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Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 04:24:00 - [1] - Quote Note: CCP Reply on Post #69 I have seen some members of corp go though these types of situations and Im hoping to show a little understanding of what you maybe going though. A lot of the older Corps in DUST 514 are facing Corp burn out. This game just currently does not have the mechanics in place to allow corps to lead properly and having only the role GÇ£DirectorGÇ¥ is far too much power to give someone if you want them to do just one task(like recruiter). So whatGÇÖs happening? Well first off People in RL join a business to get PAID. Well we cannot pay our Mercs properly and we seem to be more of a charity currently with our members paying us with GÇ£DonationsGÇ¥. A PAID Merc is a Happy Merc. Now if you canGÇÖt have money then whatGÇÖs the next best thing? POWER! Players want to have reasonabilityGÇÖs, to feel apart and to gain recognition for their work, but as stated above we canGÇÖt really do this without taking a huge risk in trust. This makes players unhappy in their Corps when they want to move up the ladder. In our case itGÇÖs just a stepping stool. Those that are give a GÇ£saidGÇ¥ position with no abilities is most of the time looked over by other members and this causes many arguments within a Corp. This brings the last point. Why is there a lack of Communication from leadership? Because No other Communication tools are in place. We have been given Corp forums here on dust514.com (If you didnGÇÖt know then go here) but not all our members go look at forums on a daily bases. So we need Corp mail and bulletins in place. Otherwise Tommy does not know that Jimmy was promoted and so Tommy tell Jimmy to ** himself when heGÇÖs told to take Alpha. This falls on Tommy for not reading the forums and so he blames his leadership for not telling him to listen to Jimmy in the first place. We as Corp Leaders are being blamed by our members that we are not doing our jobs because we are trying to Play the MMO part of DUST but are only given pure FPS Mechanics. This is all you can do in DUST: Pub Match and grind SP & ISK Play a Corp Match and do a coin flip for ISK You really donGÇÖt need leadership to tell you to do these things, but we are all in corps for what is to come and it seems we are becoming board with the facts that it is not here. I Know CCP your working on it, but we need it fast. But hey, maybe itGÇÖs CCP plan to get us all pissed or starved so we start to eat one another. What greater conflict driver then that? Zion Shad wrote:** If all your doing here is playing an FPS (like the Imperfects), then you will do just fine. Your members that are only here to play an FPS, they will do just fine. This post is towards the 25-30% of those wanting to be involved in the MMO part of things, but finding themselves hitting the plateau. The enablers and the instigators CCP has put it. We are not failing because we do understand this situation.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 04:31:00 - [2] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: I bet I'm the cause of this post There is a lot of cause for this post Sota. It's not just you my friend. I have seen it in other corps and have herd the storys from CEOs and Members alike
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 04:40:00 - [3] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: I don't see how it's hard to communicate when you have two forums and more then 20 people in total active on both letting the corp in game know what's going on. If members feel neglected it's not CCP's fault. It's leaders for not giving out the information properly to be distributed. Or else you kill the point of PAYING FOR ENJIN. Enjin sux btw Somewhat true. I do wish we had someone posting up a sort of bulletin of events on what happened daily. Something "general". So that I agree to, Sota. Still all I want to know is when do I get paid? Ha-ha-ha-ha. I kidd, on the getting paid part. BULLETIN: Today Members logged on to DUST and Grinded up SP. Then had to eat dinner and go to bed. More of this at 11. I Kid, but we don't have much to say Dust wise. A once a week thing would be cool though and we are starting Weekly meeting now to help with word of mouth communication
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 06:18:00 - [4] - Quote If all your doing here is playing an FPS (like the Imperfects), then you will do just fine. Your members that are only here to play an FPS, they will do just fine. This post is towards the 25-30% of those wanting to be involved in the MMO part of things, but finding themselves hitting the plateau. The enablers and the instigators CCP has put it. We are not failing because we do understand this situation.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 06:24:00 - [5] - Quote Malinche La Llorona wrote: If my directors ever QQ'ed because they couldn't keep the corp together I'm pretty sure most folks would have to admit that it was the beginning of a fail cascade. So, what's up Zion? You gonna fall apart before we've even had the chance to roll you? Not at all. Still have 300+. LOL People see 1 guy get kicked and want to yell theres a fire. @ Tourneys: I have 300+ members and can only allow 8 at a time in to a tourney. What is the other 292 or so members going to do? LOL
