DUST Search - [NOTICE] Laser Rifles: Complaints of broken skill features.

Altina McAlterson wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Zero Harpuia wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

I bitched about this in a few other threads and there still hasn't been any word from CCP. Apparently, it being broken is working as intended.

Apparent is nice, but I'd rather make sure that they know then just hope. The buyer's remorse for Laser Rifle V is enough incentive, and both to ensure that it is fixed and to make sure no one spends their hard-earned points on a literally useless skill are decent goals.

It's honestly a shame that you go through all of that to get the ELM-7 for (hang on to something) 4% tacked on to the overheat.

Skills don't work
ELM-7 doesn't have a damage/range increase
Viziam is far too expensive for what you have to go through in order to get it
As are the (aforementioned broken) skills.

I have no idea why they fail to mention this week after week in the Bugs/Feedback weekly reports but it's seriously getting irritating. My suggestion? Mass produce threads on the General Discussions so that the moderators have to keep moving them to Feedback/Bugs - then they HAVE to do something about it because it's just annoying the **** out of them otherwise.

ELM-7 does have a range and damage increase. Damage increase in the sense that you can fire it longer without overheating. Increase in max range as well as a smaller increase in optimal range. Viziam has no range increase over the ELM-7 and the extra time before cooldown is negated by the fact that you would emtpy the clip before it overheated. Which I believe would also be the case with the ELM-7 if the skills worked properly. CCP just needs to fix the whole damn thing.


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Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.01 06:32:00 - [1] - Quote I bitched about this in a few other threads and there still hasn't been any word from CCP. Apparently, it being broken is working as intended.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.01 10:44:00 - [2] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I bitched about this in a few other threads and there still hasn't been any word from CCP. Apparently, it being broken is working as intended. Apparent is nice, but I'd rather make sure that they know then just hope. The buyer's remorse for Laser Rifle V is enough incentive, and both to ensure that it is fixed and to make sure no one spends their hard-earned points on a literally useless skill are decent goals. It's honestly a shame that you go through all of that to get the ELM-7 for (hang on to something) 4% tacked on to the overheat. Skills don't work ELM-7 doesn't have a damage/range increase Viziam is far too expensive for what you have to go through in order to get it As are the (aforementioned broken) skills. I have no idea why they fail to mention this week after week in the Bugs/Feedback weekly reports but it's seriously getting irritating. My suggestion? Mass produce threads on the General Discussions so that the moderators have to keep moving them to Feedback/Bugs - then they HAVE to do something about it because it's just annoying the **** out of them otherwise.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.01 15:27:00 - [3] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I bitched about this in a few other threads and there still hasn't been any word from CCP. Apparently, it being broken is working as intended. Apparent is nice, but I'd rather make sure that they know then just hope. The buyer's remorse for Laser Rifle V is enough incentive, and both to ensure that it is fixed and to make sure no one spends their hard-earned points on a literally useless skill are decent goals. It's honestly a shame that you go through all of that to get the ELM-7 for (hang on to something) 4% tacked on to the overheat. Skills don't work ELM-7 doesn't have a damage/range increase Viziam is far too expensive for what you have to go through in order to get it As are the (aforementioned broken) skills. I have no idea why they fail to mention this week after week in the Bugs/Feedback weekly reports but it's seriously getting irritating. My suggestion? Mass produce threads on the General Discussions so that the moderators have to keep moving them to Feedback/Bugs - then they HAVE to do something about it because it's just annoying the **** out of them otherwise. ELM-7 does have a range and damage increase. Damage increase in the sense that you can fire it longer without overheating. Increase in max range as well as a smaller increase in optimal range. Viziam has no range increase over the ELM-7 and the extra time before cooldown is negated by the fact that you would emtpy the clip before it overheated. Which I believe would also be the case with the ELM-7 if the skills worked properly. CCP just needs to fix the whole damn thing. Yes because that extra 4% mag's worth of damage is going to make such a significant difference. Disagree, in case you couldn't tell. The ELM-7 needs a bit of a damage increase so as not to make it entirely a range based upgrade over the standard Laser Rifle.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.02 09:58:00 - [4] - Quote Welp, CCP says you can't bump threads. So, Bump. Shameless bump, in fact.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.07 11:36:00 - [5] - Quote Another shameless bump, being as CCP Eterne states that they pay attention to all threads. Interestingly enough, no mention of fixing the Laser skills in the weekly update on bugs/feedback. Continue the annoyance game until it gets fixed, men X_x;
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.08 06:18:00 - [6] - Quote Lol - bunch of martyrs we Laser Rifle users are. They're either going to suspend our forum access for constant bumping or lock the thread and ensure even more passionate outcry about the broken skills. Or, yanno, actually fix them... That's another option, unlikely as it may seem at the moment...
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.10 09:14:00 - [7] - Quote Feels like another version of the 'retake mass effect' movement =P
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.10 16:58:00 - [8] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Any more word on getting these skills either properly fixed or altered in effect? (skills that list a bonus should really provide some form of edge on the field) Nope. Cause is still strong though.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.13 18:16:00 - [9] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: You may as well wait until their vacation finishes before bumping again. Man does have a point.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.20 06:20:00 - [10] - Quote Swear to god if a new build comes out before they fix these skills I'm going to tank the ratings on Metacritic -_-

Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.20 18:02:00 - [11] - Quote Oh, CCP Cmdr_Wang is on the forums! Why hasn't this been noted yet?! Say SOMETHING dude! At least tell us if you're not going to fix it so we can argue on that instead!
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.20 20:50:00 - [12] - Quote Bump until it gets fixed.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.21 22:11:00 - [13] - Quote Annnnd bump.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.22 11:02:00 - [14] - Quote Annnnd one more bump. Seriously, CCP is absolutely ignoring this thread.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.22 20:58:00 - [15] - Quote Kazio De Vihura wrote: Yeh laser are very sytuational and underwhelming. Optimal on them is how muche? 17m and range 81m ? AR have 79m range and 1-35 optimal, and at close there is no point evene try shot , you just die. SMG for the win.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1004	Posted - 2013.02.26 21:35:00 - [16] - Quote -Sigh- One more ***** bump now that I'm 100% CCP does not a give a **. That or they're going to ignore everything in the thread just to clean up posts and lock the thread -_- that'd be about right.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1008	Posted - 2013.02.27 20:00:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: I've restored the replication process since FoxFour said it wasn't what I thought it was even though I was right. Also, we're aware of the Laser Rifle skills being broken and have a fix in the pipeline for them. And the Crusade finally comes to a close. Thank you everyone for your support we can now go put the picket signs away and go home.