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Posted - 2013.01.27 00:29:00 -
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heres some stuff you need to know, in the E3 beta the swarm launcher was able to be shot at infrantry but due to its fire pattern was useless at close range (long range it worked against infrantry on accurecy subject), after a few build it was made lock on only, non lock on only, and back to what we ahve now (lock on only) so we don`t have games like star hawk or halo where you jump up and shoot a RPG for instante kills, the FG as a heavy weapon needs to be better then the light weight Swarm luancher so it works efficivly against infrantry aswell (as does the HMG to dropships sheilds and LAVS). Now heres the other half of the information:
https://dust514.com/media/wallpapers/testers-tournament-unlock-5-5/
https://dust514.com/media/videos/developer-diary-weapons-in-dust-514/ you can skip to 3:35.
So what about the stats for the gallante Plasma/rocket luancher? well since its dumb fired it will need to be a meduim between the swarm laucnher and the forge gun but is capibul of being on a scout suit and an assualt suit. Can it be fixed like the swarm luancher? no it must stay as a dumb fire since thats its intentions and opther wise be a swarm launcher, it must be usfull against vehicle so it need an inpact but splash damage can be low (still useless since no one has that bad of aim vs infrantry) so the only think that comes to mind is have it not do damage inless activated like an AV grenade...will that happen? I highly doubt it. |
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Sobriety Denied wrote:so basically a forge gun for non heavies
oooo, you prove a good point sir, they also get to benifet from the heavys weakness. |
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Jotun Hiem wrote:You don't even know what the damn thing does yet.
Hold your horses.
they explained. Also, having helped fix the swarms so we don`t have idiots jumping around with them like every other game and seeing they are releasing this is a slap to the face, I bet you will be calling it out when it is released.
also if you have used it you are mistaken with the FG, MD.
I`m fine with it as long as its not the newb tube of DUST514. Thats why I mentioned what I did in the OP (Original Post, OP term #2...not term #1). |
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Posted - 2013.01.27 05:48:00 -
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"we`ve got the Gallante Plasma luancher, wich is a new dumb fire AV weapon umm which I think the players are really really going to like and last of cuarse..." (he then goes onto the scrambler AR.
nothing mentioned on heavy or assist, except "dumb fired" so its definitly not lock on, it has a scope that you pear into so its doubtfull a heavy.
sorry guys but I rather over react (or just react, depending on opinion) and not need to rather then not react and have needed, Star Hawk beta testers remember the cluster bombs? It was re acted upon but not till after game was a change made, after how long did it take to make it "exceptible"?
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Posted - 2013.01.27 05:57:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Three Double-A Batteries wrote:I believe the usual course of action is to start a poll. uh, no. The usual course of action is to nerf it.
lol, but i don`t think we should do either.
CCP knows the stats and mechanics of it, we are (or some of us are) are just saying what NOT to do and if CCP notices and understands why then they will do a fix, if what I`m saying it shouldn`t be capible of doing is wrong then no issue! i`m just trying to make sure it doesn`t go down as halo jumping noob tube. |
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Posted - 2013.01.27 06:00:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:You've got nothing to react to.
You have an AV weapon that doesn't lock on. Woop-de-kitten-do.
And why couldn't a heavy raise the launcher to his eye? It's shoulder mounted, all he's gotta do it tilt his head.
no reason, just to tired to think, sorry.
But if CCP sees this and understands they ahve time to fix, if I`m wrong then its where i want it (and I expect others) to be. |
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Posted - 2013.01.27 06:12:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:You've got nothing to react to.
You have an AV weapon that doesn't lock on. Woop-de-kitten-do.
And why couldn't a heavy raise the launcher to his eye? It's shoulder mounted, all he's gotta do it tilt his head. no reason, just to tired to think, sorry. But if CCP sees this and understands they ahve time to fix, if I`m wrong then its where i want it (and I expect others) to be. CCP can't fix it. There is nothing to fix.Wait until you can see what a weapon does before you complain about it. Otherwise you're just soothsaying.
but i`m not complaining what it does, i`m stating what it shouldn`t do so CCP doesn`t have to go back and fix it later, so we don`t have a spam of OP threads etc, whats the worse of me saying this? CCP sees this as understadible advice or they think to themselves it actully does this and that so its not a problem. |
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Posted - 2013.04.14 00:28:00 -
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Volgair wrote:All I think of with the Flaylock Pistol is a Line of site micro rocket that perform's the same task as the MD at shorter ranges, for lower damage. So calm down, let us see what it does first.
Its find to speculate, the fact we don`t know doesn`t mean its right so if we speculate wrong and mention its speculation (I can fix the title if you think its neccisarry) so if we speculate right CCP can see it and fix it, if its not right they can move on, theres nothing wrong with doing it aslong as you do it legitly. |
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Posted - 2013.04.14 00:36:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Charge + Small Radius (Except for Assault Variants) + Low Radius Damage = Perfectly balanced infantry weapon (I think  )
as an AV weapon a swarmer can get an instant kill on an infrantry (proven by that poor logi bro who took a swarm for my tank, RIPeices), heavys will die instanty and anything to slow would also die from it, COD/HALO/ SH jump and shoot at the eneamys feet or chest and you got easy kills, many games flop on this and I`m just trying to give tips to make sure DUST514 won`t have a bad build for it. |
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Posted - 2013.04.14 01:16:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The only thing we've really seen of them is use in the background of a video- we know they fire on a low arc, so it's possible they're like a beefy version of the breach mass driver. I would actually hope so, a AV shield effective weapon needs a downside of using to prevent using it for non-av purpose to be effective so its in line with other AV weapons.
yea sure if its a heavy varient since they should have that as a side porpuse but as a light? hay no, might aswell puch the MD aside and use the Gallante rocket, not to much diffrence to ammo anyways. |
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