DUST Search - CCP's roadmap

Beast Beastlington wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/6703/fefwefwfef.png

This probably explains where the full platoons went...

Today's peak login 9,981

Vs Team Fortress 2 at 53,407 players which is years old

Or Borderlands 2 15,000 players and that's a 4 player game, on multiple platforms and virtual stores. also approaching its first year.

Or Call of Duty MW 3's at 17,000 who everyone here can agree its strongest platform is xbox 360 and is already quite old.

Or Modern Warfare 2! at 10,000 still!

There is something absolutely wrong with planetside 2 at it's core and you're saying that every one of those features over the next 6 months is going to miraculously save the game?

The contents of the road map is nearly what I expect out of a DLC for Battlefield 3.

This is not like Dota 1 vs Dota 2 where Dota 2 overshadow its predecessor entirely and nullified every reason to go back to 1.

When planetside 2 is losing people to planetside 1 you got a major problem.

And the one game that was declared a sinking ship and abandon all hope has 5x more xfire players than Planetside 2. Star Wars the Old Republic. Why? Because they addressed the heart of the game's issues.

lmao

You do realize that Planetside 2 is available through other means than Steam don't you?

If a game of the quality of Planetside 2 numbers are so "low" then you might as well wipe your arse on Dust right now.

I don't think I've ever seen a more blinded fanboy.

Keep repeating "CCP are great....Dust is perfect....CCP are great....Dust is perfect".


