DUST Search - Kain Spero SP leeching in my match.

Nova Knife wrote:

Deadeyes Anterie wrote:

Since you actually admit to AFK'ing matches for hours on end to get SP it's safe to say you are kind of a parasite on the game. You are not entitled to SP, and your attitude about it is beyond rotten. Imagine how **** the game would be if 50% of the community treated the game with as little respect as you do, oh we got 7 players on our team actually playing, sweet. Public matches would be beyond a joke for the 90% of players who really care about each match they play. SP Is a reward for playing the game, not a thing you deserve even if you can't play.

Would you like to know what I do, while I AFK in the MCC?

I do things on the forums, I work on spreadsheets for overall balance feedback, I talk in channels to give people help and advice to get them started in dust. I work as a middleman to help corps get in touch with each other. I spend a horrendous amount of time saying the same things over and over on IRC for people who didn't hear them the first time (Things CCP has said on IRC or on the forums, etc) And then there's my real life job.

I could go on, but I think it's safe to say that I make a more positive contribution to dust by 'not playing' , than I would if I were to just sit there and no-life.

You can call me a parasite if you like, but before you make such statements, know that there are very few players out there who have devoted as much time to helping make dust more awesome as I have. (I know that sounds a little conceited and e-peenish, but it was not meant to be) I only bring this up because you have the gall to suggest I do not respect the game or the people who play it. :(


