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theschizogenious
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2013.01.28 11:39:00 -
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how is it that a team can redline our team when our team had between three people 94 kills on 30 deaths? when everyone but those in my squad decided to stop pushing and play like newberries. here are some examples. "allright guys im unhacking alpha cover me." (gets to last bar and a reddot strolls in right through the three newberries and kills the un-hacker) "allright guys good job taking charlie just kill that one reddot and we can push them back to bravo" (newberries walk past reddot and start hacking a turret with no armor left) " i just cleared out alpha i need someone to cover me while i hack" (newberries sit there while 5 reddot's spawn in and kill the hacker, and then proceed to get killed by the reddots as they didnt bother to start shooting until they were being fired upon."
the top three players for the losing side went 40-12 striosal 36-10 me 18-8 vd7
plus the winning side lost 2 tanks 1 of which was a gunloggi and 9 lavs to this team of three none of the team of 3 were using anything higher than an adv ar and were using either std or militia gear for everything else.
the rest of the losing side got 30 kills total and around 110 deaths
the match was amazing and we had a blast because of the challenge YOUR NAME HERE's LR caused some annoyance during that match i believe but nothing we couldn't handle.
so as a message to all newberries red=bad, letter blinking= hack, red box with blue filling= good, blue box with red filoing= bad
and never stop pushing forward if you have three people on your team that are decimating the other team you couldve cloned them but you gave up and started sniping and shooting eachother. |
crazy space 2100046106
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:04:00 -
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94 kills... wait how many clones are there in skirmish?
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Washlee
UnReaL.
131
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:13:00 -
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I had to play games were me and my squad pulled the team , By pulling I mean we did all the work
me and my squad mates all had 25+ Kills and about maxing it at 49 Highest
the rest of the team nobody got more than 10 Kills on our team. |
The Dragon Ascendant
Celtic Anarchy
101
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:18:00 -
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Reminds me of an ambush me and one of my corp played last night. There were only the 2 of us in the squad (rest of the corp were already in full squads). We spawned in with only 2 minutes left on the clock, on the losing side, hardly any time to do anything right? I only managed 2 kills, my squadmate went 6/0 and jumped to the top of the board.
I don't know what the hell the rest of our team had been doing before we joined, but it was damn funny. |
3 bird
DUST University Ivy League
86
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:43:00 -
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newberry myself and while I have had matches with some of the same frustrations, i cant help but feel that coming to the forums to vent isn't the best way to improve the situation, it just opens up a divide between the new players and those of the closed beta.
Instead of venting your frustration might it not be better to try and take just one of these newberries under your wing for the night, especially if they have a mic. and educate them in the finer points of combat.
I realise that its a lot to ask as this is your rl downtime and having to spend your time training a new player isn't the hight of fun but if you can help just 1 newberry, welcome him into the community and get him interested enough in the game to do his own research, and he does the same to another newberrie and so on, wouldn't that be the best gaming community ever?
And it all comes down to the choice we make here and now, do you moan and rant and vent, or do we welcome, educate and train. Right now we are setting the tone of the community for years to come, and that's why I'm asking you to be the very best people you can be.
So go on, take a newberry under your wing, share you knowledge and train them. Be the very best this community has to offer. |
Razekial Flameclaw
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
19
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:11:00 -
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Im a new berry and I find the same thing rather annoying - yes i dont get many kills and a fair few deaths but im a logi so thats acceptable.
I'm trying to learn whats best for my character to better improve my abilities in the field but there is nothing more annoying than being on a team full of people who run around like they are playing call of duty....the most kills does not always mean the win. I come accross far too many people who do not understand the basics of team work and a common objective.
I'm looking forward to the day when I can afford a mic for the PS3 (damn sony not including one with the console) so i can look for a corp, make some friends and play how I like to play.
lastly - not everyone checks to forums =] |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:17:00 -
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And this is why i hate randoms on my team. No matter how good your squad is when there is a 5 point objective map it doesnt matter. It comes down on the average skill (NOT SKILLPOINTS) of the team. |
The Loathing
The Southern Legion
21
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:26:00 -
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3 bird wrote:newberry myself and while I have had matches with some of the same frustrations, i cant help but feel that coming to the forums to vent isn't the best way to improve the situation, it just opens up a divide between the new players and those of the closed beta.
Instead of venting your frustration might it not be better to try and take just one of these newberries under your wing for the night, especially if they have a mic. and educate them in the finer points of combat.
