DUST Search - Corporate Burn Out

Zion Shad wrote:

Note: CCP Reply on Post #69

I have seen some members of corp go though these types of situations and Im hoping to show a little understanding of what you maybe going though.

A lot of the older Corps in DUST 514 are facing Corp burn out. This game just currently does not have the mechanics in place to allow corps to lead properly and having only the role GÇ£DirectorGÇ¥ is far too much power to give someone if you want them to do just one task(like recruiter).

So whatGÇÖs happening?

Well first off People in RL join a business to get PAID. Well we cannot pay our Mercs properly and we seem to be more of a charity currently with our members paying us with GÇ£DonationsGÇ¥. A PAID Merc is a Happy Merc.

Now if you canGÇÖt have money then whatGÇÖs the next best thing? POWER!

Players want to have reasonabilityGÇÖs, to feel apart and to gain recognition for their work, but as stated above we canGÇÖt really do this without taking a huge risk in trust. This makes players unhappy in their Corps when they want to move up the ladder. In our case itGÇÖs just a stepping stool. Those that are give a GÇ£saidGÇ¥ position with no abilities is most of the time looked over by other members and this causes many arguments within a Corp. This brings the last point.

Why is there a lack of Communication from leadership? Because No other Communication tools are in place.

We have been given Corp forums here on dust514.com (If you didnGÇÖt know then go here) but not all our members go look at forums on a daily bases. So we need Corp mail and bulletins in place. Otherwise Tommy does not know that Jimmy was promoted and so Tommy tell Jimmy to **** himself when heGÇÖs told to take Alpha. This falls on Tommy for not reading the forums and so he blames his leadership for not telling him to listen to Jimmy in the first place.

We as Corp Leaders are being blamed by our members that we are not doing our jobs because we are trying to Play the MMO part of DUST but are only given pure FPS Mechanics.

This is all you can do in DUST:

Pub Match and grind SP & ISK

Play a Corp Match and do a coin flip for ISK

You really donGÇÖt need leadership to tell you to do these things, but we are all in corps for what is to come and it seems we are becoming board with the facts that it is not here. I Know CCP your working on it, but we need it fast.

But hey, maybe itGÇÖs CCP plan to get us all pissed or starved so we start to eat one another. What greater conflict driver then that?

Zion Shad wrote:

If all your doing here is playing an FPS (like the Imperfects), then you will do just fine. Your members that are only here to play an FPS, they will do just fine. This post is towards the 25-30% of those wanting to be involved in the MMO part of things, but finding themselves hitting the plateau. The enablers and the instigators CCP has put it.

We are not failing because we do understand this situation.


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Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 906	Posted - 2013.02.08 16:01:00 - [1] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: Note: CCP Reply on Post #69 I have seen some members of corp go though these types of situations and Im hoping to show a little understanding of what you maybe going though. A lot of the older Corps in DUST 514 are facing Corp burn out. This game just currently does not have the mechanics in place to allow corps to lead properly and having only the role GÇ£DirectorGÇ¥ is far too much power to give someone if you want them to do just one task(like recruiter). So whatGÇÖs happening? Well first off People in RL join a business to get PAID. Well we cannot pay our Mercs properly and we seem to be more of a charity currently with our members paying us with GÇ£DonationsGÇ¥. A PAID Merc is a Happy Merc. Now if you canGÇÖt have money then whatGÇÖs the next best thing? POWER! Players want to have reasonabilityGÇÖs, to feel apart and to gain recognition for their work, but as stated above we canGÇÖt really do this without taking a huge risk in trust. This makes players unhappy in their Corps when they want to move up the ladder. In our case itGÇÖs just a stepping stool. Those that are give a GÇ£saidGÇ¥ position with no abilities is most of the time looked over by other members and this causes many arguments within a Corp. This brings the last point. Why is there a lack of Communication from leadership? Because No other Communication tools are in place. We have been given Corp forums here on dust514.com (If you didnGÇÖt know then go here) but not all our members go look at forums on a daily bases. So we need Corp mail and bulletins in place. Otherwise Tommy does not know that Jimmy was promoted and so Tommy tell Jimmy to ** himself when heGÇÖs told to take Alpha. This falls on Tommy for not reading the forums and so he blames his leadership for not telling him to listen to Jimmy in the first place. We as Corp Leaders are being blamed by our members that we are not doing our jobs because we are trying to Play the MMO part of DUST but are only given pure FPS Mechanics. This is all you can do in DUST: Pub Match and grind SP & ISK Play a Corp Match and do a coin flip for ISK You really donGÇÖt need leadership to tell you to do these things, but we are all in corps for what is to come and it seems we are becoming board with the facts that it is not here. I Know CCP your working on it, but we need it fast. But hey, maybe itGÇÖs CCP plan to get us all pissed or starved so we start to eat one another. What greater conflict driver then that? Zion Shad wrote: If all your doing here is playing an FPS (like the Imperfects)**, then you will do just fine. Your members that are only here to play an FPS, they will do just fine. This post is towards the 25-30% of those wanting to be involved in the MMO part of things, but finding themselves hitting the plateau. The enablers and the instigators CCP has put it. We are not failing because we do understand this situation. Shad, if you think all Imperfects is doing is playing an FPS you've got some serious blinders on. That said, you make some really good points. I can't tell you how many times I wish I could just send out a Corp-wide In-game mail. The fact that this is a console game makes the in-game Coms and social tools even MORE important than if it were on PC. A console player should have NO need to crack open a computer (including reading/posting on these forums) if they choose to go that route. Best of luck to you and your corp in the Open Beta Tournament! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=54759&find=unread It'd be great to see some more Legacy Rising affiliated corps get involved. Also, you still need to get back with me if you can help me run the "Dust OB" event tomorrow and pick some systems.