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I HateMyFace
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.05 14:56:00 -
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I made some mistakes when i was originially building my character. I didnt realise how much of an impact it would make on how i play the game. I currently have about 1mil sp and im thinking about making a new main so i can start fresh. Do you guys hink its worth it? Or should i just HTFU and roll with it.
I also posted here because newcomers should seriously consider what they put their sp into
Release the trolls...im ready |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:04:00 -
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just change direction, a skill isnt wasted. |
stormtroopin
Cygnus Tactical Operations
51
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:07:00 -
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if i were you i wouldn't start over with a new char. keep playing as ihatemyface and just TREAT him as starting over. if you change direction where you're investing skills, it's almost the same as creating a new character, only the skills you've already invested in provide some latteral upgrade. keep the same guy, but serisouly plan out what you want to upgrade in. this is one of the advantages of being a closed beta player. we've been through this sometimes three and four times over, and each time get better at what we invest in the skill tree.
what have you spent so far that you feel is wasted? |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
294
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:10:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:just change direction, a skill isnt wasted.
+1
This is the same reason why I don't understand training alts for specialized jobs. It's a pain in the butt to switch characters and even more painful to train core skills to be effective. Training a wide range of roles to standard level is also a good idea and super easy. Need to shoot a pesky LAV? Switch to your swarm fit. Sniper harassing your team? Switch to sniper and take him down.
When done switch back to your preferred fit.
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R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:18:00 -
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I think the question is whether the million SP he has on his current character give more value for his preferred play style than the 500K (or whatever) he'd have to spend with a new one.
To the OP: do you currently have have at least 500K SP of "transferrable" skills? By that I mean things like shield/armor/PG/CPU skills.
As an extreme example, if *all* of your million SP are in sniper rifle and and repair tool operation, and you want to run HMG heavy instead, it is probably better to start a new character.
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SCAT mania
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
76
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:20:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:just change direction, a skill isnt wasted. +1 This is the same reason why I don't understand training alts for specialized jobs. It's a pain in the butt to switch characters and even more painful to train core skills to be effective. Training a wide range of roles to standard level is also a good idea and super easy. Need to shoot a pesky LAV? Switch to your swarm fit. Sniper harassing your team? Switch to sniper and take him down. When done switch back to your preferred fit. Exactly!! at the end of the last build i had Assault Lvl4 Heavy Lvl3 Logi Lvl 2. proto swarms and ARs, advanced LRs, forge, and nearly all equipment was advanced with some proto. why go through the trouble of making and alt when in game you need those fits then and there |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
294
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:24:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:I think the question is whether the million SP he has on his current character give more value for his preferred play style than the 500K (or whatever) he'd have to spend with a new one.
To the OP: do you currently have have at least 500K SP of "transferrable" skills? By that I mean things like shield/armor/PG/CPU skills.
As an extreme example, if *all* of your million SP are in sniper rifle and and repair tool operation, and you want to run HMG heavy instead, it is probably better to start a new character.
Using your example, the 1 mil SP he currently has isn't preventing him from from learning HMG and Heavy and gives him the capability to counter sniper if the situation calls for it.
The only reasons to reroll a character in New Eden are to change your name, dump your reputation or choose a different race for role playing reasons.
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I HateMyFace
BetaMax.
13
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:35:00 -
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I suppose you guys are right. I believe the skill i dumped into is called vigor so i could use stamina modules but i never use them. I have some in the tranferrable skills that you were talking about, And there are others ive spaced out to try new things. I guess its a good thing because my play style seems to change with the seasons. |
Warchild Zek
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
28
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:39:00 -
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I HateMyFace wrote:I suppose you guys are right. I believe the skill i dumped into is called vigor so i could use stamina modules but i never use them. I have some in the tranferrable skills that you were talking about, And there are others ive spaced out to try new things. I guess its a good thing because my play style seems to change with the seasons.
A stamina scout is nice to have for the initial push on skirmish. Just give him a drop uplink and any weapon you like then rush a far objective early and set up your spawn. |
I HateMyFace
BetaMax.
13
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Posted - 2013.02.05 15:54:00 -
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Warchild Zek wrote:I HateMyFace wrote:I suppose you guys are right. I believe the skill i dumped into is called vigor so i could use stamina modules but i never use them. I have some in the tranferrable skills that you were talking about, And there are others ive spaced out to try new things. I guess its a good thing because my play style seems to change with the seasons. A stamina scout is nice to have for the initial push on skirmish. Just give him a drop uplink and any weapon you like then rush a far objective early and set up your spawn.
Thanks for the advice i didnt think about that. |
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0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
114
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Posted - 2013.02.05 16:57:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:just change direction, a skill isnt wasted.
-1
The devs posted that it'll take something like 7 years to skill in to everything. If you don't want to wait 7 years to make a skill that you'd never use until then, make a new main. I'd actually just make a new PSN account. That way you can continue to earn passive SP on this guy and make your new main do whatever.
New account = passive SP for both characters.
I am going all vehicles on this guy. It makes sense for me, after I finish tanking, to go pilot too. I have another dude that's infantry.
If I were to combine both infantry and tanking/vehicles in this 1 guy, I'd suck at both instead of being really good at one or the other. Two + guys lets me do whatever I want. Another reason I like having a bunch of passive SP alts is that I can try out whatever I want on them and see if I like it. If I like it, I can do it on one of my main guys, and if not I haven't wasted points.
Anyways, many of the players are fine being bad now and (possibly) alright 7 years from now. I like being good now and good later, so alts ftw for me.
edit: I saw the new posts, and like warchild zek said, vigor is a fine skill for infantry. |
I HateMyFace
BetaMax.
