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Blue DeVille
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.31 15:50:00 -
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until we get the plasma launcher, they will continue to dominate the battlefield... Please give us the plasma launcher sooner rather than later, because Shield HAVs are currently unbalanced in regards to defeating them. Sure there are flux grenades... but that's about it.
For armor tanks you have swarms AND AV grenades... and orbitals.
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Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
215
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Posted - 2013.01.31 15:54:00 -
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Blue DeVille wrote:until we get the plasma launcher, they will continue to dominate the battlefield... Please give us the plasma launcher sooner rather than later, because Shield HAVs are currently unbalanced in regards to defeating them. Sure there are flux grenades... but that's about it.
For armor tanks you have swarms AND AV grenades... and orbitals.
Clearly you've never come face to face with an assualt or breach FG. |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
264
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Posted - 2013.01.31 15:55:00 -
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The forge gun also makes short work of shield tanks. And anything else for that matter. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
186
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Posted - 2013.01.31 15:58:00 -
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I haven't seen a shield tank yet this build that didn't drop quick to a volley of flux followed by swarms from a squad mate. It's all about the set up, if the tank driver does not know there are swarms in the vicinity before you flux his shields off, you can almost always catch him with his pants down.
Have yet to see a scary shield tank though there are a few madrugars around that can be hard to pin and catch with their modules in cool down some people have to be running double reppers it seems. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
183
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:02:00 -
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This alerts me to yet another fit variation i need. An Shield AV fit and an Armor AV fit. I was generally just having AV grenades and swarm launcher. |
fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:03:00 -
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2 flux grenades and then a stiff salmon will take down a shield tank pretty quickly, as well. |
Icy TIG3R
Universal Allies Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:03:00 -
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You're so quick to call something OP while using the starter fit. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:04:00 -
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OP is a moron when he only uses swarm launchers. And i think he only uses the starter fit for that purpose. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:06:00 -
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Blue DeVille wrote:until we get the plasma launcher, they will continue to dominate the battlefield... Please give us the plasma launcher sooner rather than later, because Shield HAVs are currently unbalanced in regards to defeating them. Sure there are flux grenades... but that's about it.
For armor tanks you have swarms AND AV grenades... and orbitals.
This kid is right! They need an AV weapon that has extra efficiency towards shields, this current 3 av weapons, 2 are Anti-armor and 1 does equal damage to both shield and armor(forge gun). Flux don't count cause they can't kill on their own, needs to be paired with an actually av weapon. |
Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:14:00 -
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Blue DeVille wrote:until we get the plasma launcher, they will continue to dominate the battlefield... Please give us the plasma launcher sooner rather than later, because Shield HAVs are currently unbalanced in regards to defeating them. Sure there are flux grenades... but that's about it.
For armor tanks you have swarms AND AV grenades... and orbitals.
Forge guns normally work nicely. |
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
175
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:15:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:The forge gun also makes short work of shield tanks. And anything else for that matter.
This. Wait untill we see some dedicated AV forge gunners. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:15:00 -
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You forget that shield tanks have usually less overall HP then their armor counterpart. |
Cosorvin
DUST University
Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:15:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:OP is a moron when he only uses swarm launchers. And i think he only uses the starter fit for that purpose.
Stop trolling noob. |
Vesta Ren
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
33
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:25:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Val'herik Dorn wrote:The forge gun also makes short work of shield tanks. And anything else for that matter. This. Wait untill we see some dedicated AV forge gunners.
Oh great, another thing to make tanks more useless... Honestly the state of vehicle warfare is so messed up right now when a single player with AV grenades can kill a tank with little to no risk. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
197
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:29:00 -
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My heavy can happily munch through a couple of tanks... shield or armor, i dont mind |
Blue DeVille
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
25
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:40:00 -
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Thanks for the defense, Zitro and Cosorvin.
While forge guns do some great damage to tanks regardless of how they tank themselves, I've been in matches where there were no heavies on my team to even carry forge guns. (it's rare, but it apparently happens). The plasma launcher is a light, shoulder fired weapon, similar to the swarm, except that it doesn't lock and track. And it's a dedicated shield AV weapon. Albeit, it could be used to removed someone's torso from their arms/legs.
I spec and have been spec'ing into assault... later or if i see a need to in the mean time, i will spec into things like swarms and what-not. But for the the time being, I am still skilling into my basic play style. Excuse me, if you think that I've had the time to earn enough SP to skill into anything other than what I have been.