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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.29 17:25:00 - [1] - Quote The below is speculative based on informal discussions with developers, tweets, interviews, and blogs. February Re-Introduce Faction Warfare Properly Add additional Tiles to the procedural maps Possibly begin Testing Mega Terrain Generator and Map Generator to assign Bring back Star Map Add non-consenting corp battle contracts. Improve corp functions add 3 new guns new sounds Increase squad size to 6 Increase team size to 18 another balance pass adjust Sp system again screw over UVT once more with corp uvts. Add vegetation. April Survive Fan Fest.... May Survive hangover from Fan Fest... Summer 2013 Complete FW integration and refine it Optimize Dust 514 Launch build of Dust 514 Add more tile sets for the map. Market Certificate System Adjust salvage system Post launch 2013 Continue to add additional weapons, vehicles, suits, skills to get towards factional symmetry Continue to add additional tile sets for the terrain generator. Improve NPE experience Continued Bug fixes and balance passes. Measure player battle size and network and increase player count per battle if needed. Improvements to corporation system Introduce more guns. More suits. More vehicles. Winter 2013 Improve NPE experience Continue to add additional weapons, vehicles, suits, skills to get towards factional symmetry Launch First Expansion PVE Rogue Drone Infestation Game mode. Continue to add additional tile sets for the terrain generator. Arena Mode with new game modes, match settings, rules, and betting and likely spectator mode. MTACs Magma Planets Measure player battle size and network and increase player count per battle if needed. Improvements to corporation system Introduce more guns. More suits. More vehicles. Summer 2014 Continue to add additional weapons, vehicles, suits, skills to get towards factional symmetry Launch Second Expansion Take into consideration of planetary attributes such as gravity, pressure, and temperature and turn them into game mechaics Launch PS4 client Open up Null sec space. Refine Arena mode with more game types and rules. Begin iterating or creating Conquest mode. Continue to add additional tile sets for the terrain generator. Introduce Alliance mechanics to Dust 514. Possibly introduce another planet type and vehicle support with it. Measure player battle size and network and increase player count per battle if needed. Begin allowing eve players the manufacture of dust 514 goods. Improvements to corporation system Improve NPE experience Introduce more guns. More suits. More vehicles. Winter 2014 Launch Third Expansion Begin frame work for dust 514 side industry. Continue to add additional weapons, vehicles, suits, skills to get towards factional symmetry Improve NPE experience Introduce Privately Owned bases and allow corp roled people to build and design bases using preset tiles. Continue to add additional tile sets for the terrain generator. Possibly introduce another planet type and vehicle support. Continue to add additional weapons, vehicles, suits, skills to get towards factional symmetry. Introduce controllable and build-able MCCs Version 2.0 Graphics using new techniques learned from unreal engine 4. Improvements to corporation system Introduce more guns. More suits. More vehicles. 2015 and beyond Launch Expansions 4-20 Continue to add additional tile sets for the terrain generator. Achieve Factional Symmetrical answers it not done by then. All planet types included Incursion PVE modes PVE missions against bases or other npc hostiles Standings System Exploration Zones Player buildable Facilities of all sorts Market Corporate owned War barges Being able to posses eve online items, as well as steal them Improvements to corporation system PC client? Retire the PS3 client when paying player base using said hardware falls too low to justify support. Take fuller advantage of PS4 client once PS3 client retires. Introduce more guns. More suits. More vehicles. As noted all subject to change, adapt, alter, and cancel. In comparison to PS2s road map I am extremely pissed off about PS2's map as it offers no real solution to what is wrong at the heart of the game. AKA 'why win?'
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.29 19:02:00 - [2] - Quote Moonracer2000 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The below is speculative based on informal discussions with developers, tweets, interviews, and blogs. ... I think this is part of the problem. Every once in a while someone comes out and seems to have about 90% more of an idea of what is going on. If CCP are communicating even half of what you said outside the forums how come we can't get a sticky post from the Developers about this stuff? Something vague like "This is what we are trying to accomplish in the next six months" and just being upfront that not everything will be done in that time. Like I said though road map is written in mud in a hurricane. Corporation features (at any level) was originally slated 2013 Summer and Launch Day Winter 2012. Guess how much foot stomping cause those two to swap? Also I only represent the IRC community at most. There are other outlets of information from Twitter, Blogsphere, and casts and its really up to the community to raise awareness of each of these.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.29 20:32:00 - [3] - Quote Eve Online Allaince Logos Mercenary Colation http://eve-history.net/wiki/images/Mc_card_logo_c.jpg TEST Alliance http://b.vimeocdn.com/ps/220/042/2200428_300.jpg Pandemic Legion http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/img/alliances/PandemicLegion.png Against All Authroties http://image.eveonline.com/Alliance/288377808_128.png a few custom logos
