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Roel Yento II
Mikramurka Shock Troop
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:35:00 -
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What the op asks for would work fine but honestly it doesnt need to be implemented. The reason it works in eve is because you have an escape pod that can get away and your implants will be destroyed if you are podded. Until loseable implants come in and a larger disparity between a decked out fit and militia fit com into play, i don't see a need for clone costs.
In EVE, the rookie fit ships are pretty weak and stand little to no chance in pvp. Game mechanics are different though and a rookie ship is capable of at least flying your pod to a market to buy a new ship. In Dust, due to game mechanics, someone who is a solid shooter and evader can do well. Once more advanced gear is out, sizeable corporate payements for contracts, and harvesting planets for resources come up. More people will be investing into better gear and militia geared teams vs decked out teams of equal skill, guess who will win and keep their planets.
Just my guess at it but no need for clone prices until the market is better fleshed out or integrated with eve. |
Roel Yento II
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:08:00 -
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JohnDS Wolf wrote:Roel Yento II wrote:More people will be investing into better gear and militia geared teams vs decked out teams of equal skill, guess who will win and keep their planets.
This....is not acceptable. i OH GOD PLEASE hope that this dose not happen, dust would die faster than you could believe.
Why is it not acceptable? A team of equal skill but more finances should obviously win. Why should a team unwilling to invest in their success be able to beat an equally skilled team that invests in their military? What i am talking about is corp battles not random pub matches with strangers. I'm sure militia gear in pub matches will still be common, especially since the pay is crap for those.
Understanding how much null sec eve pilots make an hour you will see there is potential for merc corps to make money and supply their troops with good gear. In EVE, corps that are broke don't make a mark on the map typically,. Many corps are made and die in EVE, corps that invest time and resources into their players and infrastructure tend to do better. You won't see successful corps that fly nothing but rookie ships to battle. |
Roel Yento II
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:45:00 -
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JohnDS Wolf wrote:Roel Yento II wrote:JohnDS Wolf wrote:Roel Yento II wrote:More people will be investing into better gear and militia geared teams vs decked out teams of equal skill, guess who will win and keep their planets.
This....is not acceptable. i OH GOD PLEASE hope that this dose not happen, dust would die faster than you could believe. Why is it not acceptable? A team of equal skill but more finances should obviously win. Why should a team unwilling to invest in their success be able to beat an equally skilled team that invests in their military? What i am talking about is corp battles not random pub matches with strangers. I'm sure militia gear in pub matches will still be common, especially since the pay is crap for those. Understanding how much null sec eve pilots make an hour you will see there is potential for merc corps to make money and supply their troops with good gear. In EVE, corps that are broke don't make a mark on the map typically,. Many corps are made and die in EVE, corps that invest time and resources into their players and infrastructure tend to do better. You won't see successful corps that fly nothing but rookie ships to battle. see....theres the flaw in your design right there. the EvE corps are outfiting their Dust mercs, which means that they got free high grade equipment they can use at no charge AND can troll newbs for more ISK and SP. it turns into Be in a corp or you can't win sanario, which shouldn't be forced on newbies.
Thats how EVE works, what one man army holds space as their own? Individuals play eve and do solo things just fine, they can be rich too but they won't own nullsec regions or a system. You can play solo pub matches or matches with friends all you want. You won't own planets though and won't have tons of resources that come from having your own planet. You might even be able to be hired by corps for battles but again you won't own space. Again many EVE corps are born and die before they are ever noticed. I'm sure you won't have to be in a corp to win random pub matches though. Match making will probably still exist for pubs that is relatively fair. I'm sure match making will be around for corps that are just focused on matches and not planning on being part of faction warfare or sovereign warfare too. |
Roel Yento II
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.01 21:24:00 -
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which is why combat is optional in EvE. know you'll get your but kicked...go around a conflict.
This is Dust, the only thing we know, is we can't run away.[/quote]
People suicide gank players all the time in EVE so even those that avoid it at some point lose money. Even pvp'ers that run when a big fleet shows up have to worry about tacklers,Heavy Interdictor, interdictors, gate camps and such. If you want to avoid fighting vs heavily financed mercs, stick to pub matches or arranged matches. Why hoard all your money and never spend it on better gear though, just curious? There is a balnce between cost efficiency and being risk adverse. More gear will define the difference better down the road.
Sorry derailed main topic. Still think isk for clones is bad idea until the market and trading is fleshed out propperly. PvE and harvesting or manufacturing could help too for people that lose everything build back up. |
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