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Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance
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Posted - 2013.02.03 05:47:00 -
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The consciousness is a very sensitive thing, but something not unlike OP's idea happens to capsuleers, whose pod nuero-feedback systems cause them to essentially become the ship they are flying.
It is likely to guess that most of the skillbooks deal with pyschological preparation for existing as a battlecruiser for potentially years on end, and therefore it can be assumed that New Eden technology allows infantry to take on a different physical form as well.
The first faction to make use of this is the Sansha - ever seen the True Slave computer item? The person has become a datasystem, and only snaps out of it for long enough to frown for a second. In the same vein, I expect Sansha MTACs to be operated by heads-in-jars...
Of course, even though we can shift the consciousness to a new clone, I do not recollect any technology that allows the "soul" to enter anything else - a requirement for OP vision. The Sansha have subverted this by making use of head-in-jar technology, but that is far too macabre for the Four Empires or CONCORD. |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.03 06:10:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:i want to be a terminator!!
The T-800 (Arnie's / Sam "JakeSully" Worthington's) were biological bodies with Terminator endoskeletons, with what was basically a Sansha-style implant controlling them.
So in theory, we could be made into Terminators, even though dropsuit technology actually renders the Terminator system obsolete.
P.S. they are T-800s right?
P.P.S. Octopus? ah well, at least you aren't a fish with eyeglasses...
A high school teacher pulled out an old Don Knotts movie that involved that particular kind of thing (yes, THAT Don Knotts) |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance
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Posted - 2013.02.03 06:23:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:
and we could still transfer bodies upon destruction, it would just be a more durable form
EDIT: the T-800's were the arnold models
Until you want to shield-tank...
And yes, you could still clonejump, but the dropsuit is more heavily armored than something that has to be the size of a skeleton, and is easier to upgrade at will than something that is inside the clone.
However, I don't see anything wrong with a T-800 wearing a dropsuit - Might give us a little more meatbag health to work with...
P.S. oh great, that is probably what the Sansha have been kidnapping bodies for - to throw at us waves of T-800-style soldiers that are also wearing dropsuits.  |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.04 04:55:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:
what's this about "souls"? never read anything about them in the EVE backstories.
further explanation and definition of the "soul" required
Forgot to mention that I use the terms "consciousness" and "soul" interchangeably - they mean the same thing, the only difference is that the former is the somewhat-scientific term, and the latter is often a spiritual term.
I prefer the latter due to it simply being easier to spell.
The "soul" is described as successfully transferred in New Eden lore, hence you are truly immortal as a clone soldier or capsuleer. An example is the instant transfer mentioned in the "Immortals" trailer.
So basically:
soul = consciousness ---- I simply picked the easier-to-type one.
P.S.
the Star Trek teleporters are an enigma - there is no classical-physics transfer of brain activity between the two locations, so the soul is suspected by many to be lost in the transfer.
However, it seems that the transporter (really a modified Replicator) may work by producing a quantum entanglement between the two bodies - in quantum physics, that means they occupy the same state and in some cases act like one body.
If the bodies are indeed entangled, then a soul could "consider" both bodies as the same, producing the same effect as a New Eden clone jump.
It's highly theoretical since both involve tech far beyond the 21st Century, but that could mean that a Star Trek transporter allows such a transfer, hence allowing you to be "yourself" when the teleport is completed.
P.P.S. To go further would delve into philosophy that has been pondered by the greatest minds since the beginning of human history, which is beyond the mental ability of many (including me). |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:36:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Good point. It would be a dumb way to die, being gods of genetic manipulation, yet still fail at fixing a genetic problem..
Tragic irony - a plot device of many classics, as it's equal parts fitting to the characters and warning to the audience.
I would have to double-check the EVElopedia article, but I believe one of the final-term symptoms was a loss of the will to live - hence, you would be correct. |
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