I realise that its a lot to ask as this is your rl downtime and having to spend your time training a new player isn't the hight of fun but if you can help just 1 newberry, welcome him into the community and get him interested enough in the game to do his own research, and he does the same to another newberrie and so on, wouldn't that be the best gaming community ever?
And it all comes down to the choice we make here and now, do you moan and rant and vent, or do we welcome, educate and train. Right now we are setting the tone of the community for years to come, and that's why I'm asking you to be the very best people you can be.
So go on, take a newberry under your wing, share you knowledge and train them. Be the very best this community has to offer.
Very well said.
However this only works if the newberries decide to actually participate in chat or voice comms. And unfortunately I can't remember the last time anyone actually joined me in Team Chat.
Perhaps that should be the lesson first and foremost: have a headset for this game and activate your comms in team chat during the match to actually give your team an organised chance. |
Midas Man ll
Talon Strike Force LTD Sleepless Knights Alliance
38
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:28:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:
TDLR version
Me and 2 mates spent all game sniping and picking people off running from point to point, despite out LEET newberry killing skill (which will degenerate from now on as the newberries learn the importance of cover).
the top three players for the losing side went
40-12 noob pwner 36-10 me 18-8 not quite as snipy sniper type
OMG all our pwn skills and we lost how is that. Please kill capture point games so us KDR types can pwn and win!
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Added a TDLR to fix your post |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2013.01.28 14:19:00 -
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Clearly, some idiots didnt really read his post. His trio wasnt trying tojust pad some kills, they were doing everything they could to win, killing, hacking, defending hacks, etc.
Its just that the stupidity and uselessness of the the blues could not be overcome. |
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Midas Man ll
Talon Strike Force LTD Sleepless Knights Alliance
38
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Posted - 2013.01.28 14:35:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:Clearly, some idiots didnt really read his post. His trio wasnt trying tojust pad some kills, they were doing everything they could to win, killing, hacking, defending hacks, etc.
Its just that the stupidity and uselessness of the the blues could not be overcome.
I read, reRead, and read again for good measure.
Like all chest beating KDR whores, we got little insight into what the winning team did, apart from lose a tank or 2 no doubt, the trio will take full credit for those kills also.....
So we can see that 3 player had a splendid number of kills but some "clueless cannon fodder noobs" on the winning team somehow won the battle?
If his post was about how awesome his team were at hacking objectives and covering each other and the other 13 did little else then I'd be all for it, but (un)fortunately he fit the usual KDR type, "OMG look how many kills we got but we lost, god dam them noobs why are they on my team....." poor excuses......
I mean honestly what noob try's to hack an objective whilst there are 5 red dots. What noob spends his life watching and counting the red dots on the minimap when their are red dots to kill? All the time he is on com's to his squad asking for cover but getting killed, i dont think this is newberries fault but more the squads fault for not supporting each other, No?
However the match was Amazing because the only player on the other team with any skill was no match for us. How the hell did you lose then?
And the best bit of all:
mikegunnz wrote: when everyone but those in my squad decided to stop pushing and play like newberries.
followed by
mikegunnz wrote: and never stop pushing forward if you have three people on your team that are decimating the other team
No maybe if you took your own advice rather than hiding in the red zone hoping Newberry McNoobleton will win the game for you and then blaming it all on him when you didnt even try to support him..... |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
71
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:27:00 -
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As a hacker, I kind of think the newberries let hackers get killed so they have a chance at getting the full +100 instead of possibly +50 of helping, or +50 for killing the distracted guy busy killing you (the hacker) and then +100 for finishing the hack while your dead body is still bleeding out.
And I kind of know for sure this is going to be the case when on the initial jump I'm getting friendly fire into my back as I'm leaving the team in the dust (PUNLOLZ) to hack all the yellow i can.