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 06:35:00 - [6] - Quote BattleCry1791 wrote: My advice? Put mercs before ISK. It works out better in the long run. Bottom line is this: Mercs can make money anywhere, the question that as to be answered, is why would they want to make it with you? You have hit my point and dont even know it LOL. And in those two years you had people come and people go. It happens. This post is a "Hang in there" Post. Look Betamax went through somthing with leadership and out popped Imperfects. They bounced back and are still together. PRO has had a few member hop out and leave to join us. Onslaught which is part of your ROFL had members leave and removed because they didnGÇÖt like the way Virgin Destroyer was leading them (Sorry enjin since that Corp mail to every VIP you have) the list goes on.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 06:43:00 - [7] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: To be fair - the people in ZTCD feel there leadership is AFK or on EvE all the time. Just because I was the only one who posted about it doesn't mean it's not being talked about constantly. Is ZTCD going through a burn out? No, nothing supports this statement. If ZTCD is going through a burnout it's because anyone with any gun game either left or got banned for not putting up with emos. You never play Sota, you have no idea. And no gun game? We win 80%-90% of our Corp battles. Our guys grab most the top spots in their matches. I'm Proud of our team and your words now shows you never did. But hey your Trolling show that you are wearing the right tag now
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 07:04:00 - [8] - Quote This is my Sota Pop Challenge. I want you to make a Forum Diary right here in General Discussion for everyone to see and write about your experience with IMPswarm. Show all of us how they are a functioning Corporation and not just some FPS Clan. From where IGÇÖm at right now, all the things that you said we did not have I do not see any of it in IMPswarm. ItGÇÖs just an FPS Clan, but you can show all of us otherwise.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 07:14:00 - [9] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: +1 for having Corporate standards in my opinion. Even if this board is a lawless hellhole I think a lot of the Zion misconception comes from your sheer numbers. I've seen Zion squads that crush to the same extent as the imperfects going about 100-3 as a squad. I've also seen a Zion Squad get whipped into shape by me and a few of my friends who I would say are not really that hardcore of players. It's nearly impossible to have universal skill standards unless you are running a closed community. Thanks man and you hit it. We are a community and so things will always be a hit or miss in battles depending who you play. we take the dads and the weekend worriors. We take those still in school or have a job (sometimes both). They hop in and show their LFS and then get their game on. They my Bros! If you Cant be in the COOL Kids club, then grab a beer and chill with us. We are working on things where you can be a part, even if it's part time
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 23:13:00 - [10] - Quote Cyn Bruin wrote: (corp named after yourself, bad idea no.1) My name is Shad and nice to meet you. Zion is simply my Tag so you know. It is a tribute to the 15 years I have ran Zion. Back in Socom one Clans were introduced to the console players for the first time, but like the early days of DUST you didnGÇÖt have clan tags or anyway of knowing who was in a clan. So like other FPSs on PC before them, Players would remake their names with the Tag in front. My name then was Shadow and was renamed Zion Shadow(added tag), but players would call me Shad. Since there were a Crap load of Shadows, I shorten the name in Socom 2 and still kept my tag. Thus ZionShad was made. I keep the name because itGÇÖs known and it has history (15years, over 50 gaming titles). ZionTCD is not named after me, but it is the name IGÇÖve always fought for. As far as timing Don't expect me to take a moment of silence for someone who was kick because he could no respect the rules he agreed to

Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1620	Posted - 2013.02.08 23:18:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: You guys should have a listen to the latest CAST 514 podcast, I go over some of the things we are adding for corporations. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywnlrtj0V8A A lot of the discussions here sound exactly like the kind of "what next?" discussions we are having at the CCP offices so that's good to hear. Thanks Nullarbor This is why I made the post, not to get on to CCP but that players would simply understand. Players like this guy who was robbed by another because he gave to much power. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=57061&find=unread

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