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CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:06:00 - [1] - Quote This is a suggestion based on actual warfare and planetary assault. In a battle dropships deploy from a base or from the hanger of a battleship like the MCC. I isn't realistic or strategic to deploy out to the field then bring in a ship. It would be betting to spawn in the MCC get to a module in a hanger and and call their ship. Then maybe there could a animation where the ship comes up from the floor or something and then everyone gets an and the pilot takes off out to the field. And you should be able to fly the ships back to the MCC when you're done with them, because you don't always need dropships the whole game and you cant send them back when done. So they self destruct and they can get pretty expensive.
Irish Syn Chernova Industries 123	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:15:00 - [2] - Quote Requesting dropships in the battle doesn't bother me, but I definitely agree we need an option to return our dropship (or any vehicles) when we don't need them anymore and don't want to abandon them in the wild because that gets expensive.
Vaerana Myshtana ScIdama Endless Renaissance 205	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:26:00 - [3] - Quote I suspect that as the game evolves, there will be new battle modes that deal with that kind of thing. For instance: INSERTION- Fight to capture or destroy an anti-spacecraft installation to make it safe for the attacker's Warbarge to enter a specific geostationary orbit. All attacking forces have to arrive by Heavy Dropship and have no off-map support. LANDING- Fight to establish "Planethead" (beachhead) in which you are trying to take control of a district as your dirtside base. In that case, deployments for the attackers would take longer. The commander on the Warbarge can drop installations, but they take longer to land until the area is made safe for the attackers' MCC by taking control of the defenders' NULL Cannons and CRUs.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 970	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:45:00 - [4] - Quote Is it just me, or has anyone else wondered how anything can get deployed from the War barge in orbit in 15 seconds? Even assuming that there are RDVs waiting with vehicles already loaded, it has to undock and de-orbit to make it to the battlefield. Low Earth Orbit is about 200 miles at minimum, which means the RDV has to average 48,000 mph with the peak speed occurring within the atmosphere! Does this mesh with current New Eden technology?
Bigglesworth McQueen On The Brink 43	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:50:00 - [5] - Quote Skihids wrote: Is it just me, or has anyone else wondered how anything can get deployed from the War barge in orbit in 15 seconds? Even assuming that there are RDVs waiting with vehicles already loaded, it has to undock and de-orbit to make it to the battlefield. Low Earth Orbit is about 200 miles at minimum, which means the RDV has to average 48,000 mph with the peak speed occurring within the atmosphere! Does this mesh with current New Eden technology? Well, ****. That is an extremely good point.
CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:55:00 - [6] - Quote Irish Syn wrote: Requesting dropships in the battle doesn't bother me, but I definitely agree we need an option to return our dropship (or any vehicles) when we don't need them anymore and don't want to abandon them in the wild because that gets expensive. Im fine with it too, but im talking about reality of it. In an invasion you dont land on a planet and then call in a dropship. You send out a dropship from a starship or whatever and drop soldiers off and do whatever the ship is needed for. Thats how evasions go. On smaller map dropships may not be needed, but in much bigger map (if they add any full scale war sized maps) implementing that would be much more realistic. And please for give my if im pushing this too hard. Im a very tactical player. Ads Dust is the kind of in depth; full scale war game I've been waiting on. I want it to be as accurate to a planetary assault as possible.
CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:58:00 - [7] - Quote Bigglesworth McQueen wrote: Skihids wrote: Is it just me, or has anyone else wondered how anything can get deployed from the War barge in orbit in 15 seconds? Even assuming that there are RDVs waiting with vehicles already loaded, it has to undock and de-orbit to make it to the battlefield. Low Earth Orbit is about 200 miles at minimum, which means the RDV has to average 48,000 mph with the peak speed occurring within the atmosphere! Does this mesh with current New Eden technology? Well, ****. That is an extremely good point. great point
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 96	Posted - 2013.02.04 20:08:00 - [8] - Quote What would be cool is if a vehicle fitting could include a dropsuit fitting, and when you spawn in you can choose to spawn in the vehicle and the next thing you'll see, instead of just appearing in your suit, is the RDV bringing your vehicle (which you are operating) to the battlefield. In the case of aircraft they could even leave out the RDV and you just appear in the air and take control when you get below the flight ceiling. As far as the practicality of an RDV's response time: could they be warping? Can you warp in atmosphere? I've warped through planets, so I assume it's possible.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 970	Posted - 2013.02.04 20:24:00 - [9] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: What would be cool is if a vehicle fitting could include a dropsuit fitting, and when you spawn in you can choose to spawn in the vehicle and the next thing you'll see, instead of just appearing in your suit, is the RDV bringing your vehicle (which you are operating) to the battlefield. In the case of aircraft they could even leave out the RDV and you just appear in the air and take control when you get below the flight ceiling. As far as the practicality of an RDV's response time: could they be warping? Can you warp in atmosphere? I've warped through planets, so I assume it's possible. What is the smallest size ship that you can fit a warp drive on?
