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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 19:32:00 -
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 So there's a massive amount of back story in the fictional universe in which EVE Online and Dust 514 take place in. This is available at http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Portal:EVE_Fiction.
 
 This post is an attempt at making a TL;DR version for those of you who want to understand the world you're playing in, but don't want to dig deep into the role playing universe. It is divided into two sections. First is a short background about the stuff you as a player may want to know, but your character would have no way of knowing. The second is all the stuff that your character would reasonably know about the world around him or her.
 
 Stuff your character has no way of knowing
 The people of earth discover interstellar travel and all sorts of cool stuff, and settle all over the place. In AD 7987 a wormhole is discovered that leads to a place in some other galaxy, they call the place New Eden. Two years later they begin colonizing the place through this huge stargate they build on the wormhole. People split into all manner of groups in New Eden and colonize star systems by building "local" stargates. One day, the wormhole collapses. Shipments of supplies etc stop and many of the colonies perish. Society in New Eden sort of goes Dark Ages. Bunches of time passes and new societies are formed, having no contact with each other. In the turmoil, all this history is lost.
 More here.
 
 The world history your character would know
 People in New Eden (re)discover space travel. They find a bunch of stargates built centuries ago and get all confused. They find the remnants of an ancient stargate with the letters "EVE" written on it. These are Amarr (they like God and stuff), Gallente/Caldari (these were from the same solar system) and Minmatar (tribals). The Amarrians figure that Minmatar make awesome slaves and enslave the entire race. The Minmatar aren't super happy about that and eventually rebel. Gallenteans like rights and democracy and presumably are all hippies. The Caldari like corporations and doing what you're told. The Gallente and Caldari split up and fight each other. The Gallenteans don't like the Amarr because of the whole slavery thing. The Caldari like the Amarr because the Amarr don't like the Gallenteans.
 
 There's also a fifth race known as Jovians but anything you hear about them is a lie or rumor.
 
 More about the states here.
 More about history after the Dark Ages here.
 
 These states amass vast empires in space, controlling many solar systems and countless planets. The area made up by the states is known as "High sec". If a spaceship pilot commits a crime in high sec space, the cops will blow up his spaceship.
 
 The border lands of high sec are called low sec, and are sort of like the wild west. Some of the low sec regions are engulfed in territorial wars between the states. Those wars are known as FW or "Factional Warfare". Other areas are just hives of scum and villainy. If a spaceship pilot commits a crime in low sec space, the cops will put stickers on his spaceship that let people know that pilot has been very naughty indeed. Low sec space and high sec space are usually both included in the collective term "Empire space", although this is sometimes used to describe high sec only.
 
 Outside of Empire, there is nullsec space, also known as 0.0 space. Some areas of nullsec are controlled by non-player factions, but most are controlled by groups of spaceship pilots. They make the rules in nullsec. There are no crimes in nullsec according to the police. You could blast through the shields and armor of an unarmed freighter, tell him you'll let him go if he gives you 50 million ISK and sings you a Christmas song with all the references to "Christmas" changed to "Mittens", take the money, post a recording of the song on the forums, shoot the ship anyway, blow up his escape pod and use his frozen corpse as a hangar decoration, and nobody would even bat an eye.
 
 More on non-player factions here.
 
 Pod pilots
 So the one good thing to come out of Jovian space is the pod. It's basically an egg with goo inside that a pilot can float in. He can control an entire spaceship through a hose connected to his head. This replaces the entire bridge crew of a starship. Starships are still fricking huge and lots of people work aboard them. If the ship explodes, all those people die. The pilot just ejects with his pod though. If his pod explodes, his consciousness is downloaded into a waiting medical clone, instantly. Sucks to be the crew, I guess.
 
 One effect of being immortal and flying around in ships the size of cities is that pod pilots are total dicks. Life is cheap or free and your problems mean nothing to them. This has made them both feared and revered by the people who don't spend their lives in eggs filled with goo. Think of them as rock stars who are really spoiled. But with lasers.
 
 OK that about sums it up I think. There's tons more to be found at the fiction portal if you want to keep reading.
 
 Oh, I almost forgot:
 TL;DR
 Amarr like God and lasers, enslaved Minmatar and don't like Gallente.
 Caldari like corporations and order, hate the Gallente and don't like Minmatar.
 Gallente like freedom and vegetables, hate the Caldari and don't like the Amarr.
 Minmatar like drums and spears, hate the Amarr and don't like the Caldari.
 All spaceship pilots are assholes.
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        |  Ferria Doffenshertz
 Royal Uhlans
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 19:47:00 -
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 Not all Pod Pilots are dicks, just most of them.
 
