DUST Search - TANKS ARE SO OP!

Mavado V Noriega wrote:

Groza Tragediya wrote:

Well here i drive a tank regularely, every skill point has gone into HAVs. Literally. My tank currently runs me 1m as of last night. Thats just a standard tank (madruger) and if 3 people manage to launch their swarms in quick intervals my tank is done for. Not goin to say how much armor i have and the set up, thats classified, but with everything i have on i feel it should take far more then it currently does.

We move slow, and cant get into alot of areas infantry can. If we try to escape and we hit a wall we recieve a bit of damage and have to change direction and continue on. Which if you pilot an armor tank is not easy. Shield tanks do have it easier, but even they have issues as well.

Militia AV needs to be removed. I have 2m+ sp into tanks, yet a militia fit no sp required fit can destroy me. Yes, its true we do well when the enemy doesnt put pressure on us, but when infantry is swarming us were screwed. Most of the time even with adequate infantry support they get the shot off before they die.

1. ur armor is around 6500
2. if ur madrugar is properly fitted it can tank alot of dmg, it took 2 OBs to take out my jugg
3. yes we move slow...........way too slow
4. Im mixed on militia AV should hav lower dmg but not removed, good enough to force a militia tank back but not solo it
5. if Militia AV is destroying ur "well fit" madrugar ur doin something wrong....i literally sit my tank on objectives and LET the red dots shoot me to see how much punishment it can take

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knight of 6 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2013.01.31 20:45:00 - [1] - Quote i have evidence but have never driven a tank to verify it so to the tankers it might sound really dumb i can't take out a tank with weapons not meant to remove tanks! i want to rip apart tanks with my assault rifle and the militia swarm is under powered despite that it only takes 4 shots to bring down militia tanks and is FREE. tankers go like 25-0 all the time. i have never bought and fitted a tank so i don't know that is costs 3 matches earning and therefore takes three matches of not dieing to pay it back. we need more AV, god forbid it be difficult to take down a million ISK 50 tonne leviathan of the battlefield meant soak up fire like a sponge. we can't remove the starter fit militia swarm! buy one? but that costs ISK why should i have to skill into AV? tankers don't spend so much SP on their tanks that that they literally can't be effective as infantry. tanks should need their infantry as a crutch. this is how you sound to us. don't sound like this. drive a tank, realize just how difficult it is to have EVERYONE shooting at you, lose the tank, think "i respect them a lot more now"
DEADPOOL5241 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 233	Posted - 2013.01.31 20:52:00 - [2] - Quote Cough AV grenades... that is all you need. (runs before tank players post) (dang it to late..)
Vesta Ren ZionTCD Legacy Rising 33	Posted - 2013.01.31 20:53:00 - [3] - Quote Oh man, this a thousand times. I'd be a rich man if i had a dollar for every time someone who didn't drive a tank said "use your mobility and you need infantry support."
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2013.01.31 20:58:00 - [4] - Quote I don't drive tanks now but, I do understand you plight fighting against ignorant people. I hope they remove the free swarm launchers and I have already removed them from my fit selection. The only thing I have to say is the infantry should not be a crutch but there should be somewhat of a buddy system going on there. I know that I love my logi gunners when I need to land in my Grimsnes for healing and laying low for a min.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.01.31 20:59:00 - [5] - Quote Yo MR. Z where you at? Popcorn's getting cold and someone needs the details on purchasing your book. EDIT: nvm just read the OP, and unlike others in this thread recognized the sarcasm
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries 81	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:02:00 - [6] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: i have evidence but have never driven a tank to verify it so to the tankers it might sound really dumb i can't take out a tank with weapons not meant to remove tanks! i want to rip apart tanks with my assault rifle and the militia swarm is under powered despite that it only takes 4 shots to bring down militia tanks and is FREE. tankers go like 25-0 all the time. i have never bought and fitted a tank so i don't know that is costs 3 matches earning and therefore takes three matches of not dieing to pay it back. we need more AV, god forbid it be difficult to take down a million ISK 50 tonne leviathan of the battlefield meant soak up fire like a sponge. we can't remove the starter fit militia swarm! buy one? but that costs ISK why should i have to skill into AV? tankers don't spend so much SP on their tanks that that they literally can't be effective as infantry. tanks should need their infantry as a crutch. this is how you sound to us. don't sound like this. drive a tank, realize just how difficult it is to have EVERYONE shooting at you, lose the tank, think "i respect them a lot more now" Erm i takes allot of sp to run a good tank so you are plainly wrong , if you want to bust us deacent tankers put your sp where your mouth is , im sick of all you part time AV boys moaning that the malitia swarm cant blow up our tanks, I not only specilise in vehicles but my main speciality is heavy , with a forge gun , now thats how you take out tanks swarms are better for lavs and dropships, but youll need at least 2 or 3 of you with malitia swarms to take down my dropship same goes for my tanks. MAN up and stop biching about tanks being op there bloody tanks for christs sake would you rather we drove in to battle in little nissan micras ???? if you see a tank and cant kill it avoid it . I just read your post fully lol and yea ......... didnt see the last statment lol
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:03:00 - [7] - Quote Iv killed two tanks in one match while they rolling together using nothing but a compact nanohive and basic A/V nades tanks are not op the playerbase needs to learn how to kill them going 20 and 0 is nothing all that odd most people I roll with do that no matter what they use
knight of 6 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:08:00 - [8] - Quote edited in case you are unaware I AM A TANKER. it was sarcasm, i know you dump all your SP into your tanks, i do to.
BobThe843CakeMan BurgezzE.T.F 132	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:09:00 - [9] - Quote i spent all my sp into tanks i don't know what ur talking about. Lol
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:09:00 - [10] - Quote Hey guys, he's being sarcastic.