Dozer RoadBlock The Amtal Rule 1	Posted - 2013.02.04 20:54:00 - [10] - Quote Skihids wrote: Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: What would be cool is if a vehicle fitting could include a dropsuit fitting, and when you spawn in you can choose to spawn in the vehicle and the next thing you'll see, instead of just appearing in your suit, is the RDV bringing your vehicle (which you are operating) to the battlefield. In the case of aircraft they could even leave out the RDV and you just appear in the air and take control when you get below the flight ceiling. As far as the practicality of an RDV's response time: could they be warping? Can you warp in atmosphere? I've warped through planets, so I assume it's possible. What is the smallest size ship that you can fit a warp drive on? a shuttle has warp capability which is the size of a F-18.......ish

Irish Syn Chernova Industries 123	Posted - 2013.02.04 23:07:00 - [11] - Quote CODE Breaker93 wrote: Irish Syn wrote: Requesting dropships in the battle doesn't bother me, but I definitely agree we need an option to return our dropship (or any vehicles) when we don't need them anymore and don't want to abandon them in the wild because that gets expensive. Im fine with it too, but im talking about reality of it. In an invasion you dont land on a planet and then call in a dropship. You send out a dropship from a starship or whatever and drop soldiers off and do whatever the ship is needed for. Thats how evasions go. On smaller map dropships may not be needed, but in much bigger map (if they add any full scale war sized maps) implementing that would be much more realistic. And please for give my if im pushing this too hard. Im a very tactical player. Ads Dust is the kind of in depth; full scale war game I've been waiting on. I want it to be as accurate to a planetary assault as possible. How about they add a hangar to the MCC and within that hangar all all your vehicles, but you have to specify which vehicles you want to put on the MCC before you go to battle. Then when the invasion starts you can spawn in the MCC, run to the hangar, and hop in your dropship or other vehicle and go. All vehicles would have to have the driver seat locked to the owner. If you brought land vehicles in the MCC hanger then you'd have to call in an RDV to assist you to the ground. However the current system would still work of deploying a vehicle anywhere on the map because what it would be doing is requesting an RDV to take your vehicle out of the hangar and to your location. And then to follow logic if your MCC gets destroyed you lose all vehicles that you still had in the hangar, adding more risk. When it'd about to explode I imagine everyone would be in a mad dash to get their stuff out like you would expect from an evacuation. That would be awesome, however you'd have to leave that for faction warfare and planetary conquest. For public quick matches that level of risk isn't needed.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1062	Posted - 2013.02.04 23:28:00 - [12] - Quote I've seen what MIGHT be a fighter bay on an MCC (need to do more 'splorin' with my lolship to look inside the hole). Even with that, I doubt it would be able to launch dropships from that bay. We definitely need this.
Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 73	Posted - 2013.02.04 23:39:00 - [13] - Quote Skihids wrote: Is it just me, or has anyone else wondered how anything can get deployed from the War barge in orbit in 15 seconds? Even assuming that there are RDVs waiting with vehicles already loaded, it has to undock and de-orbit to make it to the battlefield. Low Earth Orbit is about 200 miles at minimum, which means the RDV has to average 48,000 mph with the peak speed occurring within the atmosphere! Does this mesh with current New Eden technology? I think they come from the MCC, not the Warbarge. I could be wrong, but that would explain the time... As for the OP, I completely agree with anything that involves more hangers and internal rooms within the MCC. It's just too awesome looking to function as nothing more than a room for our soldiers to jump out of
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 970	Posted - 2013.02.05 04:29:00 - [14] - Quote It's been stated that vehicles are deployed from the war barge. Ok, so the RDV must have micro jump capability that works in the atmosphere and while cloaked. That's the only way it could possibly work.
