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Grendel Aurelius
Prototype Technology Corp.
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:23:00 -
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I'd like to just take a moment to remind you that you are not really the person you see on your screen when playing this game. Neither are you really on a warbarge about to attack a planet with immortal clones. You are actually playing a game, which by its very definition tends to attract children or adults with a childlike disposition.
I can assure you that your terrible suffrage at the hands of people who are not actually there with you and cannot actually do anything relevant to you, does not warrant the title of 'harassment'.
*snipped sexist and political language* - CCP Eterne |
Grendel Aurelius
Prototype Technology Corp.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 00:47:00 -
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When did society get so weak, thin-skinned, and irrational that interactions that take place online, i.e., NOT REALLY HAPPENING IN THE REAL WORLD, can seriously be considered harassment?
This is all in the same theme as cyber bullying... which will probably be the theme of a new post after someone gets upset about being shot in an FPS game.
Nothing that happens online is REAL. You're actually in the comfort of your own home when these interactions are taking place. If you cannot discern that key difference on your own perhaps you aren't equipped to deal with interacting with faraway people in make believe lands.
When I was a kid and an older kid felt like 'harassing' me with his fists I couldn't just ignore him or turn off the PS3. Wish I could have but in the long run getting smacked around a bit probably did me some good. It just blows my mind that the quality of people can disintegrate so quickly as to allow fake interactions to be seriously mistaken for something like 'harassment'.
If you'd like to see actual examples of sexual harassment I'd recommend you wiki women's suffrage and quit embarrassing yourself with the pretense that anything of the like is possible in this GAME. |
Grendel Aurelius
Prototype Technology Corp.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 02:42:00 -
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Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:So, Grendel, is someone writing an anonymous letter to the newspaper, writing about how he feels all woman need to be completely submissive to men, and how any woman seen outside their homes without their man deserve to be beaten and ******, not considered to be harassing women? Is he not a threat to us? Are woman supposed to just not read the paper or look the other way?
What about a guy calling a woman's home, and threatening her sexually that way? Is she supposed to just hang up every time he calls, threatening her with harm?
Neither of these cases are a man saying these things face-to-face to a woman, but are they to be tolerated? If you don't think I've heard some absolutely sick things guys want to do to me online, you're only kidding yourself; to say that I should ignore this means you are part of the problem.
It must be really convenient to live in crazyland where you can easily equate real world harassment to a situation where you hold all the power to determine YOUR level of exposure to the kind of behavior YOU do not like.
I mean obviously being followed around on a warbarge or being screwed with on voice comms in a video game is the exact same thing as someone in the real world calling your home (and who has a land line anymore anyway) and threatening someone.
Obviously anyone BUT you, with your inability to shrug off that which is truly irrelevant AND OR remove yourself from the situation, is the problem. BTW, the common factor in your problems is you.. but that's probably just a coincidence. |
Grendel Aurelius
Prototype Technology Corp.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 02:48:00 -
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Matobar wrote:Grendel Aurelius wrote:When did society get so weak, thin-skinned, and irrational that interactions that take place online, i.e., NOT REALLY HAPPENING IN THE REAL WORLD, can seriously be considered harassment?
This is all in the same theme as cyber bullying... which will probably be the theme of a new post after someone gets upset about being shot in an FPS game.
Nothing that happens online is REAL. You're actually in the comfort of your own home when these interactions are taking place. If you cannot discern that key difference on your own perhaps you aren't equipped to deal with interacting with faraway people in make believe lands.
When I was a kid and an older kid felt like 'harassing' me with his fists I couldn't just ignore him or turn off the PS3. Wish I could have but in the long run getting smacked around a bit probably did me some good. It just blows my mind that the quality of people can disintegrate so quickly as to allow fake interactions to be seriously mistaken for something like 'harassment'.
If you'd like to see actual examples of sexual harassment I'd recommend you wiki women's suffrage and quit embarrassing yourself with the pretense that anything of the like is possible in this GAME. So you seem to have a very narrow view of harassment. However, I took part of your advice, and wiki'd harassment, and this is the defintion I got: "Harassment is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset, and it is characteristically repetitive. In the legal sense, it is intentional behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing." Nowhere here is there anything that says harassment can take place only in face-to-face situations. Internet-bullying is entirely possible as seen in this case here. It seems I have to repeat myself one more time. Am I saying all men are harassers? No. Am I saying all women are innocent? Also no. But there IS a culture on the internet of men harassing women, sexually or otherwise. As I've said before, all this is doing is harming DUST by driving away a significant potential player base (30% of gamers are women older than 18) because some people can't get their heads out of their collective asses. The best way to combat the unstated truth of female harassment in online games is to empower not just women, but all players with the knowledge that they can quickly and easy submit their grievances to CCP, and that those submitions will be seriously considered. It's very, very easy for someone who has never experienced harassment, especially a man who has not, to claim that there is no problem, or that the problem can be easily dealt with through things like "only squadding with certain people," "voice changing," or "turning off the microphone." But these don't solve the real issue. Instead of telling women to "get over it" or "HTFU" or blaming them for their own victimization, think about what you, personally, can do to make them feel welcome on DUST. And this should extend to all players, because whether you admit it or not the more people playing DUST the better for everyone.
So, by your own admission you have the mentality of an unstable child? because that is what your example equates to. My view of harassment is narrow with regards to the extent reality. If you can remove yourself from the harassment with no consequences then it's not really harassment. A further view could even be taken that by putting yourself repeatedly in these situations and then demanding everyone ELSE modify their behavior, perhaps the problem is actually you.
By the way, why are you being so disagreeable. I see you continually looking down at where my avatar's ***** would be and I feel quite violated right now. So violated that I can' t stop coming back here to be violated over and over again. |
Grendel Aurelius
Prototype Technology Corp.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 03:32:00 -
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Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:Its sad, really sad, that Grendel thinks harassment is perfectly fine.
In a way, he's like those people who blame a woman for being ******; "she should have not been in that place at that time", "she should not have worn that outfit", "she should have fought back" and all those other absolutely BS "excuses" for the villain.
Makes me sick that these people are still accepted in today's society. They'd chance their tunes very quickly if something comparable happened to them, and they got no support or care.
and the crazy train goes CHOOO CHOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. because OBVIOUSLY real world sexual assault is the same thing as your perceived (OHNOS) harassment in a video game. Get a grip.
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