Groza Tragediya Opus Arcana Orion Empire 72	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:11:00 - [11] - Quote Well here i drive a tank regularely, every skill point has gone into HAVs. Literally. My tank currently runs me 1m as of last night. Thats just a standard tank (madruger) and if 3 people manage to launch their swarms in quick intervals my tank is done for. Not goin to say how much armor i have and the set up, thats classified, but with everything i have on i feel it should take far more then it currently does. We move slow, and cant get into alot of areas infantry can. If we try to escape and we hit a wall we recieve a bit of damage and have to change direction and continue on. Which if you pilot an armor tank is not easy. Shield tanks do have it easier, but even they have issues as well. Militia AV needs to be removed. I have 2m+ sp into tanks, yet a militia fit no sp required fit can destroy me. Yes, its true we do well when the enemy doesnt put pressure on us, but when infantry is swarming us were screwed. Most of the time even with adequate infantry support they get the shot off before they die.
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 25	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:12:00 - [12] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Iv killed two tanks in one match while they rolling together using nothing but a compact nanohive and basic A/V nades tanks are not op the playerbase needs to learn how to kill them going 20 and 0 is nothing all that odd most people I roll with do that no matter what they use At least today you had the assistance of my forge gun on one militia armor tank.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:12:00 - [13] - Quote psss, newberries, there's a spot that looks like gas tanks behind the tank. Throw some AV at it. Just sayin' that might be fun to try. :3
Pays 2 Win Shining Flame Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:13:00 - [14] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: i can't take out a tank with weapons not meant to remove tanks! i want to rip apart tanks with my assault rifle and the militia swarm is under powered despite that it only takes 4 shots to bring down militia tanks and is FREE. LOL. Dont know if this is a troll post or not but I will bite. I have destroyed 2 tanks solo in an ambush match with MDS and flux nades alone. LMFAO @ Tanks being OP.
BobThe843CakeMan BurgezzE.T.F 132	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:13:00 - [15] - Quote Groza Tragediya wrote: Well here i drive a tank regularely, every skill point has gone into HAVs. Literally. My tank currently runs me 1m as of last night. Thats just a standard tank (madruger) and if 3 people manage to launch their swarms in quick intervals my tank is done for. Not goin to say how much armor i have and the set up, thats classified, but with everything i have on i feel it should take far more then it currently does. We move slow, and cant get into alot of areas infantry can. If we try to escape and we hit a wall we recieve a bit of damage and have to change direction and continue on. Which if you pilot an armor tank is not easy. Shield tanks do have it easier, but even they have issues as well. Militia AV needs to be removed. I have 2m+ sp into tanks, yet a militia fit no sp required fit can destroy me. Yes, its true we do well when the enemy doesnt put pressure on us, but when infantry is swarming us were screwed. Most of the time even with adequate infantry support they get the shot off before they die. you 1 mil armor tank that sounds terribly weak. Lol have u invested into hardeners? if not it's must have.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:17:00 - [16] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Iv killed two tanks in one match while they rolling together using nothing but a compact nanohive and basic A/V nades tanks are not op the playerbase needs to learn how to kill them going 20 and 0 is nothing all that odd most people I roll with do that no matter what they use At least today you had the assistance of my forge gun on one militia armor tank. If that was on skyfire battary 5 point map thank you as u saved my bacon I was getting a little worried when the tanks worked out I was restocking my nades :-P
Dachande Anasazi IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:28:00 - [17] - Quote Most newberries don't realize that we have MLT gear and it IS useful. Not just gear to TRYOUT but the gear actually helps. For example I usually run logistics. I have spent A LOT of sp into logi. Obviously I cannot use a heavy suitt or a good AV weapon. However I have a MLT heavy with a MLT railgun setup. When I see a tank I go to the supply depot (or die trying to get there) and switch to this full MLT gear. Usually my squad mates do something similar. Together (and sometimes even doing it solo) we kill the tank. In conclusion: Do not write off MLT gear.
Vesta Ren ZionTCD Legacy Rising 33	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:30:00 - [18] - Quote Wow, this post shows how many people read the title of a post, look for something to quote, then imediatly reply without reading the entire thing. Way to look smart Dusties.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:31:00 - [19] - Quote Maybe you should put the satirical part in quotations, and maybe italicize it.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:34:00 - [20] - Quote Vesta Ren wrote: Wow, this post shows how many people read the title of a post, look for something to quote, then imediatly reply without reading the entire thing. Way to look smart Dusties. Dont try a troll your member of Zion u guys are very bad at it. Exception soda pop lol :-) if u want smart talk go to the feedback section

Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:34:00 - [21] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Maybe you should put the satirical part in quotations, and maybe italicize it. no no, this is good..
knight of 6 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:37:00 - [22] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Maybe you should put the satirical part in quotations, and maybe italicize it. that would defeat the purpose of the post i want them to think i'm the dumbest newberry on the planet right up until the end so they realize just how dumb they sound when they post it. even if i prevent only one flawed argument in the future it will be worth it.
Klivve Cussler Ransoms Incorporated 49	Posted - 2013.01.31 21:56:00 - [23] - Quote I heard a story once about the first Gulf war, where a US Abhrams tank shot through a sand dune and killed the Iraqi T-72 tank behind it. As long as I'm safe with a a mountain between me and the tank, I'm not complaining. Yes, tanks are powerful. They are hard to kill. They can flatten me in seconds, and I've only been able to hit one once with a militia swarm launcher (it didn't die, but I was triumphant in my running away as fast as possible). These are GOOD things. Dust, like Eve, doesn't want you to fight fair. It wants you to think. It wants you to draw the tanks into a corner so your newbie teammate can take the null cannons without dieing. It wants you to wait until the pilot jumps out to rep and gets sniped, so you can steal a tank. It wants you to draw the tanks close together so that you can drop an orbital strike on them with a militia scout dropsuit. Creative solutions are required when you are in a shotgun militia scout build and a tank rounds the corner. If you're smart, and lucky, you might live. If you're very smart, lucky, and well prepared, you might turn the tables on him. Does anyone know what happens when you order in a LAV to drop on a tank?
Landari Zeta Exit Wound Heavy Industries 16	Posted - 2013.01.31 22:03:00 - [24] - Quote Don't even get me started on this OP tank BS again. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=508778#post508778
TheBLAZZED VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 62	Posted - 2013.01.31 22:13:00 - [25] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: i have evidence but have never driven a tank to verify it so to the tankers it might sound really dumb i can't take out a tank with weapons not meant to remove tanks! i want to rip apart tanks with my assault rifle and the militia swarm is under powered despite that it only takes 4 shots to bring down militia tanks and is FREE. tankers go like 25-0 all the time. i have never bought and fitted a tank so i don't know that is costs 3 matches earning and therefore takes three matches of not dieing to pay it back. we need more AV, god forbid it be difficult to take down a million ISK 50 tonne leviathan of the battlefield meant soak up fire like a sponge. we can't remove the starter fit militia swarm! buy one? but that costs ISK why should i have to skill into AV? tankers don't spend so much SP on their tanks that that they literally can't be effective as infantry. tanks should need their infantry as a crutch. this is how you sound to us. don't sound like this. drive a tank, realize just how difficult it is to have EVERYONE shooting at you, lose the tank, think "i respect them a lot more now" +1 if anything tanks need a buff. You shouldn't be able to take 1 out solo with AV nades and a nanohive. Losing a mill in a pub fight is disheartening to say the least. Good post, loved the sarcasm.
James Thraxton The Exemplars 73	Posted - 2013.01.31 22:56:00 - [26] - Quote agreed, since they nerfed tanks a few days ago, any re-tarded redberry can kill a mil isk tank with militia. . . it should take coordination of multiple players, and now faction war is pointless for tankers, since dying is as easy inside a tank than out
