothing for the mass driver.
Yes ill do something without 3 at longrange when you it sometimes do nothing |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:07:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:Tiel Syysch wrote:Morathi III wrote:I said SS no more than 3 lol Getting it more than zero is a waste of skill points. It does nothing for the mass driver. Yes ill do something without 3 at longrange when you it sometimes do nothing
I *JUST* tested it. Base range is 135m, with 20% bonus from L4 SS it's the same 135m range. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:09:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Well if you level up reload all the way you get 40% off the reload time. So look up reload speed and take off
40%. Sry I'm not able to get n the game right now
Not all the way prof 2, 31% its enough and you take a huge advantage on the field |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:10:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Morathi III wrote:Tiel Syysch wrote:Morathi III wrote:I said SS no more than 3 lol Getting it more than zero is a waste of skill points. It does nothing for the mass driver. Yes ill do something without 3 at longrange when you it sometimes do nothing I *JUST* tested it. Base range is 135m, with 20% bonus from L4 SS it's the same 135m range.
4= nothing like i said |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:15:00 -
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Reload is better than shiel control4-5 , why? Because if you reload faster you kill more and save life, better than MD prof 3 why? Because you use the field take cover and reload faster give shot more quickly and more dammage in less time |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:19:00 -
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I use the MD and use ss as my original choice was the lazor.
But I have on occasion sniped a sniper with my mass driver at its maximum range. One thing to note is that in my experience the MD round explodes at its maximum range. So you can at maximum range have a sphere of death instead of a hemisphere. Buth hitting at that range and taking everything like drop travel and enemy movement is almost as hsrd as meleeing a heavy to death in a scout suit. |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:26:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Well if you level up reload all the way you get 40% off the reload time. So look up reload speed and take off
40%. Sry I'm not able to get n the game right now Not all the way prof 2, 31% its enough and you take a huge advantage on the field
With reload 5 and reload prof 2 you get a total of 31% off your reload speed? Is that all, seems like it should be more.
Whats the total points to get to prof 2 + reload lvl 5
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:26:00 -
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There's no need for additional range on MD. I'm skilling SS to benefit my other light weapons. Once you get tired of diminishing returns to skill levels on MD you will train another weapon. Save SS for last or dont skill it at all if MD only. Train sidearm SS instead. Specialization into one thing only is an advantage now, but won't be in six months when dudes can bring greater tactical flexibility by being pretty good with multiple platforms.
Also, I'm a newb. How'd I do? |
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:29:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:There's no need for additional range on MD. I'm skilling SS to benefit my other light weapons. Once you get tired of diminishing returns to skill levels on MD you will train another weapon. Save SS for last or dont skill it at all if MD only. Train sidearm SS instead. Specialization into one thing only is an advantage now, but won't be in six months when dudes can bring greater tactical flexibility by being pretty good with multiple platforms.
Also, I'm a newb. How'd I do?
Well except a lot of us using MD are Logi's and we don't have sidearms. |
Belzeebub Santana
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:48:00 -
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If you're skilling into MD this is what you need to skill into:
1. MD operation
2. MD proficiency (available only after 1 is level 5) Level 3
3. Light weapons upgrade (helps you fit better MD in lower level suits
After you get these to where you can run a fit that you feel is cost effective and useful then you can mess with other skills to better round you out a a MD user.
Reload and not sure what else that is strictly beneficial to MD. |
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