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Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:11:00 - [1] - Quote or at least a special suit (like a type-c) or something that lets them use a second light weapon instead of the sidearm slot. yes? basically i hate tanks. and assaults should have more guns to set them apart.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:14:00 - [2] - Quote I am a firm believer in unrestricting the weapon/equipment slots so you can carry whatever combination you please. Sidearms should be balanced by their lower fitting cost, and equipment only should be optional.
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:25:00 - [3] - Quote that's an awesome idea or if they run into balancing issues they could just make the drop-suit move slower like with the armor! seems logical that a higher fitting cost would sap from the kinetic power
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:29:00 - [4] - Quote A mass for all modules would be an excellent balance tool! Why didn't anyone seriously bring this up before, EVE even does it that way.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 434	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:33:00 - [5] - Quote So basically your asking to buff the assault suit and nerf the scout suit. An Shotgun and Laser Rifle combination that can be wielded by one player sounds, and I've rarely every used this term in all the 3 months I've been here, overpowered. Maybe if the Scout Type II could have two light weapons and no equipment. But the assault has versatility, having OK armor and second best mobility. No, assault suits should not have two light weapons, if anything the scout suit should.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:38:00 - [6] - Quote No, the same thing would apply to the scout suit. They could carry two light weapons if they wished, but would likely stick to smgs for the extra mobility. The whole concept of "heavy-light-sidearm-grenade-equipement" balance is becoming a hindrance to adding new gear since they need to be balanced as a class on TOP of as a weapon. Sharpshooter, Reload, Ammo, Etc could then be grouped by function type (hybrid, projectile, laser, explosives, etc). Much easier to expand and tweak balance in the future, IMO.
Ruyan Aldent Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 49	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:41:00 - [7] - Quote Maybe make swarm launchers a side arm? They are more useless than a pistol and SMG in most circumstances.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:43:00 - [8] - Quote Then... logistics should have sidearms scouts should get more HP heavies should get an equipment slot If assault gets this huge buff/variant, other suits need a buff/variants to balance it out. I think it might happen since I saw an assault suit with 2 light slots in the fitting screen of this vid http://youtu.be/Xnt1tTlnqfY?t=26s
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 388	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:43:00 - [9] - Quote I would love this, shotty and sniper for uber gallendari pride and scout forge for a wtf really mobile pwn
Patoman Radiant ZionTCD Legacy Rising 53	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:46:00 - [10] - Quote not supported

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:47:00 - [11] - Quote Ruyan Aldent wrote: Maybe make swarm launchers a side arm? They are more useless than a pistol and SMG in most circumstances. They should be grouped by function, and fitting+weight can keep forge scouts from running around willy nilly. Swarms, AV grenades, Flux grenades, Forges, and the new plasma cannon all do AV in different ways, with different fitting costs. A massive weight penalty for the forges (or even a suit class restriction, if necessary for heavy weapons) should be the exception, not the rule. Sorry for hijacking the thread Brass, but your suggestion was just so perfect I'm running through how it could fix major parts of the game
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:53:00 - [12] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Then... logistics should have sidearms scouts should get more HP heavies should get an equipment slot If assault gets this huge buff/variant, other suits need a buff/variants to balance it out. I think it might happen since I saw an assault suit with 2 light slots in the fitting screen of this vid http://youtu.be/Xnt1tTlnqfY?t=26s Agreed - but then they are carrying less of other things, furthermore they could go with NO "weapons" and stick to pure support Agreed - but only if they are never getting their speed back Agreed - but can they fit it with their massive fitting costs of the heavy weapons? Forge + nanohive is an obvious concern, but can be balanced with higher cluster costs per reload, and giving up a sidearm or grenades Needing to distinguish between what is a weapon, grenade, and equipment is a roadblock to adding cool stuff that would be unbalanced in one or the other. There are places for hard limits (like heavy weapons) but I would rather see that as the exception than the rule.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 388	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:54:00 - [13] - Quote Of course major drawbacks for using heavy weapons on any other dropsuit but I'm against a hard block for it, even bs weapons can fit on cruisers in eve, hell sometimes cruiser weapons on frigates.
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:57:00 - [14] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Sorry for hijacking the thread Brass, but your suggestion was just so perfect I'm running through how it could fix major parts of the game No worries man "you do you" ..as they say. i do think you make good points. although the issue now has become something different than the original idea. imo
Odiain Suliis ZionTCD Legacy Rising 112	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:00:00 - [15] - Quote This is a bad idea, basically OP is wanting to take away a need for dirrefent roles and suit catecories and make all suits pretty much the same. If one needs to have more weapons to combat different kinds of situations on battlefield, then have a different suits for that and swap suits in supply depot. Or heavens sake have a squad mate run as that suit to cover that role.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:00:00 - [16] - Quote Brass Stalker wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Sorry for hijacking the thread Brass, but your suggestion was just so perfect I'm running through how it could fix major parts of the game No worries man "you do you" ..as they say. i do think you make good points. although the issue now has become something different than the original idea. imo I've been in love with the idea of two light weapons for assault since E3, but the weight as a balance metric actually opens more interesting doors.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:01:00 - [17] - Quote Odiain Suliis wrote: This is a bad idea, basically OP is wanting to take away a need for dirrefent roles and suit catecories and make all suits pretty much the same. If one needs to have more weapons to combat different kinds of situations on battlefield, then have a different suits for that and swap suits in supply depot. Or heavens sake have a squad mate run as that suit to cover that role. I hijacked it. Don't blame OP.
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:15:00 - [18] - Quote Odiain Suliis wrote: This is a bad idea, basically OP is wanting to take away a need for dirrefent roles and suit catecories and make all suits pretty much the same. If one needs to have more weapons to combat different kinds of situations on battlefield, then have a different suits for that and swap suits in supply depot. Or heavens sake have a squad mate run as that suit to cover that role. I want vastly different roles! I just think people should be able to make the CHOICES they want and let the consequences be on the battlefield. so if you want to have a Launcher and a HMG as a scout. you could. but you wont be able move unless you have 3 complex power upgrades on a protosuit! you feel me? even then you could only move slightly faster than a militia heavy. but at least you could do it. edit: and in the end i think that mentality sets a ccp game apart from the others.
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:35:00 - [19] - Quote it all comes down to when your making your suit fit and you go "wait i cant do this because its dumb" and "wait i cant do this because i cant" but that's a different topic..
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 168	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:50:00 - [20] - Quote No. No suit has two specialized weapon slots. Heavy has one H. Assault has one L. A laser & AR would be a devastating combination. Upgrade your SMG or Scrambler Pistol like the rest of us. Or run a Logi Bro and learn to do without. Hey Dev! Make this guy only use Militia Logistics for the next year. Don't forget to cut his CPU in half. @Odiain Suliis has the opposing view well stated.

Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.05 06:46:00 - [21] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: No. A laser & AR would be a devastating combination. this is true
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 06:52:00 - [22] - Quote Brass Stalker wrote: KalOfTheRathi wrote: No. A laser & AR would be a devastating combination. this is true Would be a massive strain on CPU. Something is giving somewhere, and they can't fire both at once.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.02.05 07:25:00 - [23] - Quote Seriously this suggestion is dumb like hell.. 2 light weapon slot ? Why not a 4 nade slot suit ? Let s be serious a moment....
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 434	Posted - 2013.02.05 07:27:00 - [24] - Quote Yeah the point about CPU and PG is correct. There's no way you can fit 2 Light Weapons and fit anything else on an Assault suit. Maybe on a Proto with Maximum Skills and CPU enhancers+PG Upgrades....Maybe Still Assaults don't deserve it. Scout Type II is like a logi with much weaker HP and less Modules. WTF is up with that.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 07:38:00 - [25] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Seriously this suggestion is dumb like hell.. 2 light weapon slot ? Why not a 4 nade slot suit ? Let s be serious a moment.... Why not? Grenadier sounds like a fun class.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 07:39:00 - [26] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Yeah the point about CPU and PG is correct. There's no way you can fit 2 Light Weapons and fit anything else on an Assault suit. Maybe on a Proto with Maximum Skills and CPU enhancers+PG Upgrades....Maybe Still Assaults don't deserve it. Scout Type II is like a logi with much weaker HP and less Modules. WTF is up with that. Scout type 2 might be moving to the melee specialist. Notice the B-series base melee skill? That was a typo but Wolfman liked the idea. The Logi 2 >>>> scout 2 has been a known problem since they came out.
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.05 07:40:00 - [27] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Seriously this suggestion is dumb like hell.. 2 light weapon slot ? Why not a 4 nade slot suit ? Let s be serious a moment.... theres only 1 grenade slot per suit.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.02.05 07:43:00 - [28] - Quote Brass Stalker wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Seriously this suggestion is dumb like hell.. 2 light weapon slot ? Why not a 4 nade slot suit ? Let s be serious a moment.... theres only 1 grenade slot per suit. There doesn't have to be. Just today we were asked what we thought of a suit with 2 grenade slots. Why not let the player choose?
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.05 07:47:00 - [29] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Brass Stalker wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Seriously this suggestion is dumb like hell.. 2 light weapon slot ? Why not a 4 nade slot suit ? Let s be serious a moment.... theres only 1 grenade slot per suit. There doesn't have to be. Just today we were asked what we thought of a suit with 2 grenade slots. Why not let the player choose? thats cool. im sure whatever suit they put out is going to be balanced.. eventually.
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.05 07:50:00 - [30] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Yeah the point about CPU and PG is correct. There's no way you can fit 2 Light Weapons and fit anything else on an Assault suit. Maybe on a Proto with Maximum Skills and CPU enhancers+PG Upgrades....Maybe Still Assaults don't deserve it. Scout Type II is like a logi with much weaker HP and less Modules. WTF is up with that. Scout type 2 might be moving to the melee specialist. Notice the B-series base melee skill? That was a typo but Wolfman liked the idea. The Logi 2 >>>> scout 2 has been a known problem since they came out. thats was a typo?! as in its not really a melee suit?



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