Jason Punk DUST University Ivy League 71	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:35:00 - [15] - Quote Skihids wrote: It's been stated that vehicles are deployed from the war barge. Ok, so the RDV must have micro jump capability that works in the atmosphere and while cloaked. That's the only way it could possibly work. Yeah, actually I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works... X) As for functionality, I suppose it would be nicer to just drop down IN your nasty tank/ aerocraft...I mean even more on the second one. Personally I'd like to drop in my "dropsuit" every time unless I'm spawning from a clone reserve ^^
CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:42:00 - [16] - Quote Arron Rift wrote: Skihids wrote: Is it just me, or has anyone else wondered how anything can get deployed from the War barge in orbit in 15 seconds? Even assuming that there are RDVs waiting with vehicles already loaded, it has to undock and de-orbit to make it to the battlefield. Low Earth Orbit is about 200 miles at minimum, which means the RDV has to average 48,000 mph with the peak speed occurring within the atmosphere! Does this mesh with current New Eden technology? I think they come from the MCC, not the Warbarge. I could be wrong, but that would explain the time... As for the OP, I completely agree with anything that involves more hangers and internal rooms within the MCC. It's just too awesome looking to function as nothing more than a room for our soldiers to jump out of good point
CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:45:00 - [17] - Quote Jason Punk wrote: Skihids wrote: It's been stated that vehicles are deployed from the war barge. Ok, so the RDV must have micro jump capability that works in the atmosphere and while cloaked. That's the only way it could possibly work. Yeah, actually I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works... X) As for functionality, I suppose it would be nicer to just drop down IN your nasty tank/ aerocraft...I mean even more on the second one. Personally I'd like to drop in my "dropsuit" every time unless I'm spawning from a clone reserve ^^ Of course you'd be able to spawn and drop from the MCC if you want.
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 168	Posted - 2013.02.05 05:59:00 - [18] - Quote Been there. Posted that, well, someone else did. Several times in fact. I think it is cute but a waste of precious development resources when the Beta doesn't work yet. Not to mention the Used To Work But Are Now Broken Small Missile Turrets!
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.02.05 11:20:00 - [19] - Quote Yesss!!!! Maybe larger classes of MCCs with full vehicles bays. End game sitting on the MCC while it makes planetfall. Oh exciting.
Kovinis Sparagas Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends 58	Posted - 2013.02.05 11:33:00 - [20] - Quote Dozer RoadBlock wrote: Skihids wrote: Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: What would be cool is if a vehicle fitting could include a dropsuit fitting, and when you spawn in you can choose to spawn in the vehicle and the next thing you'll see, instead of just appearing in your suit, is the RDV bringing your vehicle (which you are operating) to the battlefield. In the case of aircraft they could even leave out the RDV and you just appear in the air and take control when you get below the flight ceiling. As far as the practicality of an RDV's response time: could they be warping? Can you warp in atmosphere? I've warped through planets, so I assume it's possible. What is the smallest size ship that you can fit a warp drive on? a shuttle has warp capability which is the size of a F-18.......ish Drones also have warp drives. Witch are smaller. Oh heck! Probes also have warp drives! witch are very small. I don't know the size of them, but Pod is 4 meters long, and it has warp drive too.

Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.02.05 11:40:00 - [21] - Quote Planetary invasion, stage 1 Deploy CRU units via orbital ballistic insertion. Transmit activation codes. Transmit mercs to CRU clones which are pre-armed and fitted. Begin orbital drop of support installations. Send engagement order and commence on-call asset deployment at ground commanders' discretion. Once campaign is over, send termination codes. All active clones retransmit mercenary consciousness to primary clones. all clones on the ground deactivate (die) and are salvaged as biomass for fast growth cloning. All war materiels recovered via battlefield cleanup drones and replaced in inventory.
Benjamin II Estrada Blue Asteroid Team 0	Posted - 2013.02.05 13:55:00 - [22] - Quote Nice :D Oh by the way... Get on!


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