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.29 23:07:00 - [4] - Quote KrankyPenguin wrote: Aw man! They are gonna switch the game over to the PS4? I didn't know about that. I wasn't planning on buying the next console until the price drops. Don't worry about having to buy on day 1, the number of active mercs needs to fall below the 1% magical mark for retiring the ps3 console client. So it may be a year or two afterwards. After all the ps2 was still being pumping out of factories up until 2012 December.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 00:21:00 - [5] - Quote Zat Earthshatter wrote: From the sound of it, their IRC channel is their main method of communication - it seems the Forums are mostly a player feeback and chat tool, which is fine by me considering current in-game chat isn't nearly as good as it can be. Iron Wolf's roadmap sounds like something CCP would do - IIRC it took about the same amount of time for EVE Online to introduce null space and full industry. Following that roadmap, DUST seems set to act like a bubble blown inside another bubble - do what its predecessor did at about the same speed, and eventually fill the space that it's set in without bursting the "mother" bubble Even if it's a little slow, that's exactly how this kind of game needs to go - nobody's done anything like this before, so they're making sure it's done right. EDIT: that means that, right now, we're likely in an "experimental" design phase, where CCP is testing different paradigms to see which fits better before using it as a groundwork - likely how we wound up with such a vastly different Skirmish than originally designed. That is different than technical work and bug-squashing, which is work that continues from the beginning of programming until the end of time. IRC is their informal means of communication. Informal enough that we had a developer sniped for accidentally speaking about things that should be unheard and I refuse to repeat what is said so would that red laser dot on my forehead please go away?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 01:21:00 - [6] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: A roadmap is long overdue. There seems to be an excuse meme among the longtime CCP fanboi that it's not needed or impossible. Sony clearly shows its not only possible but a key part of their customer communications and development process. Do better CCP. I don't consider PS2's roadmap a roadmap at all to be honest and I quit the game because of it. Also... The reason why some companies HIDE their road maps. Competition.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 01:33:00 - [7] - Quote Well if the only thing PS2 is going to do is add 2 guns, 1 vehicle and 1 map and further quit bothering in trying to make every faction more unique and address nothing...
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 01:57:00 - [8] - Quote Applying a Boiler SMGs Gun 1 Whine UI Improvement Game Play Improvmeent Copy Paste PS1 Whine NPE that takes more players away from the game Awesome Useless Feature UI Improvement Will likely be absued to report cheaters instead. World of Warcraft Oddly very uncharacteristic of SOE Useless Feature Already in the game Pay to win Pay for something that should have been put in the first place. aka Nerf These are missing? Should have been day 1 Improved is a realtive word UI Overdue Whine Gun 3 Overdue Why? Great way to get unfriended. yet no block list still? Meh other than the map hates aircraft. Already in Role stomp Gun 4 aka nerf useless ... really more money spending to replace some lame voices? It better be significant Whine Seeing this as a bad idea for the artist E-sports Nerf to engineers. Aircraft becomes tank lunch, news at 11. Does this mean they die faster? Whining and more antisocial tools Gun 5 Vehicle 1 [/quote] There Boiled.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 02:04:00 - [9] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: lol Pathetic. Applies more boiler. 'The next 6 months of planetside 2 is marginal appeasement to the current generation of gamers while disheartening previous fans and nearly abandoning them. '
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 02:10:00 - [10] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Beast Beastlington wrote: lol Pathetic. Applies more boiler. 'The next 6 months of planetside 2 is marginal appeasement to the current generation of gamers while disheartening previous fans and nearly abandoning them. ' What you really meant to say is: "I'm squinting my eyes to ensure I only see the things I want to see". No I am looking at a game I no longer have the heart to play anymore, SOE screwed over PS2 like they screwed over just about every other MMO they ever launched, Screw you SOE on SWG, PS1, and now PS2.