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2013.01.31 23:01:00 - [27] - Quote Groza Tragediya wrote: Well here i drive a tank regularely, every skill point has gone into HAVs. Literally. My tank currently runs me 1m as of last night. Thats just a standard tank (madruger) and if 3 people manage to launch their swarms in quick intervals my tank is done for. Not goin to say how much armor i have and the set up, thats classified, but with everything i have on i feel it should take far more then it currently does. We move slow, and cant get into alot of areas infantry can. If we try to escape and we hit a wall we recieve a bit of damage and have to change direction and continue on. Which if you pilot an armor tank is not easy. Shield tanks do have it easier, but even they have issues as well. Militia AV needs to be removed. I have 2m+ sp into tanks, yet a militia fit no sp required fit can destroy me. Yes, its true we do well when the enemy doesnt put pressure on us, but when infantry is swarming us were screwed. Most of the time even with adequate infantry support they get the shot off before they die. 1. ur armor is around 6500 2. if ur madrugar is properly fitted it can tank alot of dmg, it took 2 OBs to take out my jugg 3. yes we move slow...........way too slow 4. Im mixed on militia AV should hav lower dmg but not removed, good enough to force a militia tank back but not solo it 5. if Militia AV is destroying ur "well fit" madrugar ur doin something wrong....i literally sit my tank on objectives and LET the red dots shoot me to see how much punishment it can take
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2013.01.31 23:35:00 - [28] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: 5. if Militia AV is destroying ur "well fit" madrugar ur doin something wrong.... Edit* and why in the heck are people driving million ISK plus tanks in Instant Battle pub matches?
Stinker Butt Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 103	Posted - 2013.02.01 01:00:00 - [29] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Vesta Ren wrote: Wow, this post shows how many people read the title of a post, look for something to quote, then imediatly reply without reading the entire thing. Way to look smart Dusties. Dont try a troll your member of Zion u guys are very bad at it. Exception soda pop lol :-) if u want smart talk go to the feedback section this makes me laugh. but on topic, I missed the sarcasm initially and was a little confused by the post. :) I like tanks the way they are. I only take out the smaller ones solo, but with a good partner, even the big tanks go down. People need to learn tactics beyond coming to the forums and crying for nerfs. There are some really good tank drivers out there that will always be hard to kill. Maybe another week before I have prototype AV nades. I hope there's no hard feelings from my tank driving friends.
BobThe843CakeMan BurgezzE.T.F 132	Posted - 2013.02.01 01:16:00 - [30] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Groza Tragediya wrote: Well here i drive a tank regularely, every skill point has gone into HAVs. Literally. My tank currently runs me 1m as of last night. Thats just a standard tank (madruger) and if 3 people manage to launch their swarms in quick intervals my tank is done for. Not goin to say how much armor i have and the set up, thats classified, but with everything i have on i feel it should take far more then it currently does. We move slow, and cant get into alot of areas infantry can. If we try to escape and we hit a wall we recieve a bit of damage and have to change direction and continue on. Which if you pilot an armor tank is not easy. Shield tanks do have it easier, but even they have issues as well. Militia AV needs to be removed. I have 2m+ sp into tanks, yet a militia fit no sp required fit can destroy me. Yes, its true we do well when the enemy doesnt put pressure on us, but when infantry is swarming us were screwed. Most of the time even with adequate infantry support they get the shot off before they die. 1. ur armor is around 6500 2. if ur madrugar is properly fitted it can tank alot of dmg, it took 2 OBs to take out my jugg 3. yes we move slow...........way too slow 4. Im mixed on militia AV should hav lower dmg but not removed, good enough to force a militia tank back but not solo it 5. if Militia AV is destroying ur "well fit" madrugar ur doin something wrong....i literally sit my tank on objectives and LET the red dots shoot me to see how much punishment it can take Don't give away our secrets. SHHHH



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