 You skipped over alot of stuff, like the jove kicked the crap out of the amarr with as much effort as you would use to take out the trash.
 
 This allowed the Minmitar to rebel.
 
 The cops as you call them are Concord, and pertty much have the power to do anything, until the minmitar brought in a titan and blew the Main concord station to scrap.
 
 These are all important bits that make the peices fit together
 
 Also Concord doesn't have any authority on planets, so they can do nothing to Bunnies.
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        |  Knarf Black
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 19:52:00 -
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 One thing I've always wondered: if the capsuleers are cybernetic clone bodies floating in goo pods, why do they all have pictures of themselves wearing sunglasses and/or fancy hair? When exactly are they out walking around?
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        |  Drado Arona
 Kirkinen Risk Control
 Caldari State
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 19:55:00 -
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 Knarf Black wrote:One thing I've always wondered: if the capsuleers are cybernetic clone bodies floating in goo pods, why do they all have pictures of themselves wearing sunglasses and/or fancy hair? When exactly are they out walking around? when we dock.
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        |  Ferria Doffenshertz
 Royal Uhlans
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 19:55:00 -
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 Concord can track everything you do in knownspace, most people don't like that, so we get out on occasion, or go to wormhole space, which is technicly illegal
 
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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 19:56:00 -
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 Ferria Doffenshertz wrote:Not all Pod Pilots are dicks, just most of them.
 You skipped over alot of stuff, like the jove kicked the crap out of the amarr with as much effort as you would use to take out the trash.
 
 This allowed the Minmitar to rebel.
 
 The cops as you call them are Concord, and pertty much have the power to do anything, until the minmitar brought in a titan and blew the Main concord station to scrap.
 
 These are all important bits that make the peices fit together
 
 Also Concord doesn't have any authority on planets, so they can do nothing to Bunnies.
 
 Yes, the idea of making a quick guide is to skip over a lot of stuff...
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        |  Heinz Doofenshertz
 BetaMax.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 19:58:00 -
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 yeah well don't skip the important parts
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        |  Vrain Matari
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 19:59:00 -
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 Great job dude. You nailed it in one post. +1.
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        |  Drado Arona
 Kirkinen Risk Control
 Caldari State
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 20:00:00 -
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 Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:yeah well don't skip the important parts Define important or write your own post instead of complaining.
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        |  Sontie
 VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 20:02:00 -
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 Thank you
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        |  Severus Smith
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 20:09:00 -
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 Knarf Black wrote:There's 2 explanations.One thing I've always wondered: if the capsuleers are cybernetic clone bodies floating in goo pods, why do they all have pictures of themselves wearing sunglasses and/or fancy hair? When exactly are they out walking around? 
 1. The image you see is the pod pilots "Avatar" - basically the image they pick to depict themselves. Much like how we all pick images to depict ourselves on forums or social media.
 
 2. Pilots can dock and walk around on stations. Thought this never made much sense to me. If I were an Immortal pilot why would leave my POD, which allows me to be cloned, to sleep in a crappy bed? Though I guess with the new DUST cloning technology you could explain it as they have clone "avatars" that they enter to walk around on a station. So there's still a body sitting in the POD, it is just void of consciousness...
 
 And yes, not all POD pilots are dicks, but most are.
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        |  Beren Hurin
 OMNI Endeavors
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 20:55:00 -
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 What about the pirates, and the sleepers and drones, and The Others? So much to learn!
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 20:59:00 -
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 Gullegubben wrote:[i]So there
 There's also a fifth race known as Jovians but anything you hear about them is a lie or rumor.
 
 
 
 
 
 this made me laugh
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:01:00 -
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 you sir, are one of the funniest people in dust.
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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
 32
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:01:00 -
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 Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:yeah well don't skip the important parts 
 I don't think I did.
 
 I personally find this part of the story fascinating, and have visited the battlegrounds of Vak'Atioth personally to take in the sense of history. However, in the grand scheme of things it's just the Amarr naval forces having their asses handed to them, and not something that they would boast about. This is evidenced by the treatment of those involved on the field. The result of the battle, on a universal scale, were basically nil, except for the chances it provided for the Minmatar Rebellion to flourish. This was an inevitable course for history, as any disruption in the naval capacity of the Amarr Empire would have yielded the same result, just on a different day.
 