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 02:19:00 - [11] - Quote dunno xfire while not accurate is a decent sampeling, the population shows it keeps dipping down and down. There are quite large number players demanding server merges from the 14 down to 7. I joined a platoon the other day with 2 other people. a PLATOON, not a squad platoon of 3, 1 man squads. To top it off. Planetside 1 population is growing.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 02:34:00 - [12] - Quote http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/6703/fefwefwfef.png This probably explains where the full platoons went... Today's peak login 9,981 Vs Team Fortress 2 at 53,407 players which is years old Or Borderlands 2 15,000 players and that's a 4 player game, on multiple platforms and virtual stores. also approaching its first year. Or Call of Duty MW 3's at 17,000 who everyone here can agree its strongest platform is xbox 360 and is already quite old. Or Modern Warfare 2! at 10,000 still! There is something absolutely wrong with planetside 2 at it's core and you're saying that every one of those features over the next 6 months is going to miraculously save the game? The contents of the road map is nearly what I expect out of a DLC for Battlefield 3. This is not like Dota 1 vs Dota 2 where Dota 2 overshadow its predecessor entirely and nullified every reason to go back to 1. When planetside 2 is losing people to planetside 1 you got a major problem. And the one game that was declared a sinking ship and abandon all hope has 5x more xfire players than Planetside 2. Star Wars the Old Republic. Why? Because they addressed the heart of the game's issues.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 13:11:00 - [13] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/6703/fefwefwfef.png This probably explains where the full platoons went... Today's peak login 9,981 Vs Team Fortress 2 at 53,407 players which is years old Or Borderlands 2 15,000 players and that's a 4 player game, on multiple platforms and virtual stores. also approaching its first year. Or Call of Duty MW 3's at 17,000 who everyone here can agree its strongest platform is xbox 360 and is already quite old. Or Modern Warfare 2! at 10,000 still! There is something absolutely wrong with planetside 2 at it's core and you're saying that every one of those features over the next 6 months is going to miraculously save the game? The contents of the road map is nearly what I expect out of a DLC for Battlefield 3. This is not like Dota 1 vs Dota 2 where Dota 2 overshadow its predecessor entirely and nullified every reason to go back to 1. When planetside 2 is losing people to planetside 1 you got a major problem. And the one game that was declared a sinking ship and abandon all hope has 5x more xfire players than Planetside 2. Star Wars the Old Republic. Why? Because they addressed the heart of the game's issues. lmao You do realize that Planetside 2 is available through other means than Steam don't you? If a game of the quality of Planetside 2 numbers are so "low" then you might as well wipe your arse on Dust right now. I don't think I've ever seen a more blinded fanboy. Keep repeating "CCP are great....Dust is perfect....CCP are great....Dust is perfect". Gee I wonder why I listed the non-steam game... especially ones significantly more popular on other platforms. None the less steam is a good scatter shotgun survey as it covers the average player where xfire is a bit widely inaccurate. Also like I said, auto-join squads shouldn't be putting me into 'combined' groups smaller than dust 514 squads but they do. Sizes of fronts formed shouldn't be smaller than dust 514 team sizes either but they are... Also genuine cheaters are still quite prevalent in the game.Getting killed by people in the floor is no fun at all. Secondly don't put words in my mouth or I will hurt you more... matter fact I will right now. 132+ minor things wrong with dust 514 most of them from my own experience and by no means is the list complete. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=53128 I also find it odd that the only good thing said about planetside 2 was before end of beta.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 13:39:00 - [14] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: You posted STEAM stats for Planetside, spud! Uhm duh? because SOE has a business to run and publishing active player counts can be bad for business and many companies avoid doing this. World of warcraft for example is getting harder and harder to pull numbers from. Overall most other graphs I found where useless they quit tracking after launch day, or have some really obscure numbers that make your case look worse if interpeted the wrong way and thus not used at all as I call those bad graphs. Or that web traffic spike that show interest in the road map and by good guesstimation puts the playing population of planetside 2 at less than 100k.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 14:15:00 - [15] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: Posts meaningless stats on a game that's available from more than one place as a means to show the game is dying and then says "duh" when he's shown that not everyone uses Steam to log in. Is that you Dolan Duck? Considering you're supposed to counter post a graph proving me wrong you're sort of failing your end of the deal. Also steam is a sample similar to polling and its quite accurate in terms of tracking where player trends are going, unless you can scientifically reasonably explain why only steam users are quitting. As for Dust 514's Direction PS2s New Continent vs Dust 514's Map Generator PS2s lack of base variety vs Dust 514's Insistence on adding new tiles for the map generator to use.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 14:43:00 - [16] - Quote http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2012/11/Steam-Graph-game-tracking.jpg Number of people who show up the next day not as strong as previously. and I consider football manager an boring game.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.01.30 15:34:00 - [17] - Quote Beast Beastlington wrote: You are just doing your utmost to obfuscate. You aren't answering the question, a tactic I notice you are particularly good at. Now, let's assume that Planetside 2 closes in 5 minutes. Whoopee...no one really cares. How does that have anything to do with the fact that CCP are not doing a good job communicating with the community Actually no, I have logically answered all of your questions with support evidence, you have stupidly grasped at thin air concepts such as the statement of Planetside 2 shutting down in 5 minutes. You're nearly breaking every bad rule in the debate book that wouldn't impress a business meeting. As for your communications they're busy as hell as well as CCP's IA is still rather irate with the recent bad leak that the rest of the members are sworn not to repeat. Because of [CCP]Nullabor won't spill the beans on FW his project unless its approved by marketing, and [CCP]nothin today posted he is looking to see if the odd squad and odd size player battles work and from the general feel from irc conversations the server stability is their current focus. Lots of hamsters are getting sick or lost. [CCP]Fame is busy as heck as well working with [CCP] Pokethulu (David Reid) on marketing which is why he rare talks to us. At least he tries https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=507091#post507091 BTW this was a road map item since day 1 of public beta. [CCP] Pokethulu > 'We don't want to have dust 514 soldier suddenly everywhere in New Eden and not explain them in the New Eden universe, so we are actually going to integrate the beta into the story line.' I been predicting portions of the event for about 3 weeks now. Just got the location and 1 of the factions wrong.