PROBLEMS WITH CURRENT LASER STATS: currently the laser rifle can insta-melt people at medium-long range after its charged up a bit. This makes it difficult for our militia grade noobs to survive if they weren't paying attention or were in the middle of an open field, thus making them cry "OP"

Heat build-up not a problem? What? Having an overheat function you pretty much never have to worry about even if you have no skills, and especially when you do have skills (when they're fixed) is good how?

Range nerf no.

ROF nerf no.

Higher initial damage and lower max damage yes.

Then it should of course overheat way faster.

My problem with the LR right now is that it doesn't do what it says. Lasers are supposed to be extremely effective against shields and not that effective vs armor. So then why the hell does a LR kill a Heavy in a matter of seconds? It's not a combo weapon - so what's the deal?

My problem with the LR right now is that it doesn't do what it says. Lasers are supposed to be extremely effective against shields and not that effective vs armor. So then why the hell does a LR kill a Heavy in a matter of seconds? It's not a combo weapon - so what's the deal?

Let me see, something like 80% of the players run AR.

Until I see something like 50% of players using a LR instead, I say no nerf.

In fact, no nerfs to anything please, just add more content and fix bugs. Balance later.

PROBLEMS WITH CURRENT LASER STATS:
currently the laser rifle can insta-melt people at medium-long range after its charged up a bit. This makes it difficult for our militia grade noobs to survive if they weren't paying attention or were in the middle of an open field, thus making them cry "OP" The reason the laser rifle is so easy to use is because of how it has zero recoil, coupled with a quick damage build up. One needs only to swipe the laser two or three times to kill one person because after three seconds the of damage stacking the basic laser rifle is doing over 45 damage per shot.

SOLUTION TO THE CURRENT PROBLEM:
The following will provide a solution to the current problem that i think would make it more fair to others while still making it possible to get kills with the laser rifle.

Damage Nurf: -5 = 10 damage for stand/adv lvl gun, 15 damage for proto lvl gun.
Damage cap: A cap for the damage stacking set at 35-40 for the standard/adv guns, and 50 for the proto gun.
Range nurf: nerf the range by 10% so as to make only people with sharpshooter proficiency seem like they have a sniper rifle.
A rate of fire nurf: This is most important by FAR, the reason only one or two charged laser swipes can kill someone is because in the time it takes that once swipe to pass over a body, it can land two to four 60 damage "shots". The RoF nurf should bring it down to something in between the assault rifle, and breach rifle RoF.

problem fixed:

CONCLUSION:
with those nurfs in place, it would basically put the laser rifle on par with assault rifles damage wise. The only difference between the two would be that the laser rifle works efficiently long range, where as the assault works better mid-range.
The reason why those nurfs are acceptable is because it would "balance" the gun rather then "break" it. Heat build up and clip size are not the problem here. The problem is DPS, and three of the four things listed above effect the guns dps by A LOT. Now more importantly then that, i could actually see myself still using the laser rifle if these nurfs were applied, would it be as good? no, but would it be fair? IMO yes, it would essentially do the same DPS an assault rifle does only at its optimal range, and if anyone wants to nurf it further then i would recommend nurfing the assault rifles again too, but thats just my opinion.

this is the worst way to tell if something is OP ever, even if a weapon is OP people gravitate to what is standard, which in most games is assault rifles.
the average person in any shooter is an assault rifle guy or a sniper.

Actually, this is the only way to tell if a weapon or item is being over or under utilized, which of course, is the only reason the devs should do a balance pass on that weapon or item.

Your subjective sentiments about a weapon are inconsequential, as are mine.

What about u keep everything as is, and change one aspect to make it more of a skill weapon...

Require u to stay on target to increase damage. This will kill the prefire heat up that many do, and make people track targets instead of using it like a lightsaber.

And then no one will ever die to a LR if they jump...


The LR doesn't need much or any change. Being able to beat out an AR at range doesn't make something OP.

The problem is stacking damage mods, not the guns themselves. once ccp fixes that we'll actually be able to tell what we are dealing with as far as what needs to be balanced.