 Make a case for why the battle of Vak'Atioth would be universally important or at least common knowledge to all the people of New Eden, and maybe I'll include it.
 
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:07:00 -
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 due to your strory, i take it you're caldari too?
 
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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
 32
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:09:00 -
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 General Tiberius1 wrote:due to your strory, i take it you're caldari too?
 
 Well, yes, at least in Dust 514. But what made you think that? I tried to be as neutral as possible, did I fail?
 
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        |  Heinz Doofenshertz
 BetaMax.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:16:00 -
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 flooding communications networks with propaganda proclaiming their people the chosen of God, rightful owners of the Jovian people.
 
 second half of the third sentence, everyone knew what they were doing, everyone knew they got spanked. BTW that story has been changed from it's original statement, there were very very few Jovian ships on the field, they didn't lose anything.
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:36:00 -
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 http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=15-06-10
 
 i want to be able to do this. also, if the minmatar blew up concord, why are they still such a pain in my ass?
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        |  Heinz Doofenshertz
 BetaMax.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:40:00 -
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 sadly the disruption was temporary, as the other concord stations need time to take over the duties the main station usually did. since then the comunication duties have been spread accross the network, and thus a similar disruption would be very hard to do with out a massive coradinated strike in at least 5 systems
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:50:00 -
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 http://community.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=15-06-10
 
 this would be fun, i want to do this
  
 also, if concord got blown up, why are they still such a pain in my ass?
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        |  Heinz Doofenshertz
 BetaMax.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:51:00 -
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 dude you posted that, and I told you.
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:52:00 -
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 Gullegubben wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:due to your strory, i take it you're caldari too?
 Well, yes, at least in Dust 514. But what made you think that? I tried to be as neutral as possible, did I fail? 
 your calling of the gallenties as being hippies
  
 tottally agree
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:53:00 -
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 Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:sadly the disruption was temporary, as the other concord stations need time to take over the duties the main station usually did. since then the comunication duties have been spread accross the network, and thus a similar disruption would be very hard to do with out a massive coradinated strike in at least 5 systems 
 well darn
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:53:00 -
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 Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:dude you posted that, and I told you. 
 lost internet connection, didnt know if it got through, sorry
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        |  Heinz Doofenshertz
 BetaMax.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 21:58:00 -
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 :P , of course, you can take heart in the fact that your exsistance as a dust bunny really really pisses off concord, and by their own rules, they can't touch us.
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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 22:00:00 -
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 General Tiberius1 wrote:your calling of the gallenties as being hippies   tottally agree 
 I don't pass judgement. To some, this could be a compliment. Obviously, to the Caldari, it's not.
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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.29 23:03:00 -
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 Knarf Black wrote:One thing I've always wondered: if the capsuleers are cybernetic clone bodies floating in goo pods, why do they all have pictures of themselves wearing sunglasses and/or fancy hair? When exactly are they out walking around? 
 They walk around outside their capsules when they want to tease you about sitting in couches. See, told you pod pilots were dicks...
 
 Picture of Gullegumman sitting in couch...
 
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.30 01:46:00 -
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 sure sounded like a biased opinion to me ;)
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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.30 02:55:00 -
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 General Tiberius1 wrote:sure sounded like a biased opinion to me ;) 
 Well, I was trying to view each culture from the outside, as each is viewed by the others.
 
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        |  Templar Eight
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.30 03:10:00 -
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 Beren Hurin wrote:What about the pirates, and the sleepers and drones, and The Others? So much to learn! 
 
 
 
 Major Spoiler alert for those that haven't read Templar One yet in regards to Sleepers.
 
 The Sleepers are really something else. Alot of the lore was explained in the latest novel Templar One. Think of them as Dark Jove(Kinda). Just how Khanid are Dark Amarrain. Just a faction on there own. It's been awhile since I read the book but I'll take a stab at what Sleepers are. From what I remember they created most of the star gates and tech the Jovian's are currently using. They were the one's that inhabited Curse region and the Sleepers were the ones that created that virus that almost destroyed the Jove race.
 
 Now the remainder of Jove escaped Curse and made there way to the now occupied Jove space while a faction within "The Sleepers" exiled themselves to wormhole space. Once they settled, The Sleepers created a world within a dream (Very similar concept to The Matrix) Majority of the population went into status pods ((((( Refer to start of trailer at 0.57 when the 3 Caldari men find that pod http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIwekfp3p5Q ))))). While the rest plot to destroy. Currently the mighty Empress Jamyl Sarum I has a Sleeper insider her conciseness. If all the houses of Amarr were to find this out. The Empress would be trailed as a heretic and she and the Sarum family would be hunting sport for the entire Amarr empire.
 
