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JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 18:54:00 -
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without a clone i am usless. with a clone i'm desposable. i'm cheap, inreliable, and break easly. the only thing that keeps me in the product line is that, unlike drones, i get the job done at the fraction of the cost. the only freedom i get is who and what i chose to fight for, and the loadout i bring into battle.
oh and, what's the point of an MMOFPS if you can't respawn. |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:05:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:JohnDS Wolf wrote:without a clone i am usless. with a clone i'm desposable. i'm cheap, inreliable, and break easly. the only thing that keeps me in the product line is that, unlike drones, i get the job done at the fraction of the cost. the only freedom i get is who and what i chose to fight for, and the loadout i bring into battle.
oh and, what's the point of an MMOFPS if you can't respawn. elitest want to create a moat between them and the commoner. they think just because they use the highest end equipment and gun down 10 clones for every one clone they use they think they should be compensated by taking away more isk of the people who run smarter builds.
i...can't tell what that's pointing at. are you agreeing with me or loving the little speeched i gave. i'm kinda confused here. |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:15:00 -
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Cade Orion wrote:Yea if you want to kill Dust 514 before it comes out of the gates, sure. We pay for our suits and gear which can be quite a bit. We die often - I'm sure more often than in EVE.
oh and we are MILLITARY GRADE CLONES. not one of those fancy clones that can age like a normal human once they are spead up to adult hood. Fing civies and thier intitalment.
....i'm falling in a dark hole....help me. |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:19:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Cade Orion wrote:Yea if you want to kill Dust 514 before it comes out of the gates, sure. We pay for our suits and gear which can be quite a bit. We die often - I'm sure more often than in EVE. i died twice in my four times in all my time in playing EVE. i don't pvp often so i avoid it as much as possible. i love picking up a combat zone on my directional scanner and getting around it.
sounds like fun. do you do blockade running? or smuggleing? |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:49:00 -
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Roel Yento II wrote:More people will be investing into better gear and militia geared teams vs decked out teams of equal skill, guess who will win and keep their planets.
This....is not acceptable. i OH GOD PLEASE hope that this dose not happen, dust would die faster than you could believe. |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:20:00 -
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Roel Yento II wrote:JohnDS Wolf wrote:Roel Yento II wrote:More people will be investing into better gear and militia geared teams vs decked out teams of equal skill, guess who will win and keep their planets.
This....is not acceptable. i OH GOD PLEASE hope that this dose not happen, dust would die faster than you could believe. Why is it not acceptable? A team of equal skill but more finances should obviously win. Why should a team unwilling to invest in their success be able to beat an equally skilled team that invests in their military? What i am talking about is corp battles not random pub matches with strangers. I'm sure militia gear in pub matches will still be common, especially since the pay is crap for those. Understanding how much null sec eve pilots make an hour you will see there is potential for merc corps to make money and supply their troops with good gear. In EVE, corps that are broke don't make a mark on the map typically,. Many corps are made and die in EVE, corps that invest time and resources into their players and infrastructure tend to do better. You won't see successful corps that fly nothing but rookie ships to battle.
see....theres the flaw in your design right there. the EvE corps are outfiting their Dust mercs, which means that they got free high grade equipment they can use at no charge AND can troll newbs for more ISK and SP.
it turns into Be in a corp or you can't win sanario, which shouldn't be forced on newbies.
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JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 20:52:00 -
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Roel Yento II wrote:JohnDS Wolf wrote:Roel Yento II wrote:JohnDS Wolf wrote:Roel Yento II wrote:More people will be investing into better gear and militia geared teams vs decked out teams of equal skill, guess who will win and keep their planets.
This....is not acceptable. i OH GOD PLEASE hope that this dose not happen, dust would die faster than you could believe. Why is it not acceptable? A team of equal skill but more finances should obviously win. Why should a team unwilling to invest in their success be able to beat an equally skilled team that invests in their military? What i am talking about is corp battles not random pub matches with strangers. I'm sure militia gear in pub matches will still be common, especially since the pay is crap for those. Understanding how much null sec eve pilots make an hour you will see there is potential for merc corps to make money and supply their troops with good gear. In EVE, corps that are broke don't make a mark on the map typically,. Many corps are made and die in EVE, corps that invest time and resources into their players and infrastructure tend to do better. You won't see successful corps that fly nothing but rookie ships to battle. see....theres the flaw in your design right there. the EvE corps are outfiting their Dust mercs, which means that they got free high grade equipment they can use at no charge AND can troll newbs for more ISK and SP. it turns into Be in a corp or you can't win sanario, which shouldn't be forced on newbies. Thats how EVE works, what one man army holds space as their own? Individuals play eve and do solo things just fine, they can be rich too but they won't own nullsec regions or a system. You can play solo pub matches or matches with friends all you want. You won't own planets though and won't have tons of resources that come from having your own planet. You might even be able to be hired by corps for battles but again you won't own space. Again many EVE corps are born and die before they are ever noticed. I'm sure you won't have to be in a corp to win random pub matches though. Match making will probably still exist for pubs that is relatively fair. I'm sure match making will be around for corps that are just focused on matches and not planning on being part of faction warfare or sovereign warfare too.
which is why combat is optional in EvE. know you'll get your but kicked...go around a conflict.
This is Dust, the only thing we know, is we can't run away. |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 21:43:00 -
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Roel Yento II wrote:JohnDS Wolf wrote:
which is why combat is optional in EvE. know you'll get your but kicked...go around a conflict.
This is Dust, the only thing we know, is we can't run away.
People suicide gank players all the time in EVE so even those that avoid it at some point lose money. Even pvp'ers that run when a big fleet shows up have to worry about tacklers,Heavy Interdictor, interdictors, gate camps and such. If you want to avoid fighting vs heavily financed mercs, stick to pub matches or arranged matches. Why hoard all your money and never spend it on better gear though, just curious? There is a balnce between cost efficiency and being risk adverse. More gear will define the difference better down the road. Sorry derailed main topic. Still think isk for clones is bad idea until the market and trading is fleshed out propperly. PvE and harvesting or manufacturing could help too for people that lose everything build back up.
sorry for carrying this on but, fighting dosn't dominate the gameplay in EvE. there for, the slow prosess of building up to a better ship is there. We don't have that luxury in Dust, we fight for EVERYTHING, Money, power, reconision, ect.
please note the EvE's balance will NOT work with Dust's gameplay.
also i disagree with ISK clones. they are pointless EXPECALY when Death happens faster than a lighting strike. |
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