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Washlee
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:32:00 -
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I feel the new price on the AUR BPO's
Its 6$ For a milita assault rifle BPO now I know you get to keep forever.
But you can use this gun for free
I know the rifle was a bad example.
But the AUR milita gear is alittle over priced.
But before is was way to cheap |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:34:00 -
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personally i only brought the vehicle module bpo's that cost above 15000 isk , the price for infantry kit is way too much when you consider how little they cost in isk |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:41:00 -
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Agreed. I'll just copy/paste what I wrote in a thread about a week ago on the same subject in the Feedback/Requests section:
These prices, in my opinion, are way too high for four major reasons:
1. Quickly replaced by better items. Because these are almost all militia-grade items, they will be quickly replaced. Unless you made a conscious effort to gimp yourself, or are extremely "frugal" when it comes to ISK, there's no reason to use a lot of these for very long, making the price much too high. You might have one or two in a later fit just because you've spent your SP elsewhere, but it doesn't incentivize people to buy more than that.
2. (Related to 1) People will be paying for something that is actually really poor quality. Not only are these BPOs (the militia ones) the least effective, they also take more PG/CPU than regular low-level variants, meaning you're even less likely to use them in the long run.
3. Low price ISK alternatives. When you're getting 200,000+ ISK a match and the item you see priced at 5 dollars costs like 600 ISK per fit, you're either not going to buy the Aurum version, or you're going to be pissed you already bought it, making you less likely to pay for more stuff in the future.
4. Can't switch BPOs between characters. Potentially the only redeeming quality of these absurdly high prices would be the ability to use them on multiple characters instead of having to buy one for each guy. But you can't. |
Washlee
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:46:00 -
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Before the BPO's were very cheap. They were easily taken advantage of.
But now its over priced
It should be lowered but not like before. |
Snaps Tremor
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:49:00 -
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All those reasons would have the devs (and a lot of players) nodding in agreement, not clamouring to change the system. The jump in price was a logical step to wean people off the idea of finding comfortable zero-sum fits, raking in the cash for playing without ever having to engage in the risk/reward system at the core of Dust.
Overall, the blueprint prices are pretty poor value for what you get in return, but intelligent purchases (instead of the old system of just blanket-purchasing everything on the store) can save you a lot of money in the long run. Stupid purchases won't. It's very much in line with the way Eve and CCP operate. |
Phoenix Archer 128
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:51:00 -
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They should probably be 1/2 to 3/4 the price they are now. I grabbed them all when they were 20-50 AUR a piece (except the suits, which I can't remember what they were priced at, but even the Type-Is were less than 10K I think), and they were just too cheap. The Type-Is probably should be around 15K, the militia suits around 5-7K, guns between 3K and 5K, and mods/equipment probably 2-4K. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.03 00:52:00 -
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They were cheap before because, CCP was letting us do "closed" beta testing, and they wanted us to take advantage of the low prices for when the player market opened. This way we could flood the market with these special items for ISK, or other goods. When we got close to open beta testing, they [CCP] increased the price. It's not necessarily overpriced. It is what it was always meant to be more precisely.
Welcome to New Eden. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.03 01:02:00 -
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Washlee wrote:I feel the new price on the AUR BPO's
Its 6$ For a milita assault rifle BPO now I know you get to keep forever.
But you can use this gun for free
I know the rifle was a bad example.
But the AUR milita gear is alittle over priced.
But before is was way to cheap
Militia Assault Rifle is 11800 AUR... You get like 50k in AUR for $20... Yea sounds about right |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.03 01:08:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:All those reasons would have the devs (and a lot of players) nodding in agreement, not clamouring to change the system. The jump in price was a logical step to wean people off the idea of finding comfortable zero-sum fits, raking in the cash for playing without ever having to engage in the risk/reward system at the core of Dust.
Overall, the blueprint prices are pretty poor value for what you get in return, but intelligent purchases (instead of the old system of just blanket-purchasing everything on the store) can save you a lot of money in the long run. Stupid purchases won't. It's very much in line with the way Eve and CCP operate.
I'm not denying the prices before were really low, (I'm sure they did that as a courtesy to Closed Beta participants) but the prices now are outrageously high. Sometimes I really wish CCP was more forthcoming with information like exactly how much of a certain (AUR) item has been sold. They have that "Top 5 Sellers" on the market, but that's hardly helpful.
The prices for these BPOs now are just too high. I don't really care either way, I bought the ones I wanted on 3 characters before they raised the price, I'd just like to see newer players have a reasonably priced option. |
Snaps Tremor
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.03 02:55:00 -
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In this interview the devs mentioned that one of the first trading things they'll be implementing is a direct player-to-player system, before moving on to corp and eventually Eve/Dust transfers. Once that's in, the prices will make way more sense, as people can 'pass on' the militia blueprints they no longer need to other members or even a central corp repository. They just switched the prices as early as possible to avoid the open beta influx seeing the previous test prices as normality.
We can't see the full picture, and they're plopping down bits of jigsaw randomly, but that doesn't mean the pieces are in the wrong place. |
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Chrono Axon
The Triage Elites
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Posted - 2013.02.03 03:04:00 -
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I would say they are a little overpriced, but mainly for the reason that for one, we have free militia items in the form of the starter fit sets, and the fact that we probably will at some point upgrade our weapons to the advanced category. If we were to have advanced weapon BPOs, I suppose the current militia BPO price, or around its point, would be a decent price point. Back to the main point, militia BPOs don't have a reason to be at the price of 11,000 aurem because we already have militia sets that don't run out. If they did run out, then yes I could see the point of a militia BPO at that price. If we were to have items other than militia grade then 11,000 AUR or 12,000-14,000 AUR would be perfect for the price point. The current Militia BPO items I would think are only worth about, maybe 6,000-9,000 AUR. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.03 03:19:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:In this interview the devs mentioned that one of the first trading things they'll be implementing is a direct player-to-player system, before moving on to corp and eventually Eve/Dust transfers. Once that's in, the prices will make way more sense, as people can 'pass on' the militia blueprints they no longer need to other members or even a central corp repository. They just switched the prices as early as possible to avoid the open beta influx seeing the previous test prices as normality. We can't see the full picture, and they're plopping down bits of jigsaw randomly, but that doesn't mean the pieces are in the wrong place.
Though I haven't listened to the full interview yet, if the previous development pace of this game is any indication, we won't be seeing that sort of implementation for a long time. It should also be noted that the prices you're seeing now are ten times higher than the ones CCP initially said they were going to change the BPOs to. It's not like Monday afternoon they had no intention of letting people sell Militia BPOs down the line, and then Tuesday morning everyone decided it was a good idea.
It seems clear to me (and members of CCP as well, judging by the prices that were going to be used) that these prices are way too high. |
amarrian victorian
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.03 04:04:00 -
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militia gear itself is only like 800isk each it's cheaper to buy militia gear than buy the bpos, imo the only thing worth buying with RL cash is the SP boosters, and I am ok with this. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.03 04:07:00 -
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More BPOs less price. The whole 'suite' of milita bpos shouldn't combine go over 50usd imo. Adjusts prices based on usage expectancy power and of course no vehicle hulls. |
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