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Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 14:30:00 - [1] - Quote First im amazed others imps have not come in and hijacked this thread already. Kudos to them because if it's one thing you don't want to do its ** on Kane. Really you can troll or call anyone else out and we'd probably be like well he deserved it and troll them too. But Kane big mistake. First off you make a post on "EVIDENCE." What evidence? You sir would be the worlds crappiest scientist or detective. You indict a person baed on ONE SINGLE MATCH. What you have is a theory and PROOF OF NOTHING. Did you email him and ask WTF? Did you in any way try to find out if this was occuring all day? Did you write a post asking others if they had noticed "players(generic not specific)" if they had noticed an increase in AFK for the day? The last question is probably the most important because if you truly cared more about the exploit and less about smearing a player you wouldnt have suggested creating a "shame list" and you damn well would made inquires of the prevalence of AFK SP farming instead of just assuming it existed. We know it exists only based on player posts who say they'd do it, but how many people witnessed it actually occuring yesterday? You didn't even bother to ask. Conclusion you're aim was to smear a really stand up dude with little to no evidence under the guise of hey im just trying to point out an exploit that needs to be addressed. You have nothing more to go on and no legs to stand on. Fact that you ASSUMED he was AFKing for hard cap. Never mind that the hard cap was bugged for a crap ton of players yesterday and not everyone was reaching 285,600 before hitting soft cap. (CCP explanation as to why is just wrong since i capped everyday this past week and earned close to 190+K before reaching cap and i use bosster, so thats still way over the 40K i should have earned). Instead you don't go after a prominent player you go after a player who is the CEO of IMPs who has alway been under a microscope because of it and always being met with scrutiny for it DESPITE how IMPARTIAL he truly is in developing the DUST Community. He organize a tourney, tells imps can't play impswarm can. Few days later sorry can't let impswarm play it may create too much caos and suspicion that it will be IMP alts playing and i want this tourney to go off without issue for the COMMUNITY. He writes a post informing the COMMUNITY that CB are effecting FW TODAY. Yea didn't let that one slide under the radar either he made sure the CEO's were aware of this given the fragile nature of the EVE environment right now so as to not create an undue backlash on Dust players playing CB's willy nilly and just screwing around in them for fun which meant real consequences EVE side. This is a guy who gives and gives more of his time to the Community than his own corp(not a bad thing, we get it and appreciate his passion for these games). Which is why to even suggest he'd AFK farm with little to no proof other than ONE ***** GAME!!!! is utter BS, this guy has more integrity than the entire game population combined and his sense of fairness to others even at the expense of his own corp is one of the many reasons why you just plain effed up on this. Oh and IF it is True, id imagine kane fessing up to it and issuing an apology directly to you, cause again thats how stand up he is. But i believe he wasnt AFK farming and likely something occurred cause i know exactly how busy that guy is and how many plates he's got spinning. Edit- Also ive had multiple occasion where my console hard freezes but im still connected to the game because i can still hear my squadmates on comms, it could have been a hard freeze that simply didnt drop him from the match especially if he went AFK not realizing that fact. So there already is reasonable doubt but again your myopathy let you assume something without consideration of alternative theories. Do us a favor and learn the cliche about Assumptions.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 14:40:00 - [2] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: Since you actually admit to AFK'ing matches for hours on end to get SP it's safe to say you are kind of a parasite on the game. You are not entitled to SP, and your attitude about it is beyond rotten. Imagine how **** the game would be if 50% of the community treated the game with as little respect as you do, oh we got 7 players on our team actually playing, sweet. Public matches would be beyond a joke for the 90% of players who really care about each match they play. SP Is a reward for playing the game, not a thing you deserve even if you can't play. Would you like to know what I do, while I AFK in the MCC? I do things on the forums, I work on spreadsheets for overall balance feedback, I talk in channels to give people help and advice to get them started in dust. I work as a middleman to help corps get in touch with each other. I spend a horrendous amount of time saying the same things over and over on IRC for people who didn't hear them the first time (Things CCP has said on IRC or on the forums, etc) And then there's my real life job. I could go on, but I think it's safe to say that I make a more positive contribution to dust by 'not playing' , than I would if I were to just sit there and no-life. You can call me a parasite if you like, but before you make such statements, know that there are very few players out there who have devoted as much time to helping make dust more awesome as I have. (I know that sounds a little conceited and e-peenish, but it was not meant to be) I only bring this up because you have the gall to suggest I do not respect the game or the people who play it. :( Nova knife you dirty leecher, how dare you AFK farm, i mean wait weren't we fighting each other yesterday in ambush? or was that a different knife. Oh and yea knife not care about the game? Ha shows how little you know.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 15:18:00 - [3] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: Sorry I am breaking my rule about not posting but I think I need to reply to this regardless of what Kain says. I didn't treat Kain any differently than anyone else. If it was a person in a Corporation and their AFK lost me a really close match I am going to call them out on it. The fact that AFK matches took place during that 24 hour period that rewarded large sums of SP that would be otherwise unearnable was enough for me personally to find motive. I didn't assume its Kain he is guilty or it's Kain he's innocent I don't know the guy that well. I drew the conclusion based on what I saw and the timing of the incident. To you this is a great offense because of who he is, to me he is just another guy. If I see him doing crap I'm going to call him out on it. He has not build an aura of infallibility in my eyes. Like you said any other name and it would have been fine for you to accept as truth. To me he is just another person. Again where is your proof that this was occuring in mass during this 24 hour period. You offer up kane in a single game as PROOF of this being WIDESPREAD. Where are your inquires into other players doing this. For that matter where are your inquiries that he was AFK beyond this one match. You see the difference, im not calling you out on trashing kane per se, well i am but im calling you out on your methodology. You take this one isolated incident and i guess the posts that of others saying they would exploit the Sp system to AFK farm, but beyond this one incident you dont have anything to back it up. Nice try deflecting but my point still stands.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 16:36:00 - [4] - Quote Midas Man ll wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Midas Man ll wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: lol all this just to troll? fail Nope all that to prove you fail at reading as well as fail at gaming, just makes me wonder what else you fail at in life. Probably all of it seeing as the way to circumvent boredom is to sit in an MCC staring at a wall. Go to your doc's he may have some advice, drugs or something. Sorry, but when you try to make a point you should probably do so without sounding like an idiot. And making your opinions sound like facts makes you sound even more so. If that doesn't make that a troll post then I don't know what does. Just because you believe everything you write is fact doesn't mean everything you read, that someone else wrote, is as infalible as your drivle. My statements are always my opinion. *Scientific facts are not 100% they just haven't been proved wrong yet and all evidence suggest they are so people believe them.* aand about sounding like an idiot have you even read any of your posts, you spend a lot of time contradicting yourself in the same statement. No such thing as scientific facts, Scientific Laws are 100% fact and infalliable they really only exist in physics to the best of my knowledge. Theories are working points that the scientific method upon which a hypothesis is generated and the method is then applied. A theory that is either debunked or valid but remains theory as there may be conflicting data or competing hypotheses that creates uncertainity in the community. Hence Law of Gravity Law of Conservation of mass/energy Law of thermodynamics etc etc etc Theory of Evolution Theory of Relativity (actually proven false i believe years later, even Einstein gets it wrong from time to time).
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 16:42:00 - [5] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: Why worry aboit winning if there is no reward, incentive, or reward for helping your team win. If ccp won't change it, its our job ad beta testers to abuse it. Especially with last night. I allready play enough to hit the cap in a week, but a day ? Yikes , nope time to abuse giant flaws in game design. The losing team should get 0 sp, you want to see people fighting the death with passion? That'll do it. Why play at all if you don't want to win the matches. Here is an idea, watch a number tick up over time, pretend it is your 'sp' and quit playing Dust. It is beyond clear your only enjoyment from the game is increasing numbers. If you don't care about winning matches just because it doesn't give you more numbers then you really don't understand the point of the game. You are a shining example of this really selfish attitude that seems to be prevailing. If I don't get something then I don't care! Why not try and win the match for you and your team? Our win loss is better than most, i think you can stop lecturing us on whining, i mean winning. Tiger blood!!
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 16:50:00 - [6] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Gunner Nightingale wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: Why worry aboit winning if there is no reward, incentive, or reward for helping your team win. If ccp won't change it, its our job ad beta testers to abuse it. Especially with last night. I allready play enough to hit the cap in a week, but a day ? Yikes , nope time to abuse giant flaws in game design. The losing team should get 0 sp, you want to see people fighting the death with passion? That'll do it. Why play at all if you don't want to win the matches. Here is an idea, watch a number tick up over time, pretend it is your 'sp' and quit playing Dust. It is beyond clear your only enjoyment from the game is increasing numbers. If you don't care about winning matches just because it doesn't give you more numbers then you really don't understand the point of the game. You are a shining example of this really selfish attitude that seems to be prevailing. If I don't get something then I don't care! Why not try and win the match for you and your team? Our win loss is better than most, i think you can stop lecturing us on whining, i mean winning. Tiger blood!! You're an Imperfect? Oh Sota, why can't we be friends, it would be the best dynamic duo of trolling since reg and proto.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 20:00:00 - [7] - Quote Salazar Skye-fire wrote: so the moral of the story is, all these e-peeners with any type of rep cant commit to their image and need to find the things broken in this game in order to stay on to. LOLZ Its called testing, you know what it is we're all here to do. Especially the closed beta tester that have been testing this thing since it was a patchwork game that was basically in its alpha stage. Kudos to you guys because when i came in november it felt good to me i had no clue how much the came had been tested and tweaked. It is the responsibility of every TESTER in this game to find EXPLOITS/BUGS/GLITCHES and REPORT THEM. so instead of lulz at us we lulz at you cause you're just a parasitic leach that "plays" the game while the we try to "test" and IMPROVE IT.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 20:09:00 - [8] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: If you guys want to complain this much ill start doing it till i hit the cap...Then talk about me and leave Kane out of this..there are others who did the same but i do not see his name on here yet you dont see me crying about it...big deal you carry the team dont expect others to carry your entire team... I'm afk right now as I post in this thread. Bring on the hate. Can't wait for friendly fire you should add this to the reason why we should support friendly fire thread.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 20:25:00 - [9] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: If i don't want to play the game why do I have to forfeit my SP? People need to just stop hating and come chill with us in the mcc all day. We have beer pong! I thought today was flipcup?
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 20:27:00 - [10] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: If i don't want to play the game why do I have to forfeit my SP? People need to just stop hating and come chill with us in the mcc all day. We have beer pong! Put down some isk and lets play some poker Sleepy you want none of this went to college at UConn, Foxwoods and 4 screening during/between classes was my source of income like whoa. Now its doing the occasional rounding in A.C.

Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 215	Posted - 2013.02.06 20:29:00 - [11] - Quote SoLJae wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: SoLJae wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: If i don't want to play the game why do I have to forfeit my SP? because you didn't earn it fairly??? How is it not fair? Not fair to your teammates and I don't mean the imps. You imperfects forget about this sometimes, but when you enter a random pub battle you are part of a TEAM. When you sit in your MCC, you're exploiting a glitch, nothing more and nothing less. Your team suffers for it. Yea but we're only being fair to these guys https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=518027#post518027 Man the road to hell really is paved with good intentions.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 537	Posted - 2013.04.16 22:10:00 - [12] - Quote Chimeric Destiny wrote: So this is the guy who's responsible for all this nonsense in skirmish. Now i know why people say they're pulling a Cane, they meant Kain. We like to call him Dear leader. and it Mr KAIN to you. Not to be confused with Mr. Kane SPERO he's an escrow fund manager.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 537	Posted - 2013.04.16 22:42:00 - [13] - Quote Patoman Radiant wrote: with the way blueberrys preform I would take a afk corp leader over them. Have you seen some of the scores they get, 0-4 0-11. They literally feed the enemy clones. Also... meh, afking doesn't count untill may 6th hits, its been the same game for, how long? Also, who the hell keeps bumping topics from 2 months ago, if you want a imperfect topic make a new one. Exactly wow even Zion gets it.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 537	Posted - 2013.04.17 00:55:00 - [14] - Quote Free Beers wrote: posting in necro'd thread/ afking in mcc / making dinner I would like to thank ccp for making dust and real life compatible You forgot to thank Dark scrub for the necros wouldnt be here if it wasn't for fresh butthurt