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Fenix878 Firebird
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.30 21:51:00 -
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I have Circuitry trained to lvl 5.
While in a Heavy Type-I suit, which has a base CPU of 180, and nothing else fitted to the suit. My total CPU available it 224.
180 * 1.25 ( Circuitry gives a 5% boost per level), I would expect to have 225 CPU. So the suit is missing 1 CPU level. |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama
Endless Renaissance
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Posted - 2013.01.30 23:39:00 -
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I seem to recall that EVE math was a little different than normal, i.e.- 5% per level was compounded in some fashion, rather than a straight 5 levels * 5% = 25%.
It's been awhile since I've delved deeply into bonuses, but I seem to remember the math being weird in EVE. |
Perseus Gallento II
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.31 12:56:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:I seem to recall that EVE math was a little different than normal, i.e.- 5% per level was compounded in some fashion, rather than a straight 5 levels * 5% = 25%.
It's been awhile since I've delved deeply into bonuses, but I seem to remember the math being weird in EVE.
No if they were compounding, the result would be 180 * 1.05^5 = 229.7. And you can't explain it by saying they are rounding down because 5% of 180 is 9.0000 and 5*9.0000 = 45.0000. 180 + 45.0000 = 225.0000.
Cheers,
PG
By the way, I am not a dev. I selected my alt last night and played a few rounds. Now I have the DUST Dev Badge "Bug". At least from my point of view. |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.31 21:26:00 -
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Have you tried doing the math with the bonus being applied iteratively with rounding each time? As seen here. |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.31 22:34:00 -
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Could be it's always rounded, even if there are no fractions.
Checked both power and CPU on all the suits I can wear. When the resulting value contained fractions the value was correct (rounded down).
Heavy skinweave CPU I got 224 instead of 225 (from 180 with 25% bonus). This was however the only value where applying my skills resulted in a whole number so I can't really tell if they always reduce them by 1. |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.31 22:41:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:Could be it's always rounded, even if there are no fractions.
Checked both power and CPU on all the suits I can wear. When the resulting value contained fractions the value was correct (rounded down).
Heavy skinweave CPU I got 224 instead of 225 (from 180 with 25% bonus). This was however the only value where applying my skills resulted in a whole number so I can't really tell if they always reduce them by 1.
lol, if i'd actually done the math at the time I'd have seen it's not rounding each time like I thought it might. If it were it would end up at 227. So yeah, looks like it's having issues with whole numbers. |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.01.31 23:46:00 -
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Think integer math with all fractions rounded down or truncated if that is how you prefer to think of it.
Funny when you consider all the SIMD sub processors lying about not doing much during the Fitting menu. |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.31 23:53:00 -
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I brought up this issue just yesterday when I found that two other skills had a missing unit in them. This could be happening with all skills and should be looked into.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=54927&find=unread |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:25:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Think integer math with all fractions rounded down or truncated if that is how you prefer to think of it.
The question is not how fractions are treated. If value + skill effect equals a whole number it seems that gets "rounded" down too so you get one point less than you'd expect.
Reimus Klinsman wrote:I brought up this issue just yesterday when I found that two other skills had a missing unit in them. This could be happening with all skills and should be looked into.
Might be intentional, can't imagine how anyone could accidentally create such a feature. (I mean, unless they wanted non-"standard" behaviour they could just have used a cast or some built in round func/method, hard to mess that up ;)). |
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