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Squally 160
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:12:00 -
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Id rather it be like stations on eve. Your stuff is just locked inside until you can get standing back to dock. So basically, they tske over your stockpile A. You have to reclaim that stockpile to get access to it again |
Squally 160
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:54:00 -
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If we go the steal it all route, i want to be able to dump stront into my warehouse to put it into a full lockdown, so owners have time to organize a defenses. This way you dont lose all kinds of stuff becaus of a night raid. This way too, they attackers firs assault, deal with any defenders, "breach" the warehouse, and it goes into stront lockdown. From there, the warehouse owners now must assault and clear out the would be crooks before the warehouse reopens. Could be interesting |
Squally 160
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:17:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:Squally 160 wrote:If we go the steal it all route, i want to be able to dump stront into my warehouse to put it into a full lockdown, so owners have time to organize a defenses. This way you dont lose all kinds of stuff becaus of a night raid. This way too, they attackers firs assault, deal with any defenders, "breach" the warehouse, and it goes into stront lockdown. From there, the warehouse owners now must assault and clear out the would be crooks before the warehouse reopens. Could be interesting because of you mention a night raid, this mode would also take time dedication and much longer than a normal match. 1-2 hours, at least. the main requirement is cross platform organization/coordination in order to execute this theft, not just some pick up squad or lone wolf from local. which would also set off an alarm somehow in EVE space that the merc armory is under attack, perhaps presenting EVE pilots a new mode where they are less restricted to launch an orbital..? So in effect, the hack on the storage point could set off 2 alarms, one dust side and one eve side, so the thieves better have protection in space since the restriction on orbitals is lifted and pilots perhaps could nuke planet at will. I might have gone a little overboard here, but the main line is: corp theft is srs bsns and should be tragically difficult to execute yet possible with enough coordination and support, which all replies have point point to.
Fully agree with that. It should alert pilots a merc drop is in progress, and eve side the mercs dripships need to be defended while the raid akes place, promoting coordination on both fronts. And, allowing evepilot merc corps a chance to participate. As both defense and offense. As well, if this is the case, if a warehouse goes into full blown lockdown, it cannot be accesed by the owners during that time. So there is a real threat to losing things rather than just "oh, its in lockdown? We have 8 hours left to jump everything out dont worry." |
Squally 160
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:24:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Squally 160 wrote:If we go the steal it all route, i want to be able to dump stront into my warehouse to put it into a full lockdown, so owners have time to organize a defenses. This way you dont lose all kinds of stuff becaus of a night raid. This way too, they attackers firs assault, deal with any defenders, "breach" the warehouse, and it goes into stront lockdown. From there, the warehouse owners now must assault and clear out the would be crooks before the warehouse reopens. Could be interesting but to prevent the attackers fom getting screwed over you would have to be able to give them some way out, say a grab it and run where they lose some of the kit they've captured but can still get the rest out. that leaves the attackers with a "grab and handful and improve our chances of getting it out" method or a "go for broke, lets grab everything and risk the major confrontation" one.
I see a system like that being abused though. Why risk a snatch all one day, when you can take 10% of a corps assets during thier off hours whenever you want? Sure, they can hire mercs, but its not realistic to expect every corp to have full time 23/7 defense they can rely on. |
Squally 160
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:31:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Squally 160 wrote:
Fully agree with that. It should alert pilots a merc drop is in progress, and eve side the mercs dripships need to be defended while the raid akes place, promoting coordination on both fronts. And, allowing evepilot merc corps a chance to participate. As both defense and offense. As well, if this is the case, if a warehouse goes into full blown lockdown, it cannot be accesed by the owners during that time. So there is a real threat to losing things rather than just "oh, its in lockdown? We have 8 hours left to jump everything out dont worry."
but you're going to need to give the eve side guys some valuable incentive to do this beyond giving the dust guys a firefight and stealing (by eve standards) a relatively cheap amount of kit. if you made it so you had blueprints or resources needed to develop planetary districts(which will affect both eve and dusk it might provide some incentive for the eve players to involved
There is plenty of incentive for eve guys. I dont see this being a high sec feature, i would expect this to be in nullsec, where your stockpiles help influence sov in system for blue alliances, and posibly provide a location for eve side to dock/refit until cleared out. I do agree though, eve side should have a way to build upon and improve the function of any stockpiles under their sov. Perhaps through a PI type system. As well, once there is more integration of the games, eve corps would want to ensure thier dustbunnys can be used effectively, not have thier kits stolen weekly. |
Squally 160
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Posted - 2013.01.30 00:14:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Question: Are these things physical assets, or just digital instruction sets with DRM to limit the number if copies made?
From what I understand the majority is the latter with a smattering of the former for salvage and the suit you last had on (though a SD seems to have the capability of reversing the process),
If that's the case you could carry your entire "inventory" in your pocket.
Right now, I would say each "thing" is actually a one-run BPC (blueprint copy) you purchase. That you can use at anytime on any MCC you join up with.
This explains why you always have access to them and why when your MCC is blown to bits, you keep the items you didnt use.
In the future, i could see them turning more into eve-like assets, that you must keep track of and manage and that are real items with a single use.
I would say this should be a corp wars feature.
you would pre-load your MCC with the gear you expect to use that fight, and thats it. If your MCC gets blowed up, well, there goes the gear you brought. If you survive, hey, all your gear on the MCC, still there, and now its put back into your warehouse.
This would increase EvE side interaction. Ah crap, the fighting is all over in Amarr space now? better hire a freighter to move some of my kit over there instead of rebuying local gear. |
Squally 160
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Posted - 2013.01.30 03:35:00 -
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I could see that working for a Black Ops type drop. Perhaps a new T2 Battlecruiser, the Black Ops dropship.
Only holds 6-10 clones, and once they are gone, you have to go and resupply more. But, it doesnt trigger an alarm until 10-15 minutes after the first clone drops in. Or a merc triggers an alarm on the ground by doing something dumb :D |
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