Also the title of this post is: "Shield tanks are not OP, but"
The purpose for this post is because of a few games yesterday where my team as a whole got wrecked by shield tanks, but not just one (which I think could have been handled), but 2 or more shield tanks on the field of battle at the same time... It makes us ground-pounders have to work that much harder with gear or equipment we may not have. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:41:00 -
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only thing I am scared about from shield tankers... their damn speed. |
Blue DeVille
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
25
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Posted - 2013.01.31 17:23:00 -
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they are pretty damned fast. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.31 17:44:00 -
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Use a damn MILITIA HEAVY WITH A MILITIA FORGE GUN!!
Tanks are weak enough as it is, and remember, you can do some damage with Swarms. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.31 17:46:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Use a damn MILITIA HEAVY WITH A MILITIA FORGE GUN!!
Tanks are weak enough as it is, and remember, you can do some damage with Swarms.
Might want to read the post... Well if you can read |
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Blue DeVille
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
25
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Posted - 2013.01.31 18:05:00 -
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Mr. Zitro... sounds like you need to send some of your shield tank guys (you know who I am referring to... going 50/0) his way to test out his theories. |
Dagon Cthulhu Clone
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.01.31 18:23:00 -
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laser tanks will likely be the direct counter to shield tanks, chop chop ccp |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2013.01.31 18:33:00 -
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How come people keep spamming the "use Forge Guns" argument when that's an anti-EVERYTHING weapon with no special anti-shield properties, and nobody mentions that LASER RIFLES RIP NICE BIG CHUNKS OUT OF SHIELD TANKS.
Seriously? They aren't a good weapon to try and SOLO a shield tank with, but a couple of them will hurt pretty bad.
Flux + Mass Driver is a brutal combo. So is Laser Rifle + AV Grenade. |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
88
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Posted - 2013.01.31 18:41:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:How come people keep spamming the "use Forge Guns" argument when that's an anti-EVERYTHING weapon with no special anti-shield properties, and nobody mentions that LASER RIFLES RIP NICE BIG CHUNKS OUT OF SHIELD TANKS.
Don't forge-guns have added damage to shields compared to armor ? would explain the "use Forge Guns" argument showing up. |
YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
133
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:08:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:You're so quick to call something OP while using the starter fit.
+1 LOL i say nerf everthing and start over.  OMG when is the OP crap gonna stop. answer never i guess.
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Vane Arcadia
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
115
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:10:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:The forge gun also makes short work of shield tanks. And anything else for that matter.
proximity mines also - there are lots of ways to kill these
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Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:11:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Use a damn MILITIA HEAVY WITH A MILITIA FORGE GUN!!
Tanks are weak enough as it is, and remember, you can do some damage with Swarms. Might want to read the post... Well if you can read
Stfu tank scrub. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:33:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:How come people keep spamming the "use Forge Guns" argument when that's an anti-EVERYTHING weapon with no special anti-shield properties, and nobody mentions that LASER RIFLES RIP NICE BIG CHUNKS OUT OF SHIELD TANKS. Don't forge-guns have added damage to shields compared to armor ? would explain the "use Forge Guns" argument showing up.
Forge does equal damage to both shield and armor 100%. While AV grenades and swarms do extra damage versus armor(130-140%) and do less versus shields(69-75%) that's why there is a need for a light weapon that does well against shields and does less against armor. CCP stop with the armor hate |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:35:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Use a damn MILITIA HEAVY WITH A MILITIA FORGE GUN!!
Tanks are weak enough as it is, and remember, you can do some damage with Swarms. Might want to read the post... Well if you can read Stfu tank scrub.
Did I hit a nerve? Lmao by tank scrub do you mean garbage man? If so I do take out the trashy scrubs like you  |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:43:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:G Torq wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:How come people keep spamming the "use Forge Guns" argument when that's an anti-EVERYTHING weapon with no special anti-shield properties, and nobody mentions that LASER RIFLES RIP NICE BIG CHUNKS OUT OF SHIELD TANKS. Don't forge-guns have added damage to shields compared to armor ? would explain the "use Forge Guns" argument showing up. Forge does equal damage to both shield and armor 100%. While AV grenades and swarms do extra damage versus armor(130-140%) and do less versus shields(69-75%) that's why there is a need for a light weapon that does well against shields and does less against armor. CCP stop with the armor hate
Pretty much. I think a good solution to even it up a bit would be a weapon like the swarm launcher that did comparable damage to shields, just as the swarm does to armor (Perhaps Plasma Cannon). Also the fact that AV Grenades, Proximity Mines, and Remote Explosives are ALL explosive type damage, favors AV vs Armor way too much. We need Flux versions of these which are specifically designed to take out shields, but also include enough of a secondary damage type so that they can still finish shield tanks off with whatever limited armor they have left.
I feel this would lead to some interesting fittings and even the playing field a bit between shields and armor.
Also, when do we get Siege Modules? |
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