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Lozruet Gravemind
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:56:00 -
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Now Im technically a newberry myself (less than 3 or 4 days now) but I know the basics. You Hack Turrets/Depots/Null Cannons and you kill the other guys. But if you havnt taken the time to Read the notes on the load screens or ask someone for help then please PLEASE dont just jump in a game. When I get 500 WP in a game and Im the #1 player on my team then somthing is terribly wrong. Ive played plenty of FPSs and ive played EVE so Dusts general design is not alien to me. But if your going to play any kind of game at least take the 5 minutes it takes to know the most basic of game principles. |
Drado Arona
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:59:00 -
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Lozruet Gravemind wrote: Now Im technically a newberry myself (less than 3 or 4 days now) but I know the basics. You Hack Turrets/Depots/Null Cannons and you kill the other guys. But if you havnt taken the time to Read the notes on the load screens or ask someone for help then please PLEASE dont just jump in a game. When I get 500 WP in a game and Im the #1 player on my team then somthing is terribly wrong. Ive played plenty of FPSs and ive played EVE so Dusts general design is not alien to me. But if your going to play any kind of game at least take the 5 minutes it takes to know the most basic of game principles. 500wp? what kind of horrible games did you get stuck in? I can't find myself getting any less then 1k ever. |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:01:00 -
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really dude? 5 days and YOUR calling people "newberries"?! This is whats wrong here, everyone is an expert after 5 days. If your getting 500wp and telling people what to do then something is really wrong here.
Does anyone have lebron James's e-mail I have to tell him how to shoot free throws. |
Drado Arona
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:04:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:really dude? 5 days and YOUR calling people "newberries"?! This is whats wrong here, everyone is an expert after 5 days. If your getting 500wp and telling people what to do then something is really wrong here.
Does anyone have lebron James's e-mail I have to tell him how to shoot free throws. Not entirely sure on what he's trying to get at but he did say, "If i'm geting 500wp and #1 something's wrong" which kind of indicates he's saying that he's about himself, that he's bad and there's no reason he should be #1 on his team. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:08:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:really dude? 5 days and YOUR calling people "newberries"?! This is whats wrong here, everyone is an expert after 5 days. If your getting 500wp and telling people what to do then something is really wrong here.
Does anyone have lebron James's e-mail I have to tell him how to shoot free throws. Yea... I don't think you read OP right. If your only problem is a newberry calling others newberries then what do you want him to call them? Blue berries? It would be equally as irrelevant as your post for him to do that.
If your problem is you think this guy is getting too big for his birches calling others newberries - then please re-read where he said him getting 500WP and being on top is wrong and take the time to think - as painful as I know that is to do sometimes. |
Kaserai Mandrag
DUST University Ivy League
57
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:15:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:really dude? 5 days and YOUR calling people "newberries"?! This is whats wrong here, everyone is an expert after 5 days. If your getting 500wp and telling people what to do then something is really wrong here.
Does anyone have lebron James's e-mail I have to tell him how to shoot free throws.
Quit trolling.
If you would actually pay attention and use your BRAIN, you would understand the post. The OP is simply stating that he is getting stuck in such bad teams, even HIM (A newberry) ends up getting top score in the player list.
Pay attention |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:18:00 -
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My problem is that someone getting 500wp is telling people what they need to do. If you were at a job for a year and the new guy comes in complaining about the new people wouldn't you be a little confused.
i understand he is saying he is new and bad and hr is still getting 1st place. But thats the problem if your new or bad at something should you be telling people what to do? I see his point about asking for help or looking for it, but it's that it's coming from someone who doesn't understand the the game completely. So whats the cut off to tell people how to play, 3 days, 1 day, and hour? Maybe he should let people do as they do and worry about getting a few more days under is belt before calling people newberries or telling them they need to READ this. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:22:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:My problem is that someone getting 500wp is telling people what they need to do. If you were at a job for a year and the new guy comes in complaining about the new people wouldn't you be a little confused.
i understand he is saying he is new and bad and hr is still getting 1st place. But thats the problem if your new or bad at something should you be telling people what to do? I see his point about asking for help or looking for it, but it's that it's coming from someone who doesn't understand the the game completely. So whats the cut off to tell people how to play, 3 days, 1 day, and hour? Maybe he should let people do as they do and worry about getting a few more days under is belt before calling people newberries or telling them they need to READ this. If I suck at making burgers but understand that it needs meat but the idiot next to me is putting hotdogs - I should tell him how to fix his mistakes even if I suck at it.
You're just being an elitist. |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
74
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:26:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:My problem is that someone getting 500wp is telling people what they need to do. If you were at a job for a year and the new guy comes in complaining about the new people wouldn't you be a little confused.
i understand he is saying he is new and bad and hr is still getting 1st place. But thats the problem if your new or bad at something should you be telling people what to do? I see his point about asking for help or looking for it, but it's that it's coming from someone who doesn't understand the the game completely. So whats the cut off to tell people how to play, 3 days, 1 day, and hour? Maybe he should let people do as they do and worry about getting a few more days under is belt before calling people newberries or telling them they need to READ this.