13
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Posted - 2013.02.05 17:42:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:just change direction, a skill isnt wasted. -1 The devs posted that it'll take something like 7 years to skill in to everything. If you don't want to wait 7 years to make a skill that you'd never use until then, make a new main. I'd actually just make a new PSN account. That way you can continue to earn passive SP on this guy and make your new main do whatever. New account = passive SP for both characters. I am going all vehicles on this guy. It makes sense for me, after I finish tanking, to go pilot too. I have another dude that's infantry. If I were to combine both infantry and tanking/vehicles in this 1 guy, I'd suck at both instead of being really good at one or the other. Two + guys lets me do whatever I want. Another reason I like having a bunch of passive SP alts is that I can try out whatever I want on them and see if I like it. If I like it, I can do it on one of my main guys, and if not I haven't wasted points. Anyways, many of the players are fine being bad now and (possibly) alright 7 years from now. I like being good now and good later, so alts ftw for me. edit: I saw the new posts, and like warchild zek said, vigor is a fine skill for infantry.
Dam thats what i was thinking at first but i primarily play infantry and its nice to be able go switch back and forh without logging out. Would be nice to remove the space in my name as well but its kind of growing on me. Just feels like wasted time vs "wasted" sp. Such a difficult decision for me. But when talking about 7 years it still seems early in the game |
I HateMyFace
BetaMax.
13
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Posted - 2013.02.05 17:46:00 -
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stormtroopin wrote:if i were you i wouldn't start over with a new char. keep playing as ihatemyface and just TREAT him as starting over. if you change direction where you're investing skills, it's almost the same as creating a new character, only the skills you've already invested in provide some latteral upgrade. keep the same guy, but serisouly plan out what you want to upgrade in. this is one of the advantages of being a closed beta player. we've been through this sometimes three and four times over, and each time get better at what we invest in the skill tree.
Keep coming back to this |
Alben Kamijou
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.02.06 02:36:00 -
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Yea just keep that character and place your skill points to the skills you currently want now~ Since somewhere down the road the skills you chose now might be handy later on~ |
Jackof All-Trades
Bojo's School of the Trades
78
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Posted - 2013.02.06 07:38:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:just change direction, a skill isnt wasted. +1 This is the same reason why I don't understand training alts for specialized jobs. It's a pain in the butt to switch characters and even more painful to train core skills to be effective. Training a wide range of roles to standard level is also a good idea and super easy. Need to shoot a pesky LAV? Switch to your swarm fit. Sniper harassing your team? Switch to sniper and take him down. When done switch back to your preferred fit. I basically live by this philosophy. However, Jack of All Trades, master of none. Specialization is powerful, and I have both of my alts already working to achieve some specializations (vehicle and heavy). It's hard to rake up so much SP for so many skills without having a focus and just thinking "I'll dump them anywhere". For this character (Jackof All-Trades) I tend to skill to advanced before moving on. Worst cases, I don't have enough SP for core skills.
Food for thought. |
Irish Syn
Chernova Industries
123
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Posted - 2013.02.06 08:50:00 -
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I started out putting all my skill points in vehicles, and then a little bit ago I realized there are militia vehicles. Really ticked me off, especially because they are not that much worse than the skill ones. But as everyone said, no skill is wasted. Nothing stopping you from working towards other skills with your current character. |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
47
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Posted - 2013.02.06 16:10:00 -
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Irish Syn wrote:I started out putting all my skill points in vehicles, and then a little bit ago I realized there are militia vehicles. Really ticked me off, especially because they are not that much worse than the skill ones. But as everyone said, no skill is wasted. Nothing stopping you from working towards other skills with your current character. I put all my skills towards vehicles, or more specifically tanking them. I can tell you that there is a HUGE difference between a Viper with 1700 shield and a Myron with 4000 (and more when I have some skills in a few days here). The main difference I notice now is that swarm launchers are an annoyance, not a threat. What with CCP handing out militia swarms for free, it's good to get that issue off the table. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
294
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Posted - 2013.02.06 17:03:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:just change direction, a skill isnt wasted. -1 The devs posted that it'll take something like 7 years to skill in to everything. If you don't want to wait 7 years to make a skill that you'd never use until then, make a new main. I'd actually just make a new PSN account. That way you can continue to earn passive SP on this guy and make your new main do whatever. New account = passive SP for both characters. I am going all vehicles on this guy. It makes sense for me, after I finish tanking, to go pilot too. I have another dude that's infantry. If I were to combine both infantry and tanking/vehicles in this 1 guy, I'd suck at both instead of being really good at one or the other. Two + guys lets me do whatever I want. Another reason I like having a bunch of passive SP alts is that I can try out whatever I want on them and see if I like it. If I like it, I can do it on one of my main guys, and if not I haven't wasted points. Anyways, many of the players are fine being bad now and (possibly) alright 7 years from now. I like being good now and good later, so alts ftw for me. edit: I saw the new posts, and like warchild zek said, vigor is a fine skill for infantry.
In business terms this is a Sunk Cost. It's already happened and nothing you do will undo it. Creating a new character to unload that skill isn't gaining you anything unless you can go back in time and that ain't happening. You really want to dump the other skills you trained during that time as well and start fresh? |
I HateMyFace
BetaMax.
13
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Posted - 2013.02.07 16:30:00 -
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Not really reav. I've decided to stick with this character. Thanks for the.insight guys/gals
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M3DIC 2U
RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention
13
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:32:00 -
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Plus the added vigor can make for some interesting characters... heavy with double cardiacs + shotty = fun times once in a while. Heck just seeing a fatty haul ass is laughs enough for me. |
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