You have to be willing to let a hack go to live. What I do is hack and the second a red pops in, I stop hacking and fight. Most times I run away a bit, and the now less then crafty newberry is left to fend for themselves while I run circles putting them between me and the enemy. Nothing like a newberry shield! And then I still make sure to run to the hack first. And then I get more friendly fire pumped into me. shrug :) |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
444
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:30:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:how is it that a team can redline our team when our team had between three people 94 kills on 30 deaths? when everyone but those in my squad decided to stop pushing and play like newberries. here are some examples. "allright guys im unhacking alpha cover me." (gets to last bar and a reddot strolls in right through the three newberries and kills the un-hacker) "allright guys good job taking charlie just kill that one reddot and we can push them back to bravo" (newberries walk past reddot and start hacking a turret with no armor left) " i just cleared out alpha i need someone to cover me while i hack" (newberries sit there while 5 reddot's spawn in and kill the hacker, and then proceed to get killed by the reddots as they didnt bother to start shooting until they were being fired upon."
the top three players for the losing side went 40-12 striosal 36-10 me 18-8 vd7
plus the winning side lost 2 tanks 1 of which was a gunloggi and 9 lavs to this team of three none of the team of 3 were using anything higher than an adv ar and were using either std or militia gear for everything else.
the rest of the losing side got 30 kills total and around 110 deaths
the match was amazing and we had a blast because of the challenge YOUR NAME HERE's LR caused some annoyance during that match i believe but nothing we couldn't handle.
so as a message to all newberries red=bad, letter blinking= hack, red box with blue filling= good, blue box with red filoing= bad
and never stop pushing forward if you have three people on your team that are decimating the other team you couldve cloned them but you gave up and started sniping and shooting eachother.
All I have to say is Heimdallr69 and I joined the last 4 minutes of the game after red line. We tried to bait you back to C from the line by hacking both the clone and C at the same time.
I just wish we had been in game from start and not the end of the match. Because it woulda been a good match
EDIT we tried to give you a good match at the end, but our whole team was sniping!!! We'd take C fully, they'd respawn as snipers! lol |
Rhuvian Marccus
Deep Space Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:33:00 -
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3 bird wrote:newberry myself and while I have had matches with some of the same frustrations, i cant help but feel that coming to the forums to vent isn't the best way to improve the situation, it just opens up a divide between the new players and those of the closed beta.
Instead of venting your frustration might it not be better to try and take just one of these newberries under your wing for the night, especially if they have a mic. and educate them in the finer points of combat.
I realise that its a lot to ask as this is your rl downtime and having to spend your time training a new player isn't the hight of fun but if you can help just 1 newberry, welcome him into the community and get him interested enough in the game to do his own research, and he does the same to another newberrie and so on, wouldn't that be the best gaming community ever?
And it all comes down to the choice we make here and now, do you moan and rant and vent, or do we welcome, educate and train. Right now we are setting the tone of the community for years to come, and that's why I'm asking you to be the very best people you can be.
So go on, take a newberry under your wing, share you knowledge and train them. Be the very best this community has to offer.
+10
Good on you, 3 bird. Seriously. |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:36:00 -
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crazy space 2100046106 wrote:94 kills... wait how many clones are there in skirmish?
Skirmish has 150 clones per side
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Clyven Krypt
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:49:00 -
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Tregar Kerrigan wrote:crazy space 2100046106 wrote:94 kills... wait how many clones are there in skirmish?
Skirmish has 150 clones per side
I was wondering the same thing. Cheers. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:53:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:how is it that a team can redline our team when our team had between three people 94 kills on 30 deaths? when everyone but those in my squad decided to stop pushing and play like newberries. here are some examples. "allright guys im unhacking alpha cover me." (gets to last bar and a reddot strolls in right through the three newberries and kills the un-hacker) "allright guys good job taking charlie just kill that one reddot and we can push them back to bravo" (newberries walk past reddot and start hacking a turret with no armor left) " i just cleared out alpha i need someone to cover me while i hack" (newberries sit there while 5 reddot's spawn in and kill the hacker, and then proceed to get killed by the reddots as they didnt bother to start shooting until they were being fired upon."
the top three players for the losing side went 40-12 striosal 36-10 me 18-8 vd7
plus the winning side lost 2 tanks 1 of which was a gunloggi and 9 lavs to this team of three none of the team of 3 were using anything higher than an adv ar and were using either std or militia gear for everything else.
the rest of the losing side got 30 kills total and around 110 deaths
the match was amazing and we had a blast because of the challenge YOUR NAME HERE's LR caused some annoyance during that match i believe but nothing we couldn't handle.
so as a message to all newberries red=bad, letter blinking= hack, red box with blue filling= good, blue box with red filoing= bad
and never stop pushing forward if you have three people on your team that are decimating the other team you couldve cloned them but you gave up and started sniping and shooting eachother.
happens all the time now. once i notice my squads the only one that's doing work, i go "EH" and switch to my militia suits. not worth the isk dying for a crap team |
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