Does it really matter how long someone has been playing if they dont know how to play? Maybe he learns faster and in 3 days understands more then some people that have played for 7 days. The amount of time played is errelevent as long as the player understands. |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:28:00 -
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His message is correct, however. The newberries are still newberries, even if described as such by one of their own.
The issue is that people think they can simply dive into this game like it's CoD - and it's the exact opposite on the FPS spectrum. For starters - you know when the AI asks you "would you like to know more?" At least the first time, say "Yes!" DUST is more complicated and team-focused than your average shooter, and the experienced know how to take every single percentage increase and turn it against you. The very least you can do, is learn what skillpoints mean, and that almost every weapon has a way to be beaten.
This isn't a "I wanna kill everyone right away!" game. That mentality will just cost you ISK. Take a breath, assess a situation, and adjust to it like water. HMG tearing you up? Get a sniper rifle out, or get at his back with a shotgun. Laser Rifle melting you? Again, sniper. Or pull an LAV and get in his face where his weapon does minimal damage. HAV? spawn AV and at least annoy him, if not kill outright. Dropship? Just keep pressure on it, and you're fine - the turrets usually have a hard time hitting while the dropship is moving, so you want to make it move. |
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Drado Arona
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:28:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:My problem is that someone getting 500wp is telling people what they need to do. If you were at a job for a year and the new guy comes in complaining about the new people wouldn't you be a little confused.
i understand he is saying he is new and bad and hr is still getting 1st place. But thats the problem if your new or bad at something should you be telling people what to do? I see his point about asking for help or looking for it, but it's that it's coming from someone who doesn't understand the the game completely. So whats the cut off to tell people how to play, 3 days, 1 day, and hour? Maybe he should let people do as they do and worry about getting a few more days under is belt before calling people newberries or telling them they need to READ this. Are you a bully? Clannad remarks aside. He's not telling people what to do he's saying (begging) if you don't even have the slightest idea of how the games works to take a single second of your life to learn the very very very core basics. Hacking, killing, ect. |
Drado Arona
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:31:00 -
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Zat Earthshatter wrote:His message is correct, however. The newberries are still newberries, even if described as such by one of their own.
The issue is that people think they can simply dive into this game like it's CoD - and it's the exact opposite on the FPS spectrum. For starters - you know when the AI asks you "would you like to know more?" At least the first time, say "Yes!" DUST is more complicated and team-focused than your average shooter, and the experienced know how to take every single percentage increase and turn it against you. The very least you can do, is learn what skillpoints mean, and that almost every weapon has a way to be beaten.
This isn't a "I wanna kill everyone right away!" game. That mentality will just cost you ISK. Take a breath, assess a situation, and adjust to it like water. HMG tearing you up? Get a sniper rifle out, or get at his back with a shotgun. Laser Rifle melting you? Again, sniper. Or pull an LAV and get in his face where his weapon does minimal damage. HAV? spawn AV and at least annoy him, if not kill outright. Dropship? Just keep pressure on it, and you're fine - the turrets usually have a hard time hitting while the dropship is moving, so you want to make it move.
Well OP seems to understand this and is just trying to spread the word about actually hacking points instead of rushing into sniper fire and all the likes. |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:31:00 -
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Drado Arona wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:My problem is that someone getting 500wp is telling people what they need to do. If you were at a job for a year and the new guy comes in complaining about the new people wouldn't you be a little confused.
i understand he is saying he is new and bad and hr is still getting 1st place. But thats the problem if your new or bad at something should you be telling people what to do? I see his point about asking for help or looking for it, but it's that it's coming from someone who doesn't understand the the game completely. So whats the cut off to tell people how to play, 3 days, 1 day, and hour? Maybe he should let people do as they do and worry about getting a few more days under is belt before calling people newberries or telling them they need to READ this. Are you a bully? Clannad remarks aside. He's not telling people what to do he's saying if you don't even have the slightest idea of how the games works to take a single second of your life to learn the very very very core basics. Hacking, killing, ect. Clannad reference? You get + 100000000 my now very good friend. :D :D |
Drado Arona
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:33:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:Clannad reference? You get + 100000000 my now very good friend. :D :D Hello, my name is kotomi, said with three syllables, Ko-to-mi. |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
200
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:34:00 -
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Well at least I know the blind can actually lead the blind. good to know. |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:36:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:Well at least I know the blind can actually lead the blind. good to know. Explain why you wrote and how it relates to this thread. Cause I fail to see how the OP is blind. |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:37:00 -
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Drado Arona wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:Clannad reference? You get + 100000000 my now very good friend. :D :D Hello, my name is kotomi, said with three syllables, Ko-to-mi. And I want to say so much to this... but all I will say is Tomoyo and Kyou <3 |
Drado Arona
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:40:00 -
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SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Drado Arona wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:Clannad reference? You get + 100000000 my now very good friend. :D :D Hello, my name is kotomi, said with three syllables, Ko-to-mi. And I want to say so much to this... but all I will say is Tomoyo and Kyou <3 Ryou is better. Then again I really loved fuko.