 The Sleepers you encounter in wormhole space are only drone guardians protecting their actual masters that are asleep. All Dust players are a result of Sleeper tech. (refer back to trailer I linked) Lucky for us though, its not the prototype tech that was discused in the noval other wise we would all be "sleeper" Sleeper agents waiting for them to delete our conciseness and take control of our body =P
 
 
 If I stated anything incorrect please tell me. I am just going of memory here =)
 
 When you speak pirates, do you mean the pirates npc that we encounter? Because if you are asking about them, where do I begin. They all have history. I could right up little bits of facts about them as I am very familiar with them all. But I don't want to write up a wall of text hahha =P
 
 
 
 As for the Drones... I'm going to guess that a majority of the drones or Rogue Drones I should say are a result from after the Gallente/Caldri wars. There was an interesting theory that EvE players that also forget their drones and don't go back to pick them up are another result to the Rogue Drones numbers.
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        |  Ten-Sidhe
 Osmon Surveillance
 Caldari State
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.30 03:41:00 -
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 Coaches.. eh, over rated. They can tease when their quarter's has doors that open.
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        |  General Tiberius1
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.30 03:59:00 -
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 Templar Eight wrote:[quote=Beren Hurin]
 
 As for the Drones... I'm going to guess that a majority of the drones or Rogue Drones I should say are a result from after the Gallente/Caldri wars. There was an interesting theory that EvE players that also forget their drones and don't go back to pick them up are another result to the Rogue Drones numbers.
 
 
 woops, hehe. one of the guilty party here, do missions all the time that provide more drones, never bother to scoop mine back up.
 
 bad capsuleer, bad!
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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.30 18:09:00 -
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 Beren Hurin wrote:What about the pirates, and the sleepers and drones, and The Others? So much to learn! 
 I agree, and that's why I included links to the fiction portal. New Eden is an incredibly complex and multi layered place. There's no way to cover everything in one post, so I wanted to cover the things that every single person would know just from living there.
 
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        |  XANDER KAG
 Crimson Wings Brigade
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 17:53:00 -
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 Thank you for this I appreciate a little story in my games.
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        |  Fox Gaden
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 18:09:00 -
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 Severus Smith wrote:2. Pilots can dock and walk around on stations. Thought this never made much sense to me. If I were an Immortal pilot why would leave my POD, which allows me to be cloned, to sleep in a crappy bed?  I can think of one reason I would want to leave my POD to spend time in bed.
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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
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      | Posted - 2013.02.03 02:08:00 -
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 XANDER KAG wrote:Thank you for this I appreciate a little story in my games. 
 You're welcome. I hope you get into the fiction portal and read more. New Eden had a good story when EVE Online started, and now it's had almost 10 years to keep developing.
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        |  Baal Omniscient
 L.O.T.I.S.
 Legacy Rising
 
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      | Posted - 2013.02.03 05:12:00 -
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 Can docking stations be destroyed? Just.... out of MILD curiosity.... >=D
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        |  Templar Eight
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2013.02.04 01:16:00 -
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 Baal Omniscient wrote:Can docking stations be destroyed? Just.... out of MILD curiosity.... >=D 
 
 This is a touche subject.
 
 All docking stations are subject to attack by capsuleers. The ones that are, are owned by other capsuleer, not "NPC" docking station.
 Many stories (I'm talking about lore) have been told about attacks against docking stations but none of these involve capsuleers.
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        |  Gullegubben
 Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
 
 32
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.02.04 01:53:00 -
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 Baal Omniscient wrote:Can docking stations be destroyed? Just.... out of MILD curiosity.... >=D 
 Not destroyed, only conquered.
 
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        |  Baal Omniscient
 L.O.T.I.S.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.04.12 02:16:00 -
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 Just bumping a helpful thread. =)
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        |  Sergamon Draco
 Darkstar Mercs
 
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      | Posted - 2013.04.12 18:16:00 -
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 Im hippie with a gun
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        |  XANDER KAG
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.04.12 18:30:00 -
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 Gullegubben wrote:Minmatar like drums and spears, hate the Amarr and don't like the Caldari.
 Its not drums and spears its roll chairs with 6 uzi's strapped on!
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