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Rei Shepard
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Posted - 2013.02.07 10:33:00 -
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Quote:I armor tanked my heavy....run 812 HP in armor and 100 for shields. Totals 912 HP. My Type II suit runs 320 shields and 512 armor...832 total points.
However, I find I do WAY better with the fewer hp suit because of the extra shields over armor (and the shields). You can do more in extended fights and survive longer.
How is 512 armor less then 320 shields ? Also how do you fit an extra 412 armor on an assault suit with 2 low slots, sure you can get up to 412 total armor but not 512. (typo?) besides what use is an assault suit thats rigged for speed gonna do with -20 speed ?
And if eventually everyone runs a Logi with 4 plates, they are gonna be slower speed as a heavy, except easier to kill.
I run my assault II with top shield extenders because its a suit meant to be shield tanked and 120 armor or so, once someone gets trough those shields, you die really fast.
But in relation to EVE, Shield tanking trumps Armor tanking armor tanks are just better at being buffer tanks that are remote repped to take large amounts of punishments, same here actually. Also those big Armor plates on ships make them fat and slow, same here....so it makes sense.
Solo > Shield Tank
Group > Armor Tank |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.02.07 10:57:00 -
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Quote:That's a Type II HEAVY suit. not assault.
And what idiot would tun 4 plates on a Logi proto instead of running armor reppers, a shield mod, and then maybe a plate...and where did I intimate that I thought anyone would?
Based on your lacklaster previous two points I can't take your eve .02 ISK into consideration.
Thanks for posting there, superchampion.
I misread and your amounts just added up to the right numbers and i assumed, doesnt mean the above about shields & armor isn't valid. I guess you never misread something eh ? Next time say its the heavy suit because assault has a suit named just like it.
Unless you just want to troll and dismiss any data presented, in that case work well done.
Solo > Shield Tank
Group > Armor Tank
Armor tanking solo will never be put on the same scale as shield tanking solo, just face that fact and move on, seeing you are a Heavy user you just want more power. Run assault if you wanna solo man. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.02.07 11:20:00 -
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I am gonna say this once more
There are 4 types of tanks in EVE
1) Passive Shield Tank, has lots of shields, passively regenerates over time, great for mission running where you know the amount of damage incoming is consistent and predictable.
2) Active Shield Tank, uses shield boosters to recharge shields and can use charges to repair faster, great for solo pvp, dual ASB tanks ruled PVP till it got nerfed.
3) Armor Tank or Buffer Tank, completely depended on other people to keep it alive because Armor plates give more HP per unit over each shield extender, so you can buffer the incoming damage better and allows for remote reppers to lock on to you before you splode under massive damage.
4) Speed tank, flying under the tracking speed of ships turrets or missile blast radius, dies when caught in a web or a performs a manual flying error like lining up with a gun.
Its exactly the same in Dust, so unless they change it in EVE i don't see Shield 514 changing, besides it makes sense to think that Shields are the best overall defense against firepower because it just needs to power up the shield vs millions of nano-machines trying to fill up a huge hole in your chest before the next bullet hits.
Once they add in weapon customization and you get AMMO that deals EM damage (shields are weak against EM) and troops will have to use EM hardeners they playing field will level out since Armor has a better natural resistance against that damage type.
For now its Beta. |
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