P.S. this is now a clannad thread. (aside from yelling at the elitist) |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:41:00 -
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ISN'T THE ENDING TO AFTER STORY THE SADDEST THING IN THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD?!?!?!?!
It's not the kinda manly tears Gurren Lagann Inspired - but damn emotional either way. Q.Q |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
200
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:43:00 -
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he is new and only gets 500 wp. how can he see, no mention of capping ABCDE which would be way more important than turrets/depots.
I didn't get on the forums and read anything and I figured it out. Basically who is a new person to tell people they need to read something and get better.
I feel he needs to read more or get more help. These people are new also, they will learn when and how they learn, and if there was no demand or malice to it, why is read in caps and calling people newberries? That doesn't seem helpfull
Helpfull: hey guys I'm new like you, here is a great resource to get even better, insert players name who is helpfull or link. |
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Drado Arona
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:43:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:ISN'T THE ENDING TO AFTER STORY THE SADDEST THING IN THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD?!?!?!?!
It's not the kinda manly tears Gurren Lagann Inspired - but damn emotional either way. Q.Q Nah, Ushio dying was the saddest thing ever. Anyways we must either take this to the locker room or PM's soon because at this rate GM's will close this thread. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:44:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:ISN'T THE ENDING TO AFTER STORY THE SADDEST THING IN THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD?!?!?!?!
It's not the kinda manly tears Gurren Lagann Inspired - but damn emotional either way. Q.Q
I have placed remote explosives on everyone in this thread.
provide me cookies, and a gorgeous redhead (must be female, under no circumstances is close good enough) and a six pack of beer or I detonate the thread. |
Drado Arona
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:45:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:he is new and only gets 500 wp. how can he see, no mention of capping ABCDE which would be way more important than turrets/depots.
I didn't get on the forums and read anything and I figured it out. Basically who is a new person to tell people they need to read something and get better.
I feel he needs to read more or get more help. These people are new also, they will learn when and how they learn, and if there was no demand or malice to it, why is read in caps and calling people newberries? That doesn't seem helpfull
Helpfull: hey guys I'm new like you, here is a great resource to get even better, insert players name who is helpfull or link. ENGLISH! DO YOU TRULY UNDERSTAND IT? |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
200
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:47:00 -
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What is english? aperrently i need to ask someone who has been learning the language for 5 days and they can tell me what it is. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:48:00 -
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Drado Arona wrote: ENGLISH! DO YOU TRULY UNDERSTAND IT?
NO HE DOES NOT!.
I hereby sentence him to death, repeatedly. preferrably with a scrambler pistol by a heavy with 0 shields and armor. because it's insulting. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:49:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What is english? aperrently i need to ask someone who has been learning the language for 5 days and they can tell me what it is.
be careful, your level of dumb is contagious. quit exposing the newberries. |
Toyis Winknife
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:49:00 -
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im sick of seeing other players with injectors run right past me as I lay dieing yet I go out of my way to rez others. or getting a rez just to die cus the dumbass dint finish off the guy that killed me.I place in top 6 without trying most times just capping/rez/healing top 3 if im getting kills.Time for new players to read up on game IMO! |
Lozruet Gravemind
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:50:00 -
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I knew I would get some flames for posting this. Thanks for those that at least seem to paritally understand what I was getting at. Now Im not a horrible player (not the bottom of the barrel) but Im not the best either and I know that. When I have a Good squad I can do good, but throw me with teammates who cant even do the basics and all Im doing is wasting ISK from all the Fits Ill be burning through (I can win 1 on 1s but when its 1 on 3/4 thats another story). The point of the OP (I came off very condescending and that does happen when ANYONE is angry) was that regardless of what type of game you play (FPS/MMO/RTS/Fighting) that you need to understand and know how to do what is neccesary to win said games. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:51:00 -
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It's okay newberries - you don't have to believe in yourself.
instead - Believe in the me that believes in you! |
Lozruet Gravemind
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.01.29 05:58:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:he is new and only gets 500 wp. how can he see, no mention of capping ABCDE which would be way more important than turrets/depots.
I didn't get on the forums and read anything and I figured it out. Basically who is a new person to tell people they need to read something and get better.
I feel he needs to read more or get more help. These people are new also, they will learn when and how they learn, and if there was no demand or malice to it, why is read in caps and calling people newberries? That doesn't seem helpfull
Helpfull: hey guys I'm new like you, here is a great resource to get even better, insert players name who is helpfull or link.
As I said afterward I realized it came off condesending and apologized about that. If you noticed I did mention capping NULL Cannons which are the lettered objectives in the game. The key problem is that people expect to just be able to jump into games. No one anymore takes the 5 to 15 minutes before starting to play any game to try and figure out how it works. My first about 30 minutes to hour I did nothing but look through the NeoCom. Read through the skills, and look through the Starter Fits to see how they basically went together. As I said Im not the best nor am I the worst, but my performance in game does hinge on whether my teammates can actually contribute or not. When your in games where 500 WP is #1 then most of your teammates are not contributing, or only contributing to the opposing teams kill count. |
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